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The social atom game (hanl3ab)

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message 1: by Ahmed (last edited Jan 17, 2011 04:12AM) (new)

Ahmed (ammhelal) Currently I'm reading the social atom book, and I want to play a game :D

Each player will allowed to choose a number from 0 to 100, the player who will choose a number equal to 2/3 from the average number that all users chosen will win.

Example:
3 players
the first choose 16
the second choose 24
the third choose 10

the average is 50/3 = 16
the winner is (16 * 2)/3 = 10
the third win.

Please, send me your choices in a private message not on the group coz it is supposed that no one should know other players answers.

:D


message 2: by Ahmed (new)

Ahmed (ammhelal) Guys I only received 2 responses :(
Anyway, the solution would be that all players need to choose 0 so the average would be 0 and all the players win :)

Mark used this experiment (and others)to indicate two things:
First, we don't normally use logical thinking to solve problems. Human brain is better in identifying patterns and response to external actions than using logical thinking.

Second, even if you use logical thinking if only one player doesn't use it you will loose, so we all are like atoms we affect the community but we still affected by other atoms and each atom has its own characteristics.

Interesting ideas.


message 3: by Ghada (new)

Ghada Yusuf (ghadayusuf) | 36 comments interisting.. have you any idea about the mathematical thinking, i'v come to hear about it latley, and I've made a few searches on the net without much luck.


message 4: by Ahmed (new)

Ahmed (ammhelal) You mean logical thinking. Actually, I don't know if there is good resources about this topic. I use this type of thinking as a lifestyle as I'm a communication Engineer and I have taken lots of mathematics courses, probability, programming and etc.. so It seems that these skills developed over time.

For ex:
to solve the above problem you just need a simple mathematics facts that summation of zero's will give zero and dividing zero with any number will give zero so the average will be zero that it.


message 5: by Ghada (new)

Ghada Yusuf (ghadayusuf) | 36 comments Mash-Allah :) I belived i scored the bigest failuier in mathiematics. But my mentor who is teaching us know the mathiematicall thinking skills - I'm not sure if it's should be called logical or mathimatical - she is asuring that we can grasp that way of thinking without learning matimatics.

Thank you for the information in your replay i learnt from it. And don't be sad for the lack of responds most people run the other way when number is mintioned.


message 6: by Ahmed (new)

Ahmed (ammhelal) Many thanks Ghada for your lovely post. ISA if I found good resources about this topic I will give you feed-back.


message 7: by Ghada (new)

Ghada Yusuf (ghadayusuf) | 36 comments Thank You Ahmed, I'll really appreciated it if you did.


message 8: by نشوى (new)

نشوى (engnashwa) | 118 comments Mod
we all are like atoms we affect the community but we still affected by other atoms and each atom has its own characteristics.
ودى حاجة فى منتهى الروعة واهلتنا اننا نكتشف حاجات كتير
لولا ان كل ذرة بتتأثر بالذرات التانية مكنش بقى عندنا كهرباء وكمان المبدأ اللى بيقوم عليه اشباه الموصلات اللى هو عماد حياتنا الى الآن الى ان يطوروا البيوتكنولوجى يقوم على نفس المبدأ هو تأثر كل ذرة بالذرات المحيطة بها


message 9: by Ahmed (new)

Ahmed (ammhelal) الكتاب شديد لازم تقريه خصوصا انك مهندسة فهيعجبك قوى. فى نسخة مترجمة تبع مكتبة الاسرة وان كنت بنصح بالنسخة الاصلية لان فى معادلات ومصطلحات ترجمتها بالعربى رخمة قوى.


message 10: by نشوى (new)

نشوى (engnashwa) | 118 comments Mod
لو عندك لينك للكتاب بى دى اف يا ريت


message 11: by Ahmed (new)

Ahmed (ammhelal) http://research.microsoft.com/apps/vi...

ديه المحاضرة بتاعت الكتاب مشروح فيها معظم الافكار والتجارب برسومات توضيحية ومعادلات مش موجوده حتى فى الكتاب. اضربى دى واقرى النسخة بتاعت مكتبة الاسرة وادعيلى :)


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