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message 1: by Girl4beluga (new)

Girl4beluga | 3193 comments I honestly don't see anything wrong with any of it


message 2: by Courtney (new)

Courtney | 99 comments I don't like porn because it dehumanizes women ( just my personal opinion) everything else is ok


message 3: by Girl4beluga (new)

Girl4beluga | 3193 comments why does it dehumanize us????


message 4: by Courtney (new)

Courtney | 99 comments It just makes me uncomfortable, I don't think it is wrong as long as no one is forced into the production of it


message 5: by Rayna, Learn to ignore those who dont matter. (new)

Rayna | 212 comments Mod
So...we're debating whether these things are bad or something?


message 6: by Poindextεrr., If you aren't outraged, you aren't paying attention!!! (last edited Sep 11, 2010 01:13PM) (new)

Poindextεrr. (carpe_diem) | 479 comments Mod
♫Rayna wrote: "So...we're debating whether these things are bad or something?"

I guess.

Sex toys aren't for me, but I don't think they are necessarily wrong. Masturbation is also not for me (personally, I think it's gross) and I think it is a sin. As far as porn goes, I don't really understand how someone could get off watching other people and I think it's the nastier out of the three things I just listed and I couldn't date anybody that was into it.


message 7: by Courtney (new)

Courtney | 99 comments ^How is touching youself a sin?


message 8: by Mitch (new)

Mitch (mitchperson) | 86 comments Ew, why is there a topic for this?


message 9: by Poindextεrr., If you aren't outraged, you aren't paying attention!!! (new)

Poindextεrr. (carpe_diem) | 479 comments Mod
Mitch wrote: "Ew, why is there a topic for this?"

Haha hmm IDK.

@Courtney: I'll respond later on tonight but I don't want my dad to see that I'm on this topic and don't have time to give you the lengthy answer I'd like to....


Rachel (aka. Kaiserin Sisi) (looney-lovegood) | 963 comments Mitch wrote: "Ew, why is there a topic for this?"

Because it's something people disagree on, and therefore something that we can have a debate/discussion on. :)


message 11: by Mitch (new)

Mitch (mitchperson) | 86 comments Well, pre-marital sex is wrong, and I don't think anything to get a man sexually active before marriage is right either, so it's wrong.


Rachel (aka. Kaiserin Sisi) (looney-lovegood) | 963 comments What do you consider sexually active?


message 13: by Mitch (new)

Mitch (mitchperson) | 86 comments Ugh, I probably shouldn't have gotten into this debate, this is disgusting.

I suppose if you're feeling sexually excited or "horny" as some people call it, then that's sexually active.


Rachel (aka. Kaiserin Sisi) (looney-lovegood) | 963 comments Well, by that definition, puberty is wrong. ;)


message 15: by Mitch (new)

Mitch (mitchperson) | 86 comments I'm going through puberty, and I don't get a single sexual thought about girls. I don't see why everyone says that you do.


Rachel (aka. Kaiserin Sisi) (looney-lovegood) | 963 comments It sometimes comes later. I didn't start finding guys attractive until I was almost 17.


message 17: by Mitch (new)

Mitch (mitchperson) | 86 comments I find girls attractive, but I don't get sexual thoughts about them....


Rachel (aka. Kaiserin Sisi) (looney-lovegood) | 963 comments Everyone's different, I suppose. Many people do begin to get sexual feelings once they're into puberty without doing anything to bring them about, though.


message 19: by Courtney (new)

Courtney | 99 comments Mitch, I really don't have sexual thought about guys without think about it, but just because you have a natural feeling that you can't control does not mean you're sinning


Rachel (aka. Kaiserin Sisi) (looney-lovegood) | 963 comments I morally disagree with pornography, but I don't believe that it should be illegal, so long as it is performed by consenting adults.

I see nothing wrong with sex toy and masturbation, though.


message 21: by Rayna, Learn to ignore those who dont matter. (new)

Rayna | 212 comments Mod
Hmm....honestly I see nothing wrong with these things.
Well, expect porn because I hate the fact that men and women sell themselves out for that. They could have done so much better for themselves...


message 22: by Courtney (new)

Courtney | 99 comments I agree, porn is just prostitution in front of a camera. I would never date anyone who watched it. What's sad is that Hollywood is buying into it, I have nothing against sex in films as long as it helps the story. However I'm seeing more and more pointless sex in movies


message 23: by Girl4beluga (new)

Girl4beluga | 3193 comments Mitch wrote: "I find girls attractive, but I don't get sexual thoughts about them...."

that's cause you ten


message 24: by Emily (new)

Emily | 1422 comments Mitch wrote: "Well, pre-marital sex is wrong, and I don't think anything to get a man sexually active before marriage is right either, so it's wrong."

Q: Why is it wrong?
A: God said so.


message 25: by Mitch (new)

Mitch (mitchperson) | 86 comments Exactly.


message 26: by Girl4beluga (new)

Girl4beluga | 3193 comments wow..I am sorry Mitch but if no one was sexually active (by your definitions) actually it is impossible......never to have an "in-pure" thought


message 27: by Girl4beluga (new)

Girl4beluga | 3193 comments Mitch wrote: "Exactly."

WOW...I am sorry...but i think you need to grow up a bit for this discussion. So if a woman is raped she has committed a sin????


Rachel (aka. Kaiserin Sisi) (looney-lovegood) | 963 comments Girl4beluga wrote: "Mitch wrote: "Exactly."

WOW...I am sorry...but i think you need to grow up a bit for this discussion. So if a woman is raped she has committed a sin????"


I believe that he assumed "pre-marital sex" has an implied "consensual" in there.


message 29: by Mitch (new)

Mitch (mitchperson) | 86 comments Girl4beluga wrote: "Mitch wrote: "Exactly."

WOW...I am sorry...but i think you need to grow up a bit for this discussion. So if a woman is raped she has committed a sin????"


Yes, she has.


Rachel (aka. Kaiserin Sisi) (looney-lovegood) | 963 comments Mitch wrote: "Girl4beluga wrote: "Mitch wrote: "Exactly."

WOW...I am sorry...but i think you need to grow up a bit for this discussion. So if a woman is raped she has committed a sin????"

Yes, she has."


Oh wow...wasn't expecting that.


message 31: by Emily (new)

Emily | 1422 comments Mitch wrote: "Girl4beluga wrote: "Mitch wrote: "Exactly."

WOW...I am sorry...but i think you need to grow up a bit for this discussion. So if a woman is raped she has committed a sin????"

Yes, she has."


You have to be fricking kidding me.


message 32: by Mitch (new)

Mitch (mitchperson) | 86 comments Why would I be?


message 33: by Emily (new)

Emily | 1422 comments I don't know, I guess I just had some dry hope that you had a little bit of sense.


Rachel (aka. Kaiserin Sisi) (looney-lovegood) | 963 comments Mitch wrote: "Girl4beluga wrote: "Mitch wrote: "Exactly."

WOW...I am sorry...but i think you need to grow up a bit for this discussion. So if a woman is raped she has committed a sin????"

Yes, she has."


Just saying: there are very few ways to get me upset, and you just found one of them.

Sin is something that you consciously do, and implies fault. BEING RAPED IS NOT A SIN! IT IS A BRUTAL ATTACK THAT IS IN NO WAY THE VICTIM'S FAULT! Part of what makes rape so awful is the belief that intercourse outside of marriage is sinful and dirty. It is intended to make the woman feel as if she has sinned, when she had so say whatsoever in what happened to her!

Now please, explain to me how raped woman has sinned by being brutally attacked.


Rachel (aka. Kaiserin Sisi) (looney-lovegood) | 963 comments Mitch wrote: "Why would I be?"

Because saying that being raped is a sin is sick.


message 36: by Mitch (new)

Mitch (mitchperson) | 86 comments You have no choice whatsoever in original sin, and that's still there. And, like original sin, there are ways of getting rid of that sin. Confession is one of them.


Rachel (aka. Kaiserin Sisi) (looney-lovegood) | 963 comments Mitch wrote: "You have no choice whatsoever in original sin, and that's still there. And, like original sin, there are ways of getting rid of that sin. Confession is one of them."

Original sin is human nature. Our darker, selfish, violent, aggressive instincts.


message 38: by Emily (new)

Emily | 1422 comments Lindsay wrote: "You son of a bitch, how the fuck could you think that!? You are a fucking offense to women EVERYWHERE, and I think I'm going to have to beat the shit out of you now..."

GIVE HIM AN ATOMIC WEDGIE!


message 39: by Emily (new)

Emily | 1422 comments Lindsay wrote: "I can't, wedgies are illegal in my house, but I can always do more subtle things..."

Kick him where it really hurts?


message 40: by Emily (new)

Emily | 1422 comments So, no bruises or blood.


message 41: by Emily (new)

Emily | 1422 comments Ah, okay.


message 42: by Girl4beluga (new)

Girl4beluga | 3193 comments Wow Lindsay...please tell me your mom doesn't support this type of Christianity....and Rachel....go to see you be hit on your hot button. :-)


message 43: by Girl4beluga (new)

Girl4beluga | 3193 comments well YAY!!! I just can't understand where he got those ideas from


message 44: by Girl4beluga (new)

Girl4beluga | 3193 comments O WOW SORRY!!!! got kicked out of one of those


message 45: by Courtney (new)

Courtney | 99 comments So Mitch if a woman raped you, you would be sinning?


message 46: by Rayna, Learn to ignore those who dont matter. (new)

Rayna | 212 comments Mod
Mitch wrote: "Girl4beluga wrote: "Mitch wrote: "Exactly."

WOW...I am sorry...but i think you need to grow up a bit for this discussion. So if a woman is raped she has committed a sin????"

Yes, she has."


What the heck?!


message 47: by Girl4beluga (new)

Girl4beluga | 3193 comments I KNOW


message 48: by Rayna, Learn to ignore those who dont matter. (new)

Rayna | 212 comments Mod
*shakes head* Never thought that a woman would be sinning by getting attacked. Thats new.


Rachel (aka. Kaiserin Sisi) (looney-lovegood) | 963 comments Courtney wrote: "So Mitch if a woman raped you, you would be sinning?"

Or if a man did?


Rachel (aka. Kaiserin Sisi) (looney-lovegood) | 963 comments ♫Rayna wrote: "Mitch wrote: "Girl4beluga wrote: "Mitch wrote: "Exactly."

WOW...I am sorry...but i think you need to grow up a bit for this discussion. So if a woman is raped she has committed a sin????"

Yes..."


Exactly.


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