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message 1: by valee (new)

valee Beautiful, clever, rich - and single - Emma Woodhouse is perfectly content with her life and sees no need for either love or marriage. Nothing, however, delights her more than interfering in the romantic lives of others. But when she ignores the warnings of her good friend Mr. Knightley and attempts to arrange a suitable match for her protégée Harriet Smith, her carefully laid plans soon unravel and have consequences that she never expected. With its imperfect but charming heroine and its witty and subtle exploration of relationships, Emma is often seen as Jane Austen's most flawless work.


What were your thoughts about this one? **Remember: We are only talking about the book.**


message 2: by Katherine (new)

Katherine I know Emma isn't a favorite of many people, a spoiled rich girl. But I love her, she is bored and needs something to fill her time and what better activity than match make. She has a good heart and loves her family dearly. She was kind of blind but that is what makes the story intersting.


message 3: by Sophie, Your Lovely Moderator (new)

Sophie | 2624 comments Mod
I agree Katherine. I love Emma for all the reasons you have said. I love the humour and Knightley <3 the banter between them is great and love their whole relationship!
Love the different pairing which are Suspected by people throughout the novel involving Emma, Knightley, Harriet, Jane, Churchill and Elton !! ;D


message 4: by Anna (new)

Anna (SylviaGrant) | 139 comments I really do love the love matches she does!! it never fails to make me giggle!!


message 5: by Anne (new)

Anne (cinderella16) | 115 comments Yeah. Although if Mr. Knightley hadn't been around to scold her every now and then, she wouldn't have been very likeable. Still, this is one of my faves. Did anybody think that Mr. Knightley wasn't in the book often enough? To me, it seemed like he wasn't around too much. Maybe I need to re-read it.


message 6: by Sophie, Your Lovely Moderator (new)

Sophie | 2624 comments Mod
I do know what you mean. He is around more in the book than in the films but yes. I think he should be around more...


message 7: by Anna (new)

Anna (SylviaGrant) | 139 comments Mr. Tilney is so much more real than Mr. Knightley to me!!


message 8: by Sophie, Your Lovely Moderator (new)

Sophie | 2624 comments Mod
I think that is debatable. Both show jealousy and other faults. But i do see your point. :)


message 9: by Sophie, Your Lovely Moderator (new)

Sophie | 2624 comments Mod
Steph wrote: "I love the book where you learn so much more about the Knightly family. I love the ending where Mr. Knightly tells Emma more of how his love for her grew from when she was young and yet he didn't s..."

couldn't have put it better myself!
it is always great to read the novels as well, as they are always more detailed!


message 10: by Sarah (new)

Sarah Louise Smith (sarahlouisesmith) Well said Steph :)


message 11: by Marren (new)

Marren | 764 comments Does anybody find it disturbing that Mr. Knightley loved Emma when she was 13 and he 24?

I was annoyed with the heroine throughout the book. My annoyance soften a bit when she suddenly loved Mr. Knightley and her views on Harriet and Robert changed. I am wondering if the novel should have been developed around Frank and Jane. However, can I be indiscreet to Austen's pen to suggest such?

Emma is my least favoured Austen novel. I do not take kindly to folks meddling in other folks heart. Emma almost destroyed Harriet and I was not satisfied that she (Emma) ways changed at the end of the novel.


message 12: by Sophie, Your Lovely Moderator (new)

Sophie | 2624 comments Mod
Ems character is what annoys many people and put her low on the list for many. For me, I take it on the chin and find her very fun! Her conversations with Knightley and many other characters are fun to read!

As for her relationship with Knightley. I used to think... Weird. But not now. It was more normal. (Marianne and Brandon similar age gap) also, I think when he says he loved her since she was a little girl that was more brotherly type love, and that it didn't turn to real love until Emma was grown up. So, it doesn't bother me.


message 13: by Marren (new)

Marren | 764 comments ok


message 14: by Sarah (new)

Sarah Louise Smith (sarahlouisesmith) Marren wrote: "Does anybody find it disturbing that Mr. Knightley loved Emma when she was 13 and he 24?


I agree with Soph about the brotherly love, but also remember that girls became women at a younger age back then... Girls were often married at 15 or 16, so 13 isn't as young as it is now. I'd find it strange if a 24 year old fell in love with a 16 or 17 year old personally, let alone 13 - but things were different then, it was more acceptable to marry young, etc.


message 15: by Carolyn (new)

Carolyn (caroheartsbooks) | 272 comments i finished it couple days ago and my reaction: KNIGHTLEY AND EMMA?????WHAT??????


message 16: by Sophie, Your Lovely Moderator (new)

Sophie | 2624 comments Mod
What? !! You didn't like?


message 17: by Carolyn (new)

Carolyn (caroheartsbooks) | 272 comments nah i was in shock but i guess it was sweet


message 18: by Sophie, Your Lovely Moderator (new)

Sophie | 2624 comments Mod
Really? You didn't see it coming? Did it improve in your opinion as you went? Did you suspect the Jane/Frank thing?


message 19: by Carolyn (new)

Carolyn (caroheartsbooks) | 272 comments no not really i was a bit confused approaching that too many characters and who likes who but i think the jane frank was deserved i wasnt too upset but the whole harriet thing and their ruined relationship is sad


message 20: by Sophie, Your Lovely Moderator (new)

Sophie | 2624 comments Mod
Yes it is but at least Harriet and Martin got married in the end :)


message 21: by Carolyn (new)

Carolyn (caroheartsbooks) | 272 comments true that although i found emma rather foolish


message 22: by Carolyn (new)

Carolyn (caroheartsbooks) | 272 comments true that although i found emma rather foolish


message 23: by Sophie, Your Lovely Moderator (new)

Sophie | 2624 comments Mod
She is yes! Spoilt! But she has matured through the novel! :)


message 24: by Carolyn (new)

Carolyn (caroheartsbooks) | 272 comments yes thats good character developement


message 25: by Sophie, Your Lovely Moderator (new)

Sophie | 2624 comments Mod
:)


message 26: by Sophie, Your Lovely Moderator (new)

Sophie | 2624 comments Mod
Northanger Abbey I reckon next for you :)


message 27: by Carolyn (new)

Carolyn (caroheartsbooks) | 272 comments lena said sense and sensibility :)


message 28: by Sophie, Your Lovely Moderator (new)

Sophie | 2624 comments Mod
One of those!! :)


message 29: by Rebecca (new)

Rebecca May | 561 comments My impressions about this book were that is was very slow and even a little boring in the first two thirds.

Emma was a spoiled brat, and I couldn't really identify with her much - I just wanted to slap her most of the time. But I do like to think is was love for Knightley that changed her, rather than just Knightley himself, if anyone understands what I mean by that.

Anyway, the last third was brilliant. After being completely OK with Brandon and Marianne, I could hardly complain about Knightley and Emma. I quite liked the match actually.


message 30: by Marren (last edited Mar 06, 2013 06:39PM) (new)

Marren | 764 comments Hey Becca, long time, no chat :D.

I see my feelings for Emma is not that much different from yours.


message 31: by Rebecca (new)

Rebecca May | 561 comments Hi Marren! Yeah, I've been quite absent for a while, I've been catching up on the Austen books I hadn't read - now all I have left is two thirds of Mansfield Park. :)

:D I'm glad you agree with me! Though not about the film, from what I saw on the other thread... :)


message 32: by Marren (new)

Marren | 764 comments Haha, that happens :)


message 33: by Sophie, Your Lovely Moderator (new)

Sophie | 2624 comments Mod
It is a slower beginning I agree but I think I find Emma funny and she doesn't annoy me loads, she does annoy me at times though. The story is clever I think.


message 34: by Rebecca (new)

Rebecca May | 561 comments It is clever - but still annoying! :D


message 35: by Louise Sparrow (new)

Louise Sparrow (louisex) | 262 comments I've always liked Emma and never found it slow.

I did find the first half of Persuasion a little slow the first time I read it but as I've got older it doesn't seem so bad.


message 36: by Sophie, Your Lovely Moderator (new)

Sophie | 2624 comments Mod
I agree about persuasion. And I think I enjoyed the second reading of Emma more because I was watching out for clues Etc and had got better with the language! :)


message 37: by Carolyn (new)

Carolyn (caroheartsbooks) | 272 comments i agree marren it was different from the others or maybe bc i read it in paperback not ebook lol


message 38: by Marren (new)

Marren | 764 comments Oh, it is not the paperback or ebook, me dear :P


message 39: by Carolyn (new)

Carolyn (caroheartsbooks) | 272 comments haha :)


message 40: by Marte (new)

Marte (lavageit) | 16 comments First, excuse my spamming! I'm bored.

Emma is my least favourite of Austen's. I never liked it, and found it if not boring, slow and uninteresting.

It just wasn't my cup of tea :)


message 41: by Marte (new)

Marte (lavageit) | 16 comments First, excuse my spamming! I'm bored.

Emma is my least favourite of Austen's. I never liked it, and found it if not boring, slow and uninteresting.

It just wasn't my cup of tea :)


message 42: by Sophie, Your Lovely Moderator (new)

Sophie | 2624 comments Mod
I understand dislike of Emma more - although I love her!


message 43: by Caity (new)

Caity | 26 comments Just finished!!!!! My thoughts here: http://readingwithalice.blogspot.com/...


message 44: by Anne (new)

Anne | 70 comments Just finished too, and I absolutely loved it!! My favourite Austen so far!! :D


message 45: by Sophie, Your Lovely Moderator (new)

Sophie | 2624 comments Mod
Brilliant review Alice - see my comment on the post. :)

I am so glad you both enjoyed it! I knew that you would love it!

Your favourite so far Anne?! Wow!! Glad you read it eventually then?!


message 46: by Anne (new)

Anne | 70 comments Oh yes, I am so glad I finally read it! I had a feeling it would become my favourite, because I loved the movies so much! I only have Northanger Abbey left to read...we shall see if it will surpass it, but I don't think so!


message 47: by Sophie, Your Lovely Moderator (new)

Sophie | 2624 comments Mod
I doubt it will surpass but it's a great one! It is very funny to read Jane Austen making fun of the gothic style!


Andrea AKA Catsos Person (catsosperson) | 235 comments I haven't read Northanger either. I am looking forward to it.


message 49: by Sophie, Your Lovely Moderator (new)

Sophie | 2624 comments Mod
Well we have that and Mansfield Park left for group reads :)


Andrea AKA Catsos Person (catsosperson) | 235 comments I haven't read Mansfield park either.


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