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message 1: by RandomAnthony (new)

RandomAnthony | 14537 comments Ok, yesterday I got my hair (plural) cut, and I swear, every time I get my hair cut I face the dreaded question...

"So what do you want to do with your hair today?"

How do you answer that question?


message 2: by Félix (new)

Félix (habitseven) I strive to maintain long-term relationships with my hair cutters. I make it clear up front that what I want is to be able to sit down and chat about lots of things while he/she goes about the business of cutting my hair. Apparently my hair is difficult to cut -- so when I find a good one I stick with that person, at least until I move to another city.

The first few cuts in a new city are stressful. It usually takes three to four tries before getting a keeper.


message 3: by Heather (last edited Feb 25, 2010 07:03AM) (new)

Heather (heatherjoy) | 384 comments Well, a lot of pointing should take place when asked this question. I cut my own hair because no one cuts it right anyway. If you like it shorter on the sides and longer on the top, say that. If you don't want your hair to be cut shorter than your eyebrows, say that, so on and so forth. If you have a cowlick, warn them. And always ask for a dry cut. Wetting the hair makes it appear longer and can cost you some precious hair.


message 4: by Kevin (new)

Kevin  (ksprink) | 11469 comments i just say "afeitado por favor"


message 5: by Kevin (new)

Kevin  (ksprink) | 11469 comments never just let hair people have their way with your hair. trust me, they have been to the shows, seminars and classes and are waiting (not always so patiently)to try something funky. you have a chance it will turn out good but are you willing to take that chance when you have at least an equal (or better) chance that it will be a "holy snikey's!!" moment when you see the finished deal.

when i had hair and went to get it cut i went to a friend who ignored my request for basically the same cut except shorter and went full tilt salon on me and i came out looking like lyle lovett


message 6: by Sally, la reina (new)

Sally (mrsnolte) | 17365 comments Mod
This is an interesting discussion.


message 7: by RandomAnthony (last edited Feb 25, 2010 07:47AM) (new)

RandomAnthony | 14537 comments I was curious as to your thoughts with your haircutting expertise, Ms. Sally. Were you ever frustrated with people's inability to articulate what they wanted? What did you ask if they weren't sure?


message 8: by Sally, la reina (new)

Sally (mrsnolte) | 17365 comments Mod
Yes. People are amazingly incoherent in that discussion. You have to listen for keywords and do the best you can with what they have after that. If they weren't sure I would usually test the waters to see how much they trusted me, and that would define what I did. It was about the hardest part of the job.


message 9: by Félix (new)

Félix (habitseven) At one point when I was struggling with a new person in Utah (she could NOT get it right, no matter what I told her), I went back to visit my previous person in Texas and asked for a "prescription" for cutting my hair right. Even that didn't work. I think it was a lack of skill on the new one's part.

Fortunately she got pg and had to quit. She handed me off to another one who could understand the Rx from TX, and did a marvelous job.


message 10: by Kevin (new)

Kevin  (ksprink) | 11469 comments i agree sally, it is very hard to explain what you want if it is not like what you have always had. my wife would take a picture of a hairstyle with her. is that helpful enough?


message 11: by Sally, la reina (new)

Sally (mrsnolte) | 17365 comments Mod
Only if it is on her own head.

And Larry, I think it wasn't a disability on the part of the stylist, but the fact that you and she just didn't speak the same language.


message 12: by Félix (new)

Félix (habitseven) Maybe that's it. She just kept cutting it shorter and shorter, which is a disaster for my straight, cowlicky head.

I also get discouraged when they don't look at you when you walk in, and realize that that's the way you wear your hair -- not slicked back the way they want it to be.


message 13: by [deleted user] (new)

My wife cuts my hair, I avoid getting my hair cut when she's mad at me.


message 14: by Sally, la reina (new)

Sally (mrsnolte) | 17365 comments Mod
I bet she was just as frustrated and was trying to restrain herself from shaving your head bald. I've SO wanted to do that before.

This one guy, Tom, I could cut his hair right and nobody else could. He was so grateful and wealthy that he came in every week for the most micro of all haircuts and tipped me 20 dollars, on top of his 25 dollar haircut, every single time.


message 15: by RandomAnthony (new)

RandomAnthony | 14537 comments Sally, why do they always ask me if I want hair product? Do they get a commission? Or are they trying to tell me I'd look better with it? Or both?


message 16: by Félix (new)

Félix (habitseven) I'm sure you're right, Sally.

I tip pretty well, too, when I find someone who can do it. Unfortunately, the current gal is in a baby way, and will be taking a leave this summer. :(


message 17: by Sally, la reina (last edited Feb 25, 2010 08:07AM) (new)

Sally (mrsnolte) | 17365 comments Mod
We only got a percentage of the business we did on people's heads, but all of what we sold in product, so yes, she really wants you to buy some.

Plus, salon product really is light years better than the shit they sell in grocery stores, and your hair would look better and behave better if you use at least some of what she recommends.
(that's a lot of better, but it is true)

So both. Your hair would probably look better if you used it, and she'd make more money (and her bosses happy) if you spent 25 dollars on hair gel.


message 18: by Kevin (new)

Kevin  (ksprink) | 11469 comments when i was getting haircuts i always used to tell the girls i used prell. that would wind them up


message 19: by Sally, la reina (new)

Sally (mrsnolte) | 17365 comments Mod
You are such a troublemaker.


message 20: by Félix (new)

Félix (habitseven) Almost cut my hair
It happened just the other day
It was getting kind of long
I could have said it was in my way

But I didn't and I wonder why
I feel like letting my freak flag fly
And I feel like I owe it to someone

Must be because I had the flu for Christmas
And I'm not feeling up to par
It increases my paranoia
Like looking into a mirror and seeing a police car

But I'm not giving in an inch to fear
Cos I promised myself this year
I feel like I owe it to someone

When I finally get myself together
I'm gonna get down in some of that sweet summer weather
I'm going to find a space inside to laugh
Separate the wheat from the chaff

Cos I feel like I owe it, yeah
Said I feel like I owe it, yeah
You know I feel---- like I owe it yeah to someone


message 21: by Sally, la reina (new)

Sally (mrsnolte) | 17365 comments Mod
That's ok, Bun. Since quitting I've only had my haircut twice, and I usually just trim things myself. I now use Finesse shampoo, although I do have some product (Bumble and Bumble stuff) leftover that I still prefer. Hopefully it'll hold out until I start working again.


message 22: by Kevin (new)

Kevin  (ksprink) | 11469 comments when you use "product" in your hair you are serious about it


message 23: by Mary (new)

Mary (madamefifi) I put my hair in a low ponytail at the nape of my neck nd chop off the end of the ponytail. I haven't been to a salon in years. I hate them, quite frankly. Hate, hate, hate. No offense, Sally.


message 24: by Sally, la reina (new)

Sally (mrsnolte) | 17365 comments Mod
No offense taken. It is no longer my profession, and the ponytail chopper type is not the same as the people who come in and want a 30 minute discussion about hair color tones and just how to trim bangs.
I think people who self groom are refreshing.


message 25: by Kevin (new)

Kevin  (ksprink) | 11469 comments sally thinks i am refreshing


message 26: by Félix (new)

Félix (habitseven) lucky you


message 27: by RandomAnthony (new)

RandomAnthony | 14537 comments Define "self groom".


message 28: by Sally, la reina (new)

Sally (mrsnolte) | 17365 comments Mod
"put my hair in a low ponytail at the nape of my neck nd chop off the end of the ponytail."
or
"I just put my hair in a braid and cut off the end of the braid."


message 29: by Sally, la reina (new)

Sally (mrsnolte) | 17365 comments Mod
Dunno how Kevin fits into that.


message 30: by RandomAnthony (new)

RandomAnthony | 14537 comments Ah, got it. Like cut your own hair. I thought you meant something more complicated. I'm not sure what, but I'm fairly sure I'm not doing it.


message 31: by Kevin (new)

Kevin  (ksprink) | 11469 comments is not shaving ones own noggin with a razor sharp razor (i love that combo of words) self grooming?

i have only had my head shaved by others on two occasions. one being a very nervous barber in a small village called Yuscaran who used a new cheapo plastic razor and cold water. his hands were shaking like barney fife and then a semi sensual head shave by a very attractive woman in a salon in Honduras as well.


message 32: by RandomAnthony (last edited Feb 25, 2010 12:11PM) (new)

RandomAnthony | 14537 comments and then a semi sensual head shave by a very attractive woman in a salon in Honduras as well.

Details, please. Not the pervy ones. This just sounds...interesting.


message 33: by Sarah (new)

Sarah | 13815 comments I let my sister cut my hair for about eighteen years before finally going back to a salon last year. It was a nice punk place where she offered you a beer while you waited, and I trusted her enough to say "do what you think is best". But she has lately gotten a lot of press and now I can't get my requests for an appointment returned from the new person answering her e-mail. Sigh.


message 34: by Sally, la reina (new)

Sally (mrsnolte) | 17365 comments Mod
mmmm, beer.


message 35: by Kevin (new)

Kevin  (ksprink) | 11469 comments a couple of years ago i went to honduras to sort of hitch hike around for a week or so and see some friends. i had been there before many times but this time flew to a diff airport than i had been with only a backpack and some money. i rode buses and hitched and visited friends and hung out. on the last day in Tegucigalpa i was with some friends one of who is named Marlene. she is a lady in her early 60's who adores me and i her. a wonderful lady. anyway, she and her friend also named marlene were having a girl day and they wanted me to join. neither speaks any english but both are so much fun to be with. we went to a fabric store, lunch, a market and then they took me to the salon that the other marlene owns and instructed one of the girls working there to give me the shave treatment. she was a very nice looking latina girl in her early-mid twenties. they dress very nicely in form fitting clothes and are super touchy-feely there. she did the whole hot towel treatment on my face and head and then lathered me up and shaved me with a straight razor. she was just sensual in how she did it moving around smoothly and flicking the razor while being right up on me. she smelled great. all the other girls in there oo'd and ahh'd over me and made a big deal for fun. the marlene's got a great kick out of the whole deal. i felt like pretty woman


message 36: by RandomAnthony (new)

RandomAnthony | 14537 comments i felt like pretty woman

Heh. That's awesome. I want to feel like pretty woman, too.


message 37: by [deleted user] (new)

RandomAnthony wrote: "i felt like pretty woman

Heh. That's awesome. I want to feel like pretty woman, too."


Oh Lordy guys , snap out of it!


message 38: by Kevin (new)

Kevin  (ksprink) | 11469 comments hahahahahha


message 39: by Phil (new)

Phil | 11729 comments Kevin "El Liso Grande" wrote: "the marlene's got a great kick out of the whole deal."

The marlene's what?


message 40: by Mary (new)

Mary (madamefifi) When I was in my very early 20s I always let myself get talked into bizarre hair modifications (this was during the New Wave era). One time the stylist cut these incredibly short spiky bangs that looked good in the salon but were a disaster at home. Another time I came home with shocking-pink hair. I just can't trust myself.


message 41: by Félix (new)

Félix (habitseven) And yet you expect us to trust you, Mary.


message 42: by Sally, la reina (new)

Sally (mrsnolte) | 17365 comments Mod
Always up to general fuckery, that one.


message 43: by Félix (new)

Félix (habitseven) For sure.


message 44: by Lobstergirl, el principe (new)

Lobstergirl | 24485 comments Mod
Honestly, it's hard to answer the question. Really what I need is photos of me with different haircuts and descriptive captions that I can present to the stylist. Otherwise the only things I know how to say are what length, and put in some layers. I've discovered that layers are a good thing. I used to be very afraid of them. Last week I got about 4-5 inches chopped off, now I have a chinlength cut which the lady and I arrived at by looking at pictures in a magazine. When she was done, I thought it was too severe in the front and I asked her to do some soft layers around my face and she did, and when we were all done we both thought it looked better. She was a good cutter. I've had mediocre cutters at the same salon and it seems like they never last more than a few months anyway.


message 45: by [deleted user] (new)

RandomAnthony wrote: "Ok, yesterday I got my hair (plural) cut, and I swear, every time I get my hair cut I face the dreaded question...

"So what do you want to do with your hair today?"

How do you answer that que..."


I used to date a hairdresser so I've done it all: long, short, spiked, side part, middle part, no part, blue-black, blonde, scrunched, slicked back... I've been at war with my hair for 30 years.

Now it's simply: three on the sides, five on top (those are clipper sizes), a little bit of gel and I'm out of the chair in 10 minutes.


message 46: by Michele (new)

Michele bookloverforever (lovebooks14) | 1970 comments I'm like BunWat: once a year I braid my hair and cut off the ends. I gave up going to hairdressers and hating the results. it saves money too.


message 47: by Jonathan (new)

Jonathan Lopez | 4728 comments Clark wrote: "Now it's simply: three on the sides, five on top (those are clipper sizes), a little bit of gel and I'm out of the chair in 10 minutes..."

Me too, Clark. Except I do mine myself (and square up the back using a mirror). Haven't bothered with a barber in about fifteen years--one less nuisance in life.


message 48: by [deleted user] (new)

Jonathan wrote: "Clark wrote: "Now it's simply: three on the sides, five on top (those are clipper sizes), a little bit of gel and I'm out of the chair in 10 minutes..."

Me too, Clark. Except I do mine myself (and..."


I gotta hand it to you, Jonathan. Cutting your own hair must require a giant set of cajones.


message 49: by Sarah (new)

Sarah | 13815 comments At my last haircut I must have said something wrong, like "not too short," because when I got home Zu said "I thought you were getting your hair cut."

Now it's as long as it has been in years, but it's the wrong time of year to cut it. I need more hair to keep my head warm.


message 50: by Sarah (new)

Sarah | 13815 comments Barb wrote: "My only criteria is usually "just don't cut it so short I can't put it up in a pony tail"."

That's my problem. I want to be able to pull it back, but it looks best when it's just shorter than that.


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