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message 1: by Janet (new)

Janet Dean | 466 comments The Substitute Bride was a fun story to write—with a mail-order bride, disgruntled groom and a small town filled with quirky characters. Here’s a peek:

They Struck a Bargain for Marriage

Fleeing an arranged marriage, debutante Elizabeth Manning exchanges places with a mail-order bride bound for New Harmony, Iowa. Life on the frontier can’t be worse than forced wedlock to pay her father’s gambling debts. But Ted Logan’s rustic lifestyle and rambunctious children prove to be more of a challenge than Elizabeth expects. She doesn’t know how to be a mother or a wife. She doesn’t even know how to tell Ted the truth about her past—especially as her feelings for him grow. Little does she know, Ted’s hiding secrets of his own. When their pasts collide, there’s more than one heart at stake.

Why was Ted disgruntled?

When he and Elizabeth are about to speak their vows, the bride suggests one teeny change—the name on the marriage license.  A clear sign trouble lies ahead for this couple.

As a homemaker and mother, Elizabeth Manning is definitely a “fish out of water.” Poor Ted. Yet no matter how inept she is, Elizabeth perseveres. She manages to find unique ways to handle the children and her new and very challenging life on the farm. I admire her spirit and fortitude—the same attributes that enabled women to survive the challenges of the West.

Ted is a dreamboat with a Call of his own. And a past he fears will raise its ugly head. Elizabeth is carrying a secret too. Life is never dull in New Harmony, Iowa. :-)


message 2: by Adrianna (new)

Adrianna (adriannas) | 32 comments Is this a creative writing contest or do we share another story we read or heard about (regardless of whether it's fact or fiction)?


message 3: by Jennifer (new)

Jennifer (jennafraugh) | 4102 comments I think we just share our story. That's usually how it's worked.


message 4: by Janet (new)

Janet Dean | 466 comments Adrianna wrote: "Is this a creative writing contest or do we share another story we read or heard about (regardless of whether it's fact or fiction)?"

No need to write a thing. Just share a funny or weird wedding story. If you had a relative who married for convenience share it. We'll just chat.




message 5: by Janet (new)

Janet Dean | 466 comments My mom couldn't sleep the night before her wedding. Her sister gave her a sleeping pill. The first sleeping pill she'd ever taken and as it turned out the last. The next morning she couldn't wake up and was late for the morning ceremony. No doubt scaring my dad. Fortunately this was a small wedding with only the preacher and my dad's brother and my mom's sister as witnesses.

I'm sure everyone can top that one. :-)


message 6: by Barbara (new)

Barbara | 517 comments When a friend of mine got married she walked down the aisle with a blusher veil over her face. She and her new husband were each using a small candle to light a larger unity candle, and then they were to blow the small candles out. The problem was that when it was time to blow her candle out, she forgot to put the face veil behind her. She blew the blusher veil into the candle, setting it on fire. She screamed and they blew it out quickly. No one was hurt at all, but it sure added excitement to the ceremony!


message 7: by Jennifer (new)

Jennifer (jennafraugh) | 4102 comments Janet Dean wrote: "My mom couldn't sleep the night before her wedding. Her sister gave her a sleeping pill. The first sleeping pill she'd ever taken and as it turned out the last. The next morning she couldn't wake u..."

lol! too funny!


message 8: by JanetTronstad (new)

JanetTronstad Author Tronstad | 2758 comments Mod
Love both of the stories -- the only funny one I have to add is that my sister ran out of gas when driving to her wedding. I don't remember why we had so many vehicles going, but she was driving herself down to the church when she ran out of gas on our isolated country road. She had to walk to the nearby farm of a old curmudgeon bachelor who was probably very surprised to see a bride on his doorstep!


message 9: by Jennifer (new)

Jennifer (jennafraugh) | 4102 comments Barbara wrote: "When a friend of mine got married she walked down the aisle with a blusher veil over her face. She and her new husband were each using a small candle to light a larger unity candle, and then they w..."

Wow...that's a little scary!


Mine is a candle story too. My Uncle was getting married in Arkansas...major hickville town(I can say that because it's true and they're family :D)Powdered blue and white were her colors. So, I was lighting the candles along with my guy cousin. We were supposed light our candles at the same time...it was menorah type candle holder. But, no factor in the fact that the air conditioner would be on the moment I was trying to light the candles right under the vent! My aunt who was sitting in the congregation had to come up and shield the candle from the air coming out of the vent so I could finish lighting them! Someone had to go run and turn off the air. Took like ten mintues for me to light them! I think I was like 12 or 13 years old at the time. Then we go to the reception and all they had was cake and blue punch that was really made out of koolaide...that was some nasty punch. Not to mention the fact that they invited everyone to come to the lake cabin for their honeymoon since they rented a big cabin and wanted everyone to come with them....very weird. We still laugh about it to this day!


message 10: by Julie (new)

Julie | 40 comments My own wedding was a near disaster! The morning of, I get a call from my matron of honor. She is in the hospital ER after passing out. Of course, everyone thinks she is pregnant so we just dismiss it and know that she'll join us at the beauty shop shortly. (By the way, I got married on her 5th wedding anniversary...totally didn't plan it that way, I promise. We've been best friends since 3rd grade!). Then a few minutes later, one of my cake servers (my cousin) called to say she was sick and could come to the wedding but would not stay for the reception. So, I called my aunts, one to serve cake and the other to see if she could be my stand-in matron of honor in case Valerie couldn't make it. She said she could but she couldn't wear her dress. Then we stared making plans to fix the dress quickly which we quickly abandoned when we saw that was futile. I went to get my hair done with my mom and other two bridesmaids and flower girls. That took forever and a day because the flower girls (my soon to be step daughters) were fussing about their hair. They didn't like it and it had to be redone. Finally Valerie shows up to get her hair done but looks horrible (to make a long story short, she wasn't pregnant and it took a couple more years to figure out she had a heart condition that required her to get a pacemaker at the ripe "old" age of 25). Anyway, the wedding went off without any other hitches (except that I couldn't get his ring on his finger all the way...he had to put it on himself!). The coolest thing about my wedding was that we had guests we'd didn't know or recognize. Come to find out people we had chatted with on the website we met on came to our wedding!!! We were able to meet them and hang out with them the next day when we hosted a cookout for our families (many were out of town guests staying for the weekend so we postponed our honeymoon to hang out with them too). Was it all worth it? You bet! We'll be celebrating nine years this June! Any wedding that goes off without a problem is a fortunate one!


message 11: by Jennifer (new)

Jennifer (jennafraugh) | 4102 comments Julie wrote: "My own wedding was a near disaster! The morning of, I get a call from my matron of honor. She is in the hospital ER after passing out. Of course, everyone thinks she is pregnant so we just dismiss ..."

Hahaha! Wow Julie! More power to you!


message 12: by Heidi (new)

Heidi | 985 comments A series of silly things that happened at my wedding :) I'm sure there are much better stories, but they are funny and precious memories to us :)

My sister toasted me at my wedding, and I smiled, thinking of what a sweet and sentimental moment this would be. However, she told everyone that after all of the losers I had dated she was sure glad that I had met my husband. She threw in a, "seriously though, I love you guys!" and even teared up, and everyone else laughed at her comment, but I was mortified! I can look back and laugh now, but I was beet red at the time wondering what my guests thought of me and my choices in men, lol!

Prior to our lighting the unity candle (unity candles seem to present a lot of problems don't they Barbara, lol! :) the Pastor said it should be lit, for easier lighting when the time came for us to light it. So my hubby's best man lit the candle, let it burn a bit, and then blew it out. Well, when we went to light the unity candle it would not light! I wasn't leaving that candle though until it got lit! I felt it would be a bad omen of some sort, lol. However, as we kept trying to light it hot wax pooled in my lace gloves and it really hurt! I couldn't let that show though and my husband who was getting the same thing just looked over at me with a pained look on his face. Finally I motion the Pastor over, and then the pastor fiddled around with the candle and asked us to try it again, it finally lit! However I was picking wax out of my lace gloves until after the pictures were done, then I took them right off!

Oh, and we were told that the antique car that we were renting for our ride to the chapel would be decorated and boy were we excited to ride in such a lovely car all decorated for our special day! We imagined writting on the back window, paper flowers, heck, if it had looked like a float we would have loved it, lol! Well, on the day of the wedding the car was decorated...I guess, it had small diamond shapped stick on sign on the back window that said, "Just Married", similar to the ones that say, "Baby on Board". That was it, that was the 'decorating'. Lol, we just had to laugh, luckily decorating wasn't something we paid for!

While dancing with my husband's boss during the money dance, he put his arm around my neck in a sweet gesture, one problem, I couldn't move my head or neck for the whole dance as he had me caught by my veil! I had my head in an odd arc the whole time as if I was looking up at him. I think that is why he didn't notice what he had done, he thought I was just looking thoughtfully at him, lol.

Our little nephew also mentioned how much he liked that our bridal party had walked down the isle to Taco Bell's Cannon (Pachelbel's Canon). He was trying to be so sophisticated and show us his music knowledge, it was cute and so funny!


message 13: by Jennifer (new)

Jennifer (jennafraugh) | 4102 comments Taco Bell's Cannon...lol! That's great.


message 14: by Julie (new)

Julie | 40 comments Janet Tronstad wrote: "Love both of the stories -- the only funny one I have to add is that my sister ran out of gas when driving to her wedding. I don't remember why we had so many vehicles going, but she was driving h..."

When my nephew got married, we were going back to the house for the reception. His dad ran out of gas on the highway and we drove up behind him with gas can in tow. Needless to say, I have many pictures to remind him that next time he needs to fill up when he's going somewhere important! Everyone was waiting for all of us to get there before the reception started!


message 15: by Jennifer (new)

Jennifer (jennafraugh) | 4102 comments http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0Dmtm...


hehehe! This conversation reminded me of this video on youtube!


message 17: by Julie (new)

Julie | 40 comments Heidi wrote: "A series of silly things that happened at my wedding :) I'm sure there are much better stories, but they are funny and precious memories to us :)

My sister toasted me at my wedding, and I smiled,..."


Great story Heidi! It's great that you can look back and laugh at it now. Had that been my sister...well, I just don't know what I would have done!! LOL


message 18: by Ausjenny (new)

Ausjenny | 4919 comments I shared 2 on 2 past blogs will have to think of other weddings!


message 19: by Ausjenny (new)

Ausjenny | 4919 comments Oh can I give a list of things I have learnt from weddings!

1. have both side of the family in wedding photos not just one of the sister of the groom she tends to feel neglected (this happened to me they took lots of photos of the brides side and even her friends etc but I was in one official photo which was mum, me and the bridal couple) Mum was in alot like with both sets of parents and also the one with all her family but only mum from out side.)

2. Make sure the visiting family in this case grooms know where they are going for photos and reception etc. I was babysitting and looking after the house of the bride and the grooms parents his mother in-particular was so distraught they couldn't find the house for ages but when they did they couldn't find where the photos were being done and when they finally made contact found they had been done and were at the reception which I had to help direct them to it was out of town.

3. Make sure your bridesmaid and bride get on and dont try to kill each other (well it wasn't really they would kill each other its just they clashed so much it was like ww3 at times)

4. At the reception don't put all the singles together in pairs (boy girl boy girl) its ok to put them on the same table but give them a little support if possible.

5. Dont put all single women together and all single men at another table. if they are friends with other couples put them with friends. this happened to me and I was 30ish, we had a couple of teens and a couple of elderly ladies. It was really uncomfortable in many ways as we didn't know each other but we all had friends on couples tables.

6. elope

7. Elope

8. ELOPE!



message 20: by Heidi (new)

Heidi | 985 comments I love all of these stories. It's been one of those weeks so this is just what I needed :) Julie, wow, what a series of events! I'm just glad your matron of honor was OK! Jennifer, lol, at your honeymoon invite! That's a first! Janet, picturing your sister walking to that mans door is hilarious. I bet he thought his prayers for a mate had been answered when he opened that door, lol. It's almost like the start of a LIH story! :) Barbara, it seems candles candles can be a lot of trouble! Jennifer, you, and I all mention them in our stories, lol! Janet D, your poor mom, rushing on your wedding is no fun, but at least she made it to the church on time and has a great story to boot! Great advice too Jenny, although I would never elope :), I LOVE weddings! I watch almost every wedding show cable has to offer, lol!


message 21: by Julie (new)

Julie | 40 comments Ausjenny wrote: "Oh can I give a list of things I have learnt from weddings!

1. have both side of the family in wedding photos not just one of the sister of the groom she tends to feel neglected (this happened to ..."


Jenny...I love your list!!! Especially #6-8!! We wanted to elope but knew my family would kill him if we did!! Speaking of pictures, I married a man with two daughters. There are pictures of me with the girls, pictures of him with the girls, but there are NO pictures of the 4 of us together! I had an amatuer photographer at my wedding. Great pics just not one of the ones I wanted!


message 22: by JanetTronstad (new)

JanetTronstad Author Tronstad | 2758 comments Mod
Julie -- It would seem to me that it would be a good idea for a pahotographer to ask the bride and groom for a list of the photos they want (that way you could think about it before the event) --


message 23: by Ausjenny (new)

Ausjenny | 4919 comments Julie, the only wedding im in we have photos of the bridal party. the girls with the groom etc.
but there isn't one with me and the bride. there was a matron of honor and then 2 bridesmaids a junior bridesmaid and a baby as the flower girl.
the 3 of us (besides matron of honor) haven't got a photo with the bride alone. we were dismissed after the first lot of photos while she changed and then they only wanted the matron of honor. But the Grooms side were all there and there are photos with each of the groomsmen etc. its a bit sad as I would have love one with the bride but I didn't realize til it was to late.


message 24: by Ausjenny (new)

Ausjenny | 4919 comments in my case I dont get on that well with my brother but it was no excuse! even mum felt disappointed. the one photo they got wasn't even good the ones someone took with my camera were better.



message 25: by Janet (new)

Janet Dean | 466 comments LOL, Barbara! It's a wonder she didn't get burned. But since she didn't, that's hilarious. It's the little details that'll get you every time.


message 26: by Janet (last edited Feb 13, 2010 08:14PM) (new)

Janet Dean | 466 comments Oh, Janet T, your poor sister! And she was wearing her bridal gown? LOL A bride on his stoop had to be a highlight of his life whether he knew it or not. :-)


message 27: by Janet (new)

Janet Dean | 466 comments Hi Jennifer! Having to spend that much time lighting candles in front of all those people had to be disconcerting to a preteen. You and your aunt handled it well!

Having the guests come on the honeymoon is a new one on me. LOL Just goes to show life is stranger than fiction. Or whatever that old saying is.


message 28: by Jennifer (new)

Jennifer (jennafraugh) | 4102 comments Hehehe! Nice list Jenny! I think if I eloped, my mother would kill me. She's been planning my wedding since I was 16...i'm not kidding. We've already got the bridesmaid's gifts figured out. When I was around 16 my mom her her two friends were looking in a magazine and saw this idea of a hatbox with a five piece place setting in it....you eat on the place setting for the bridal brunch and then wash them and each girl takes a set home in the hat box complete with silverware to go along....they've got the hat boxes ready and china saved and silverware. Whenever we go to antique stores mom will go look to see if there's something better than what we have. Each place setting is different too. Like I said, my mom has been planning this for 11 years now! Too bad I don't even have a boyfriend. LOL My mother is crazy!


message 29: by Jennifer (new)

Jennifer (jennafraugh) | 4102 comments Janet Dean wrote: "Hi Jennifer! Having to spend that much time lighting candles in front of all those people had to be disconcerting to a preteen. You and your aunt handled it well!

Having the guests come on the..."


No kidding! I would be saying adios to family and friends...don't want them coming on the honeymoon!


message 30: by Janet (new)

Janet Dean | 466 comments Wow, Julie, you must've been sweating buckets over all the possible no shows at your wedding. Sounds like you took it all in stride. And you're right. Few weddings don't have something go wrong.


message 31: by Janet (new)

Janet Dean | 466 comments I've got to leave. My husband andI are celebrating Valentine's Day tonight. Will catch up with all the great stories later. Sorry!


message 32: by Ausjenny (new)

Ausjenny | 4919 comments Jennifer my mum always said she was waiting till I got married then she would be happy to go.
which may explain why shes still here!
We dont do all the prewedding stuff here.
we have a rehersal but there is not dinner with it. there are the hens and bucks nights depending but not all have them the hens is newer. there is normally a shower or 2 (kitchen tea or a linen party or something)
where you bring gifts. but not alot other.
You know the only thing I got out of the wedding I was in was a pair of clip on earrings. As I dont wear earrings I had to have clip ons.


message 33: by Ausjenny (new)

Ausjenny | 4919 comments Have a nice time out Janet


message 34: by Jennifer (new)

Jennifer (jennafraugh) | 4102 comments I'm actually a bridesmaid in a wedding in August. Third time I've been one...well, one time was maid of honor, but same thing. There are always tons of things to do before the wedding! Hens and Bucks night? Is that like the Bachelor and Bachelorette party?


message 35: by Jennifer (new)

Jennifer (jennafraugh) | 4102 comments Have a great Date Janet! My parents went to Houston for their Valentine's date.


message 36: by Ausjenny (new)

Ausjenny | 4919 comments Yes I think you call it a doe show in some places.
but yes the party they have before they get married.
the womens one is getting more common now but I haven't actually been to one.
the one wedding I didn't have to do much I got there early to help but she is sort of disorganized and was the only one who could do alot of the things till the day before. trying to pin her down on what needed doing was to hard.
I did help a friend who got married and did most of the decorations and folded the serviettes etc.


message 37: by Margaret (new)

Margaret Metz | 80 comments My husband and I got married by proxy.

We were both in the Army - tried getting together several times... and they just kept sending one of us one way and the other another... I was in Korea, he was in MD. I was getting out to come back to MD and they cut orders for him to go to AZ. We were frustrated. I needed a place to live, he was in training only and coming back to MD - but I had would have no job, house, nothing - the army would have no reason to give us support. So he looked into it and found out that in DC we could get married by proxy.

A notarized piece of paper saying he wanted to marry me took his place at the ceremony. He found the chaplain and made the legal arrangements, then left to go to Arizona. I arrived a few days later from Korea and picked up the paperwork he left for me.

I called the chaplain and made arrangements to meet him in DC. I was married at the Jefferson memorial - with cherry blossoms floating down around me. The chaplain was all dressed up formally - and Japanese tourists took pictures - the only ones taken because I didn't think of it. The chaplain actually told me I would have to remember that as an Army bride I would have to learn to sacrifice things that other wives come to expect. I looked around and giggled. I was thinking, "I'm getting married by myself and you think I don't know that?" lol

My husband called me every night for almost a week to find out if we were married or not. I was teasing him and not telling him which day it was scheduled for... I told him it was because I didn't want them to give him a bachelor party or for him to start the honeymoon without me. I wasn't worried though. He was thrilled to be married and has been very good to me. We became Christians after we were married and married again in our home church exactly one year after that proxy wedding. It was also a rushed wedding because the Army was relocating us again.



message 38: by Patsy (new)

Patsy | 217 comments My Mom told me this story about my great grandmother and great grandfather (maybe it was great great grandparents, can't remember, have to ask again). Anyway my great grandmother was part Indian and my great grandfather bought her to marry him. My great grandfather gave her father some things in exchange for her. (Can't remeber what all it was, but I know tobacco was in the deal). I saw an old picture of them and they didn't look to happy. Why is it that in all the pictures of old people "way back when" they are not smiling. Guess they had a hard life and didn't see nothing to smile about.


message 39: by JanetTronstad (new)

JanetTronstad Author Tronstad | 2758 comments Mod
Patsy -- I've heard smiles weren't common in most of those old photos because people had such poor teeth.


message 40: by Julie (new)

Julie | 40 comments Jennifer wrote: "Hehehe! Nice list Jenny! I think if I eloped, my mother would kill me. She's been planning my wedding since I was 16...i'm not kidding. We've already got the bridesmaid's gifts figured out. When I ..."

That sounds like a really neat gift though! You're bridesmaids will enjoy it I'm sure! :)


message 41: by Julie (new)

Julie | 40 comments Lee, what an interesting story. I didn't realize you could get married by proxy. How long was it before you got to see each other as a married couple?

Patsy, great story! Imagine if we had people paying for others today to marry. Would it work? I highly doubt it! I think Janet is probably right about the lack of smiles in pictures.


message 42: by Jennifer (new)

Jennifer (jennafraugh) | 4102 comments Lee, that's a neat story. I didn't know that you could marry by Proxy either. But, glad it all worked out eventually!

Awesome Story Patsy...I've heard that it took forever to take the picture. You had to sit still for a long time since it took forever to get exposure for the picture to process. It hurts after you smile for forever(wedding picture time! Even my mouth hurt just being in the bridal party!) But, the bad teeth one was a common reason too.


message 43: by Renee (new)

Renee (steelergirl83) | 211 comments Wow these are some great stories! I've never really been to a lot of wedding so I don't have any funny stories to tell...probably because I wsa too busy crying to notice if anything funny happened! I tear up at weddings, I'm a hopeless romantic, what can I say?

Julie, I've read a few historical novels with marriages by proxy but it has been a while since so I don't remember what they were LOL!


message 44: by Renee (new)

Renee (steelergirl83) | 211 comments Oh forgot to say don't enter me Miss Janet! I already have my own signed copy ;-)


message 45: by Jennifer (new)

Jennifer (jennafraugh) | 4102 comments Renee wrote: "Oh forgot to say don't enter me Miss Janet! I already have my own signed copy ;-)"

Lucky! lol


message 46: by Patsy (new)

Patsy | 217 comments Ah, never really thought about the teeth being a problem as to why people didn't smile in the older pictures but now that you mention it that would make sense.


message 47: by Margaret (new)

Margaret Metz | 80 comments I'm glad you all liked the story. Julie, he was at training for almost three months before we were together again. It wasn't your normal beginning.


message 48: by Heidi (last edited Feb 13, 2010 06:29PM) (new)

Heidi | 985 comments What a romantic story Lee, you both loved each other so much, and wanted to get married so badly, that love couldn't wait, so you did it by proxy! Praise the Lord too that after your marriage you both became Christians and it's so neat that you married again, this time in your home church :) I love your story!

Patsy, what interesting history is involved in the marriage of your great-grandparents! I bet, despite the lack of smiles, that is a wonderful picture of them as well! I love old photos :).


message 49: by Rita (new)

Rita Hestand (Redameter) | 1 comments I don't have any bride stories to tell, but the book I'm working on now is called, Mail Order Nanny, in which the kids of a widower send for a Nanny....by mail, without the father knowing about it.

Weddings aren't something I go to often. Never have.
One when I was a kid, and three of my own. Only two were actually weddings though. LOL
Nothing fancy in either of them.
Rita Hestand


message 50: by Melody (new)

Melody | 2493 comments When my bro got married the guy who was supposed to do his wedding cake canceled the night before the wedding. There was no time to order one from any bakery, and none of us in the family bake that well, so my best friend and I got a little creative. We were at Sam's Club getting all the veggies we were serving, and in the bakery there was this tub of chocolate cake with like a pudding/mousse and it looked good, so we bought two tubs of it, molded it into a circle with my Mom's cheeecake pan, and then bought the small ganache cake Sam's Club had and we put that on top of the round 'cake' we made.
We covered it in whipped topping and strawberries. Gotta be the most unusual wedding cake ever, but my brother and sis-in-law loved it, even if they whipped topping melted all over the place. :)
I'll have to see if I can round up a picture of my best friend and I covered in the chocolate putting that together about 1:00 in the morning... :)


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