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Dealing with posters and other non-books
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Melody
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Aug 26, 2008 05:15AM
Maps, sheet music, coloring books and stickers are the questions I have. My vote is not a book for each of these.
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Apparently sheet music, if in bound book from ARE books. The others I'd say not.
Some journals are like workbooks, I've noticed. Sabrina Ward Harrison's latest "book" is actually a journal you write in and work on throughout the piece. It's made to encourage others to create their own art journals to discovering their true selves.I vote to keep in the Witches' Calendars because they are so chalk full of information. They have birth dates and historical events outlined throughout them. They are not your standard calendar with just a pretty picture attached. They are very helpful with holiday seasons as well. Recipes and folklore are often found in the side columns of them.
I have a few coloring and sticker books which I consider books - Some contain a black/white outline picture on one page, and a full page description of the picture on the other page, chalk full of information.
And some 'sticker' books are just children's picture books with some pages of stickers stuck in as a carrot....
But I have many more which I do not.
I think it relies on individual judgment.
If journals have their own materials I agree; some really are just blank books. I've often been able to tell by the description which is which.
I found this book on the site and I can't really find any more info about it anywhere else. I was wondering if it's even a book. The "Awbc" at the end made me wonder if it's something like the "ppk"s and "fl"s that Michael said are usually not books. Any thoughts?http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/29...#
JG, It doesn't look like a book to me but I can't determine what it is. Michael & Rivka & others?
No idea what Awbc might stand for, but I agree, it doesn't look like a book to me, but rather some sort of display or multi-copy set?
Not a booked. Thanks for the input!
Does anyone know what on earth these are?http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/22...
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/22...
Amy Jenkins has written a novel called 'Honeymoon' but I've never heard of Honeymoon Bunting and Honeymoon Proof. They have isbn, but no information whatsoever at all in the literary websites.
Proofs are generally copies of books distributed, sometimes in unbound form, for selected readers to read before actual publication.I don't know what bunting is.
I would suspect the above two are NOT A BOOKs. They do both have ISBNs so I'd put NOT A BOOK in front of them.
Neither have ratings.
The proofs are plural. If a single proof I might leave it, but multiple it seems to be NOT A BOOK to me.
I'll wait for some consensus. I've been wrong other times in both directions about NOT A BOOKs.
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Ok, I just changed them. They can always be changed back if proved to be books.
Sara, If I remember correctly, according to Otis, the answer is NO.
Given that only 2 people have rated it, I'd message them before deleting, so they know and can add the books separately if they want.
That's my opinion anyway.
I don't much like having a fake book standing in for a series, but didn't we talk about allowing it until we see what sort of series objects were going to be available on that wonderful day when we get series information in book properties? I feel like there was a discussion, but I can't find it (and I'm on some excellent cough syrup right now, I'm afraid)....
Cait, I couldn't find it either. I thought Otis said they should go. I actually don't mind them. Rivka? Others? Do you remember?
Cait, I don't think it's the cough syrup. ;-)
so I think for now I'll set it aside on a seprate shelf in my books until a answer is reached. That way I `can find it easily in my 300+ books :]
Lisa, thank you for explaining proof and for taking care of it :)
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Correct. With the exception of cases where such collections have actually been sold as such and have an ISBN.
Ok. Thanks`. Should I send messages to the people who have it on their bookshelves???
Sara, I would although I guess that we have no obligation, but when there aren't too many raters, I try to message them. (I hate taking items off people's shelves. Many members don't know these items aren't supposed to be in the Goodreads database.)
I remember vaguely them being mentioned at one point in time. I don't see why you should get rid of them when they are books. Some may have additional items included, but most don't. They're just bulk item books, really.If I had a part of a series edition I would be annoyed to have to add them all separately. That can be tedious.
What both sides of this debate are saying have valid points.
mathilda, I think a lot of what we're talking about are not actual books. For instance: it's when members put in the data base: "all the Harry Potter books" or "the whole Nancy Drew series," etc. They're not linked to the books. Some, such as the 7 Harry Potter books, come in boxed sets and those are real books and they do stay in the Goodreads data base. I actually have no problem with the above examples as it's clear which books members mean, but my understanding is they're not supposed to be added to Goodreads.
I didn't realize you meant people were making up their own collections' profiles. That I agree with you on, as well. "I actually have no problem with the above examples as it's clear which books members mean, but my understanding is they're not supposed to be added to Goodreads."
And what is Goodreads reason for this stand? Just to be super nitpicky? Boxed sets should be able to be in the database. I really don't see their point.
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Yes, I said boxed sets are in the database. If someone rates one that's fine. If someone creates their own entry and says "all the Harry Potters" that's no ok, especially since there's a boxed set of all 7 books they could use for their book shelves.
Ok so I'll send messages to people who have 'The Entire Trixie Belden Series' on their shelves.
Are "clip strips" not a book? I'm trying to clean up the author Zondervan Publishing and there are quite a few clip strips. The only info I could find about the one that I checked said something about 5 board books, but it didn't specify if it was 5 copies of the same book or a collection of 5 different ones. This is the one I checked.http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/15...
Here is another one I'm not sure about. TP? Trade Paperback? Ams? I can't even begin to guess. I think there are several like this in Zondervan's listing also.(Did you notice that I finally figured out how to make my links nice and neat? Took long enough, didn't it?)
I've asked Rivka and others about a million times but I guess I should join the considerate people. JG, or Anyone, So could you post (or send me) instructions. Thanks!!!
Then, this time I'll try to use them when I post.
There may be an easier way, but I clicked at the bottom of the post-a-comment section where it says "some html is okay". Then I copied the gobbledy-gook after "link:" and pasted it into the comment box. Enter your own text inside the gobbledy-gook where it says "my link text".
The way I make the links look nice is to use actual html. That is, you do your links as "<_a href="the link you want here, probably http something">What you want the link to actually sayExcept that you don't actually put the underscore (_) after the first less than sign as I did (I put them in there so the "raw" code would appear properly and not be auto-translated as a link). Again, the steps are:
1. Use <_a href="link here"> (the double quotations must be there as part of the code, and you should delete the underscore after the less than symbol)
2. Followed by the text you want highlighted as the actual link
3. Followed by
Hope this makes sense.
JG and Michael,Thanks.
So, do members really mind the straight links?! ;-)
Well, I'll copy & paste and practice to myself first.
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And a TP assortment to me sounds like scented and unscented. ;) Or maybe different colors/patterns.
My first thought too! :-)
I think a clip strip is a display device which you can hang and which has a series of clips which you can attach thin/pamphlet like books (e.g., Madlibs or the like) or other similar objects (bookmarks, sticker packs, etc.) to.
So they're....Not a Book?
Thanks! One of these days I'll learn to start thinking of all the places you guys check out, I promise!
I've haven't done anything related to not a book so far but as I've been working on some authors today I keep coming across more and more poster, sticker and painting books. Do these count as books or not? I was thinking not but wanted to check with you guys before I did anything. Thanks for your help.
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Alright thanks. Puzzles seem to have isbn numbers too btw.
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And guess what I found?! Which I think are best to leave alone most often because nobody is rating them anyway. Maps! (such as AAA maps, and they make a LOT of them) They definitely are NOT A BOOKs though!
