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Should The Theory of Evolution be Taught in Schools?
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Oct 31, 2025 08:21AM
Where did those fatty acids and molecules come from?
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also sorry to everyone else for these long rants this is basically my passion i love the rna world theory and thermodynamics💀
Sydney wrote: "I don't debate in the science topics cause I don't understand anything you just said lol"lol yeah. would you be able to put it in somewhat simpler terms? if not ill do my best:)
victoria wrote: "also sorry to everyone else for these long rants this is basically my passion i love the rna world theory and thermodynamics💀"no it's fine haha
@sydneybasically i’m explaining how life could have emerged without a preexisting cell
Faith wrote: "every cause has something or someone that caused it. why does that apply to everything except how the world came to be?"It does still apply to evolution. Also thats not really evolution per say, thats how life started, and there are plenty of theories for that
@faithprimordial soup theory. i’d go into it but i feel like people are sick of me now so feel free to look it up if you’d like. could i have some evidence for creationism?
Faith wrote: "Where did those fatty acids and molecules come from?"Well if you look wayyy back as to how the elements that formed them were created, they were most likely formed in a supernova
basically in simpler terms the first cell came from either a protocell (cell like molecule), a self replicating gene, or a system of chemical reactions. when i say spontaneous i mean without a constant supply of energy
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primordial soup theory. i’d go into it but i feel like people are sick of me now so feel free to look it up if you’d like. could i have some evidence for creationism?"
no you're fine. I'm just not into science so I don't really understand any of the things you're saying lol. I can take the time to learn tho
so what do you have against the possibility of a Creator?
victoria wrote: "@faithprimordial soup theory. i’d go into it but i feel like people are sick of me now so feel free to look it up if you’d like. could i have some evidence for creationism?"
I'm really interested in this stuff, i love your paragraphs explsining it lol
Sydney wrote: "victoria wrote: "@faithprimordial soup theory. i’d go into it but i feel like people are sick of me now so feel free to look it up if you’d like. could i have some evidence for creationism?"
no ..."
same tbh, I'm learning
@hazelbasically the primordial soup their states that when earth lacked an ozone later this caused the spontaneous formation of carbon compounds by adding energy to the atmosphere found on early earth. while these conditions obviously don’t exist anymore it has been replicated through experimentation successfully
Faith wrote: "so what do you have against the possibility of a Creator?"Well its more like there is no scientific evidence for a creator so its very unlikely, thats why we ask you what evidence there is for a creator
Hope that makes sense lol
@faithi have nothing against the possibility of a creator, but i personally think it’s dishonest to not teach a widely accepted theory with evidence backing it up in schools in favor of a theory with barely any evidence. in fact, i learned all of these theories on how life could have emerged by itself and the theory of evolution in a catholic school. the idea is quality education that reflects the world. you’re deflecting my argument and basically saying i have a problem with the idea of God instead of providing evidence for your argument
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victoria wrote: "@faithi have nothing against the possibility of a creator, but i personally think it’s dishonest to not teach a widely accepted theory with evidence backing it up in schools in favor of a theory ..."
I'm not trying to make assumptions, I was just asking a question:)
@syndeywhat if life exists on earth because it’s the perfect distance from the sun, not the other way around? people by nature are self centered, we believe that life was designed ‘perfectly’ because we are life. but life isn’t designed perfectly and life exists because of the conditions on earth, not the other way around.
of course i have nothing against anyone who is religious but we can’t not teach evolution in schools. especially since it’s taking such a large role in science. for example, evolutionary relationships are being used to classify organisms now instead of just morphology
Sydney wrote: "What I don't understand is this world is designed in just the right way. The earth is the perfect distance away from the sun so we don't burn or freeze. Our bodies are designed in a way where all t..."Venus, mercury and pluto could all of been habitatle, it just so happens that they are too far or close to the sun. Life would obviously develop on the planet that has the correct conditions, so its not like the earth was in this position so life could develop, but life could develop because the earth is in this position, which is just a coincidence. I hope that makes sense i cant explain it very well lol
victoria wrote: "@syndeywhat if life exists on earth because it’s the perfect distance from the sun, not the other way around? people by nature are self centered, we believe that life was designed ‘perfectly’ bec..."
You explained that a lot better than me ty lol
Most of the evidence for creationisim I've found is not actual evidence, its just pointing out shortcomings in the evolutionary theory.(Not directed at anyone)
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oh thanks that makes sense :)
while we haven’t seen life come from non life we’ve seen organic molecules come from gases which is to an extent evidence
Sydney wrote: "there is the theory of abiogenesis which states that life can come from non-life. But this has never been an observed event and it is just a hypothesis for the explanation of the creation of the wo..."I don't know much about this, but I imagine its because that happening is an incredibly rare event, so it would be difficult to observe
But also, if life can't come from non-life, how did God come into existence?
Sydney wrote: "How did human beings get here?"We evolved from apes
and my organic molecules i mean building blocks to life like nucleic and amino acids
@hazelsorry to be nitpicky but since i’ve seen a lot of misinformation i thought i’d correct. we split from apes and had a common ancestor, we didn’t evolve from them
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We evolved from apes"
ok and how were those apes created? I'm not trying to interrogate you I'm genuinely asking to understand lol
victoria wrote: "@hazelsorry to be nitpicky but since i’ve seen a lot of misinformation i thought i’d correct. we split from apes and had a common ancestor, we didn’t evolve from them"
Oh yeah, thanks lol <3
it goes backwards and backwards until the last common ancestor
Sydney wrote: "Hazel (my girlfriend's version) wrote: "Sydney wrote: "How did human beings get here?"We evolved from apes"
ok and how were those apes created? I'm not trying to interrogate you I'm genuinely as..."
The apes evolved from other earlier mammals, and if you go all the way back they evolved from the aquatic early organisms that first came out of the water
basically to put it into one sentence there was a last universal common ancestor that every organism evolved from
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that's the thing. He always was. I'm not trying to back that up with scientific evidence because I can't. God is outside of science so He doesn't apply to the limits of science. My main point is everything in our world is so intricately designed. All of the systems in our body. Breathing, digesting, reproduction, circulation, everything is cohesive, how did all of that just get here by accident? A watch has a watchmaker. It doesn't just appear, someone has to create it.
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what was that one common ancestor? Sorry I'm very uneducated on this stuff, just trying to learn
then why is it wrong to say that existence always was if you can say god always was? you can’t ask us about the origin of every single thing then answer like that come on
@sydneyit was probably an extremophile, basically a cell that could live in extreme conditions
also like we're still evolving, people are getting taller, certain ethnic (panasian) groups are developing lactose tolerance, we're becoming resistant to diseases like malaria etc
exactly evolution doesn’t start or end it just happens gradually
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Im not apt in this department but I wanted to point out a few things.
Earth is not perfect for humans, and the earth moves several miles closer and farther from the sun in its yearly orbit. We are not perfect, we literally have organs that have no function or use yet love to spontaneously explode and kill us.
I’ve noticed a lot of ‘how is everything so intricate and perfect for us’ but the thing is, creationist see it as something must have built the world around us so perfect, evolutionists see it as we adapted to fit our surrounding so perfectly. The world didn’t create around us, we are adapted to fit around the world.
In addition, people have asked for evidence and all they have received is ‘well how else could things have been made?’ Which is not evidence. That’s supplying religion where science can’t explain, not evidence on its own. Please find actual evidence that supports creationism to debate so it’s not just evolutionists supplying evidence and theories.
victoria wrote: "then why is it wrong to say that existence always was if you can say god always was? you can’t ask us about the origin of every single thing then answer like that come on"^^ exactly. if you cannot provide proof for your claim beyond 'idk he just did' then why do you keep pushing against people who do give real evidence and reasoning? also when you say a watch must have a watchmaker, you are talking about a completely different science altogether, they're literally incompareable.
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yes we can. God is God, He is outside of time, space, and science. We are not, therefore we cannot go outside the limits of science. Science has not proven the theory of abiogenesis so we cannot say that we just accidentally came to be from non-life because that goes against science. Us as human beings are restricted by science. God is not.
The main topic is should evolution be taught in schools. I say yes, because all science should be taught, but it should be taught as a theory, not as an absolute. If students want to believe it then that's fine because its their decision. But there should be options, evolution is only one option and students should be allowed to decide for themselves what they want to believe in.
@ashgish galloping and moving the goal post. asking more questions than we can physically answer at once and making these questions more and more obscure
@sydneyright but it is taught as a theory because it is a theory and nobody is teaching what to believe and what not to believe in schools
