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message 51: by Susanna - Censored by GoodReads (last edited Apr 05, 2011 10:05AM) (new)

Susanna - Censored by GoodReads (susannag) | 227 comments It makes a great story. And he was a very sickly child - bad asthma.


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Thanks again so much :)


Susanna - Censored by GoodReads (susannag) | 227 comments Hope you enjoy it!


message 54: by Jennifer, Group Founder/Mod #1 (last edited Apr 19, 2011 08:51AM) (new)

Jennifer (jennifertudor) | 726 comments Mod
We've got a really fun list of people that have been mentioned!

Abraham Lincoln
Adolf Hitler
Anatasia Romanov
Anne Boleyn
Anne Frank
Barbra Villiers Palmer
Cary Grant
Catherine de Medici
Catherine of Aragon
Catherine the Great
Cleopatra
Antonín Dvorak
Dwight D. Eisenhower
Eleanor of Aquitaine
Elizabeth Tudor (Elizabeth I)
Elizabeth Woodville
Grace O'Malley
Harry Houdini
Henry VIII
Jack Kerouac
Jane Austen
Jane Grey
John F. Kennedy
Julis Ceasar
Katherine Hepburn
Katherine Howard
Katherine Parr
Lady Jane Grey
Lucrezia Borgia
Marie Antoinette
Mary Bolyen
Mary Seymour
Mary Tudor (Mary I)
Mozart and his sister, Nannerl
Queen Juana
Queen Liliuokalani
Queen Victoria
Richard I, the Lionheart
Richard III
Sarah Wincester
Sir Aurthur Wellesley, Duke of Wellington
Theodore Roosevelt
Thomas Edison
Tsar Nicholas II
Victor Hugo
Vlad the Impaler
William Shakespeare
William Tyndale and/or Martin Luther
Winston Churchill

Too bad we can't have a big gala... bring them all in :P

What do you think would happen if they were all in the same room? Who would be friends? Who would be enemies? Any love affairs? What kind of conversations would take place and between whom?

Pretend, of course, that everyone is the same age :)


message 55: by [deleted user] (new)

Hahah....I think Sarah Wincester and Harry Houdini would hit it off instantly....They are both pretty strange...
Oh! And Victor Hugo and William Shakespeare!!!!

I forgot...I would also like to meet Napoleon....


message 56: by MissJessie (new)

MissJessie Can I add to the five at dinner.....

1. Jesus.......How much of the legend, if you will, is true, and how much made up later by man? (not trying to start a religious discussion here BTW, just what I would like to know.) Second.....what about the "middle years"....did he marry, etc? What was his occupation before he became famous (in his current time)?


2 George Washington. Looking back from 2011, what does he think of what he created?

3. Franklin D. Roosevelt. Looking back from today, what does he think of the current state of the USA, which many think he created. (Social security system, government works, etc.)

4. Howard Carter. What was it like to discover Tut?

5. Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother. With her long life covering the entire 20th Century, and WWs and Princess Diana etc., her stories would be fascinating.

(first alternate) Sigmund Freud.

Cheers


message 57: by MissJessie (new)

MissJessie Everyone in the same room ....

Well, the interaction between Henry VIII and his wives and Eliz. I would be entertaining. Would the wives attack each other in jealousy or gang up on him and kick his ass? I favor the latter.

The interaction between Churchill and Hitler would be fascinating in the short term. Hitler would try to preen and peacock around, and Churchill would destroy him verbally in a very short while.

In the event they could get along, Eisenhower and Hitler might discuss military strategy; Hitler would no doubt be interested in exactly how Eisen. planned and plotted D Day and the subsequent fall of Germany in WWII.

Ann Frank would just ask Hitler WHY? Perhaps he would have a pang after meeting her. I hope so.

All the ladies of the various courts would chat up Cleopatra and try to understand her immortal beauty and mystery, after all these centuries.


message 58: by Lyn (Readinghearts), The mod of last resort/Mod #3 (new)

Lyn (Readinghearts) (lsmeadows) | 1550 comments Mod
What a great list that is. Thanks to Jen, our mistress of the lists.

I would pay to be a fly on the wall if there was a conversation between Catherine de Medici, Marie Antoinette, and Lucrezia Borgia. Seems to me that those three would have a LOT to talk about.

Wouldn't it be cool, too, to have Catherine de Medici and Diane de Villiers have a frank conversation about the things that they had in common.

Hitler and Ceasar would be another interesting conversation in my book.


message 59: by Lyn (Readinghearts), The mod of last resort/Mod #3 (new)

Lyn (Readinghearts) (lsmeadows) | 1550 comments Mod
Miss Jessie - I think your questions for Jesus are fascinating. I would like to ask him the same things.


message 60: by Lyn (Readinghearts), The mod of last resort/Mod #3 (new)

Lyn (Readinghearts) (lsmeadows) | 1550 comments Mod
Good point Maia. That is something that we don't often think about. What if we meet them and they are not at all what we expected, or even what we hoped.


message 61: by Darbus (last edited May 07, 2011 11:07PM) (new)

Darbus | 11 comments Interestingly enough, I wrote an essay on this topic once, sometime back in middle school... I think I said that I would invite Mary I, Adolf Hitler, Ramses II, and Montezuma, for the purposes of listening to their discussions regarding leadership, and also for the sake of hearing their take on (and the truth about) the myths surrounding them. Since that's only four, I'd also add Harry Truman, because knowing the exact reasoning behind the dropping of the atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki would be incredibly fascinating.


message 62: by Lyn (Readinghearts), The mod of last resort/Mod #3 (new)

Lyn (Readinghearts) (lsmeadows) | 1550 comments Mod
OOOOO, I hadn't thought about Montezuma in a long time. I would love to be at the table that you have listed above, Darbus.

If you are at all interested in Hitler, you should read Erik Larson's new book In the Garden of Beasts: Love, Terror, and an American Family in Hitler's Berlin. It is about the rise of Hitler in 1933 - 1935 through the eyes of William Dodd, who was the current ambassador to Berlin from the US. Fascinating book.


message 63: by Darbus (last edited May 09, 2011 06:47PM) (new)

Darbus | 11 comments Yeah, he's someone that I know a little bit about, but would really like to know more. The non-Western (and in this case by 'Western' I mean Europeans or those from the United States after the Europeans came) historical figures do tend to be forgotten about by many of us, don't they? Admittedly, I don't know all of the names on that awesome list, but I see about three non-Westerners.

Whoa, that does look really interesting, thanks for the recommendation.


message 64: by Lyn (Readinghearts), The mod of last resort/Mod #3 (new)

Lyn (Readinghearts) (lsmeadows) | 1550 comments Mod
I got to read an ARC of it, and thought it was a really good read. It was really interesting to read about Germany and Hitler before the invasion of Poland for a change.


message 65: by Jennifer, Group Founder/Mod #1 (new)

Jennifer (jennifertudor) | 726 comments Mod
Maia wrote: "Jane Austen, Queen Victoria, Elizabeth I, Marie Antoinette, and Eleanor of Aquitaine.

But I don't know if I'd want to meet any of them. I've built up these incredible pictures in my head; what if ..."


What a great point Maia! We've really made them all larger than life, haven't we? As much as I hate to say it, I doubt that any of them could live up to the way we see them now.


Antje གརས པཅ Parker | 10 comments All-powerful Lady and Mistress Regent of the Kingdom of Denmark, Dowager Queen and Regent of Norway and Dowager Queen and Plenipotentiary Ruler of Sweden Margaret I Valdemarsdatter: For starters she ruled Denmark in the Middle Ages, a time when Denmark did not have a tradition of allowing women to rule so, when her son died, she was named "All-powerful Lady and Mistress Regent of the Kingdom of Denmark" instead of just "Queen of the Kingdom of Denmark". Secondly she united the Kingdoms of Denmark, Norway and Sweden to create the Kalmar Union. She worked to get two of these titles, in 1373 when hen her father, Valdemar IV, died she made sure that her infant son, Olaf III of Denmark, would become king rather then her Brother in Law, Duke Henry I of Meckleburg-Schwerin. AND when her son died suddenly when he was 17 she had proven herself a good enough ruler that they kept her rather then finding another man to fill her spot. There's also the fact that she united the Nordic countries in the Kalmar Union by invading Sweden in 1389 because of the weak government of the unpopular king, Albert of Mecklenburg. She inherited the Kingdom of Norway from her son who had inherited it from her husband.

Queen Elizabeth I of England: What girl doesn't? She's a role model for thousands if not millions of girls. I'd love to meet this woman

The false king Olaf "Prussian historian Johan von Posilge reported that in 1402 a "poor sick man came to the country and stayed near the village of Grudziądz. A group of merchants from Denmark asked him if he was not well known in Denmark, since he looked very much like the late King Olaf. The merchants left to find another who had seen the king and returned with him. When the newcomer saw the one they took for Olaf, he cried out, "My lord king!" Many people especially in Norway didn't believe that Olaf had died. They thought Queen Margaret had poisoned young Olaf to get him out of the way, so she could rule. According to the rumors, young Olaf hid himself and escaped. The news reached a merchant, Tyme von der Nelow, who took the man to Gdansk. The high born of the town welcomed Olaf as the rightful King of Denmark and Norway and gave him fine clothes and presents. A seal was made for him, and he wrote to Queen Margaret informing her that he was her son and demanded the restoration of his lands and titles. Queen Margaret wrote back saying that if he could prove himself her son, she would gladly accept him.

The Grand Master of the Teutonic Knights escorted the pretender to Kalmar to be interviewed by the Queen. As soon as the man arrived he was discovered to be an impostor. He could speak not a single word of Danish and on questioning admitted he was a Prussian who was the son of peasants: Adolph and Margaret from Eger. The false Olaf was taken to Lund in Scania. There he admitted to his breach against the monarchy and was condemned to be burned at the stake. The letters he wrote to Queen Margaret were hung around his neck and a mock crown placed on his head before he was lowered into the flames. His possessions were given to a monastery, and the queen had the false Olaf's seal destroyed. The Danish National Council released a detailed explanation of the real Olaf's death in 1387 to contradict the story that had spread around the Baltic"
-Wikipedia. I'd like to know why the hell he didn't explain that he wasn't the King, didn't he know that he'd be found out? HE DIDN'T SPEAK A WORD OF DANISH!!!! I'd like to meet this idiot.

Edgar Allen Poe How did he come up with his writing?

Archduchess Maria Theresa Walburga Amalia Christina http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lFF6i... This is all that needs to be said. The Kanji basically said that England just wanted to beat up France so her bailed at the last minute XD


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