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message 551: by Ciara ᯓ ᡣ (new)

Ciara ᯓ ᡣ I really like nat that u said “ but morals over Kpop ANYTIME “ totally agree . As a person where my country was tortured by genocide. I understand the pain of people to see their loves one dies in front of them. As I don’t know for u guys ; I don’t really give attention to the history of Israel with Palestine, cuz what I care are whose children who see there family in pain , those mothers , daughters, fathers, sons , grandparents who are in pain, fear and in wish/hope for peace. I stand with whose people who have felt victims of it and I feel sorry and sad for them. i don’t really care about Eric Nam since I don’t stand him, I only recently saw him in a video in instagram and that is but that got my attention was then I heard this that he believed in zionist and since I was curious I looked it up , I NO where read a place that he was a zionist , but only his apologies letter , maybe I didn’t research it up correctly.


message 552: by amy ✫彡 (new)

amy ✫彡 (arkive) | 305 comments ♡ R a y ♡ wrote: "❃A.J❃ wrote: "I know I'm late about the clothes discussion but here's my opinion:
I feel like k-pop men get called gay and stuff because the companies make them wear such girly clothes. They are m..."


kpop idols simply breathe and then get called gay


message 553: by ruwen, ru! (new)

ruwen (lvrkoii) | 972 comments Mod
Emily wrote: "Ok so I just happened to see in another chat that the topic came up about Eric Nam being a Zionist... and I don't want to start a fight or anything (especially because it was cleared up in the othe..."

i side with palestine, but u do got a point about the treating idols like humans comment


message 554: by ruwen, ru! (new)

ruwen (lvrkoii) | 972 comments Mod
aria (taylor's version) wrote: "best company is hybe imo. (i think there was a poll about this?) i like their music better and many of their groups are very successful. as people say sm strong with vocals, jyp with dance, and yg ..."

i just really love the relationships between the hybe artists. the connection between them... *sigh*


message 555: by Emily (new)

Emily  Reed This will be my last time commenting on this topic, only because I don't want this to become bigger then I really meant it to. I just want to clear some things up that I may not have stated clearly before.

1. The second paragraph of my original comment was the opinion. It had absolutely nothing to do with the Israel/Palestine conflict.

2. The only reason I mentioned Eric Nam is because it was comments about him that made me start to think. I was not saying it was right or wrong.

I hope that clears things up a little ❤️


message 556: by [deleted user] (new)

nat wrote: "aria (taylor's version) wrote: "best company is hybe imo. (i think there was a poll about this?) i like their music better and many of their groups are very successful. as people say sm strong with..."

hybe groups are multi-talented but they aren't the best in vocals, acc to the grps I've seen New Jeans is the only all-vocal groups


message 557: by ❃A.J❃ (new)

❃A.J❃  (bibliophagist) | 1223 comments Can someone pls tell me the meaning of Zionist? I have no idea. English isn't my first language. The author of Fourth Wing also got called a Zionist.


message 558: by Emily (new)

Emily  Reed ❃A.J❃ wrote: "Can someone pls tell me the meaning of Zionist? I have no idea. English isn't my first language. The author of Fourth Wing also got called a Zionist."

this is a definition from the Oxford dictionary: "a supporter of Zionism; a person who believes in the development and protection of a Jewish nation in what is now Israel"


message 559: by [deleted user] (new)

ultvl wrote: "bro "seventeen" is literally under hybe have you seen the vocalsssss"

sorry, but I think I sated according to the groups I've observed, I don't listen much of SVT, I see mostly their reality show moments


message 560: by karina ♡, 21st century girl (new)

karina ♡ (httpjin) | 2371 comments Mod
i also like to think hybe is an all rounder

vocals: bts's vocal line, newjeans vocals, svt's vocals. rap: bts's rap line, svt's rap line, txt yeonjun. dance: JHOPE & JIMIN THE DANCE GODS/bts dance line and literally all the hybe groups are amazing at dancing

so while some other companies are much stronger in one thing than another, i think hybe is the best (my favourite) since the groups are talented in all


message 561: by [deleted user] (last edited Jan 10, 2024 09:55AM) (new)

but hybe vocals no comparison with sm


message 562: by [deleted user] (new)

not like they're bad but compared to SM, SM has more all-vocal groups


message 563: by karina ♡, 21st century girl (new)

karina ♡ (httpjin) | 2371 comments Mod
ultvl wrote: "bro "seventeen" is literally under hybe have you seen the vocalsssss"

yeahhh dk and seungkwan's vocals 😍😍


message 564: by [deleted user] (new)

karina (kenji's version) wrote: "i also like to think hybe is an all rounder

vocals: bts's vocal line, newjeans vocals, svt's vocals. rap: bts's rap line, svt's rap line, txt yeonjun. dance: JHOPE & JIMIN THE DANCE GODS/bts danc..."


HYBE and JYPE are leaders at dancinggggg istg


message 565: by [deleted user] (new)

TXT is so smoot in dance, Enhypen r soo good mann, SVT super SYCHRONIZED, BTS's dance line = SLAYY + New jeans SUPER SYNC and SMOOTH, LE SSERAFIM = FIREE and SM MORE, also HYBE is no joke when coming to synchronization (not all grps but most of them r pretty synced imo)


message 566: by ruwen, ru! (new)

ruwen (lvrkoii) | 972 comments Mod
karina (kenji's version) wrote: "ultvl wrote: "bro "seventeen" is literally under hybe have you seen the vocalsssss"

yeahhh dk and seungkwan's vocals 😍😍"


YEAHH AND JUNGKOOKKKKKKKK!! also txt's vocals (all) r no joke!!!


message 567: by [deleted user] (new)

karina (kenji's version) wrote: "ultvl wrote: "bro "seventeen" is literally under hybe have you seen the vocalsssss"

yeahhh dk and seungkwan's vocals 😍😍"


DKKK, AND PROFESSOR BOO


message 568: by ruwen, ru! (new)

ruwen (lvrkoii) | 972 comments Mod
Mehrsameesnibok10 wrote: "karina (kenji's version) wrote: "i also like to think hybe is an all rounder

vocals: bts's vocal line, newjeans vocals, svt's vocals. rap: bts's rap line, svt's rap line, txt yeonjun. dance: JHOP..."


YES have u seen bts???

and enhypen's dance re no joke!


message 569: by [deleted user] (new)

ruwen wrote: "karina (kenji's version) wrote: "ultvl wrote: "bro "seventeen" is literally under hybe have you seen the vocalsssss"

yeahhh dk and seungkwan's vocals 😍😍"

YEAHH AND JUNGKOOKKKKKKKK!! also txt's vo..."


TXT true, and enha too, Jay, Sunoo omo, and yeahhh JK has good vocals as a male


message 570: by [deleted user] (last edited Jan 10, 2024 10:00AM) (new)

ruwen wrote: "Mehrsameesnibok10 wrote: "karina (kenji's version) wrote: "i also like to think hybe is an all rounder

vocals: bts's vocal line, newjeans vocals, svt's vocals. rap: bts's rap line, svt's rap line..."


I've been an ARMY for 2 years, ENHA ARE ALL GOOD DANCERS, but they're not very in sync (which is fine) imo


message 571: by karina ♡, 21st century girl (new)

karina ♡ (httpjin) | 2371 comments Mod
ruwen wrote: "karina (kenji's version) wrote: "ultvl wrote: "bro "seventeen" is literally under hybe have you seen the vocalsssss"

yeahhh dk and seungkwan's vocals 😍😍"

YEAHH AND JUNGKOOKKKKKKKK!! also txt's vo..."


LETS NOT FORGET ABOUT JUNGKOOKS VOCALS 😌😍


message 572: by [deleted user] (new)

I still am but I pay a little attention, still love my bangtan boysss


message 573: by ruwen, ru! (new)

ruwen (lvrkoii) | 972 comments Mod
Mehrsameesnibok10 wrote: "ruwen wrote: "karina (kenji's version) wrote: "ultvl wrote: "bro "seventeen" is literally under hybe have you seen the vocalsssss"

yeahhh dk and seungkwan's vocals 😍😍"

YEAHH AND JUNGKOOKKKKKKKK!!..."


y'all jk!! not good just because he's good as a male, he's just exceedingly good 🤓☝️☝️


message 574: by [deleted user] (new)

ruwen wrote: "Mehrsameesnibok10 wrote: "ruwen wrote: "karina (kenji's version) wrote: "ultvl wrote: "bro "seventeen" is literally under hybe have you seen the vocalsssss"

yeahhh dk and seungkwan's vocals 😍😍"

Y..."


no I mean, like his vocals r exceeding not cuz he male but he's in males, cuz they're voices have low range, I mean it in that sense


message 575: by karina ♡, 21st century girl (new)

karina ♡ (httpjin) | 2371 comments Mod
ultvl wrote: "y'all are forgetting joshua and jeoghan ˚✧₊⁎❝᷀ົ≀ˍ̮ ❝᷀ົ⁎⁺˳✧"

omg yeah!!


message 576: by [deleted user] (new)

ultvl wrote: "y'all are forgetting joshua and jeoghan ˚✧₊⁎❝᷀ົ≀ˍ̮ ❝᷀ົ⁎⁺˳✧"

BRO JOSHUA ISTG HIS DARUMDARIMDA LONG LIVE, HIS CALM VOICEE, JUN AND ISTG ALL 13 OF EM'


message 577: by ❃A.J❃ (new)

❃A.J❃  (bibliophagist) | 1223 comments I feel like instead of being fans of the company we should just focus on appreciating the idols more. I understand the fact that it's possible to like artists from a certain company better but honestly, all the companies have their pros and cons. SM also has a really bad reputation for not paying their idols. That was also the issue with EXO.


message 578: by ❃A.J❃ (new)

❃A.J❃  (bibliophagist) | 1223 comments From what I have heard JYP is the best among the top 4.


message 579: by Emily (new)

Emily  Reed ❃A.J❃ wrote: "I feel like instead of being fans of the company we should just focus on appreciating the idols more. I understand the fact that it's possible to like artists from a certain company better but hone..."

Totally agree!


message 580: by karina ♡, 21st century girl (last edited Jan 10, 2024 02:43PM) (new)

karina ♡ (httpjin) | 2371 comments Mod
okay so guys. all companies have good all-rounder idols. u can't just say one company has the real all-rounders because yeah? so what? the rest of the companies also have all-rounders. hybe has the best dancers? okay and? but there's also good dancers in other companies. sm has the best vocalist? uhh okay... they're idols. they're...singers. and no, all companies have great vocalist. okay yeah. all companies are another level of great in their own styles and yes u can have your favorite, but lets not just compare different companies and say one is better and another one SUCKS. again, u can have ur favorite and ur order, but they're all IDOLS and they're all great. jyp is awesome, hybe is awesome, sm is awesome, yg is awesome, and those less-known companies are awesome. all companies have their pros and obviously cons.
i guess u shouldn't say that one is the best. it's ur opinion but then again, this is the drop an unpopular opinion discussion, but it's not the fact. let's all just accept that all companies have great idols who excel in all categories because they have the talent and they did train for years so...


message 581: by karina ♡, 21st century girl (new)

karina ♡ (httpjin) | 2371 comments Mod
❃A.J❃ wrote: "From what I have heard JYP is the best among the top 4."

most groups have been doing amazing


message 582: by ruwen, ru! (new)

ruwen (lvrkoii) | 972 comments Mod
aj and karina got a point. all companies are great. let's all appreciate the idols instead! and yeah a company will always have they're pros and cons, there is no such thing as a company that is the "real" best, it's all just personal opinions.


message 583: by karina ♡, 21st century girl (new)

karina ♡ (httpjin) | 2371 comments Mod
ruwen wrote: "aj and karina got a point. all companies are great. let's all appreciate the idols instead! and yeah a company will always have they're pros and cons, there is no such thing as a company that is th..."

yes, like there is no real best omfgg lets not just limit it to one company 😮‍💨


message 584: by ❃A.J❃ (new)

❃A.J❃  (bibliophagist) | 1223 comments I just read an article saying that Seventeen dethroned BTS from their #1 position of K-pop groups brand value ranking.


message 585: by ❃A.J❃ (new)

❃A.J❃  (bibliophagist) | 1223 comments And no hate to Seventeen but I'm kinda sad because BTS are my ults <3


message 586: by ❃A.J❃ (new)

❃A.J❃  (bibliophagist) | 1223 comments But ig it makes sense since all members are in the army now and haven't released a group song in very long.


message 587: by karina ♡, 21st century girl (new)

karina ♡ (httpjin) | 2371 comments Mod
oh yeah, i get that and sometimes i feel that way too. but bts did have that position for a surprisingly long 5 years and they do hold a lot of other big records.
svt winning that makes me feel proud too


message 588: by karina ♡, 21st century girl (new)

karina ♡ (httpjin) | 2371 comments Mod
❃A.J❃ wrote: "But ig it makes sense since all members are in the army now and haven't released a group song in very long."

also that, they haven't been as a group for such a long time (well for me)! but the members themselves are also doing really well individually and it makes me so happy


message 589: by ❃A.J❃ (new)

❃A.J❃  (bibliophagist) | 1223 comments I agree! <3
Five Years is a very long time. THEY ARE THE KINGS IN MY OPINION!! <33


message 590: by rae₇⁷₇ (new)

rae₇⁷₇ (ilovejungkook) | 1168 comments same, im kinda sad but its been some time and the members are doing just as good as soloists!! :)) and congrats to svt!! i love how theyre doing so great <33


message 591: by rae₇⁷₇ (new)

rae₇⁷₇ (ilovejungkook) | 1168 comments AND CONGRATS TO BTS TAEHYUNG FOR BECOMING THE FIFTH MEMBER TO REACH BILLBOARD CHART!!! :)))


message 592: by amy ✫彡 (new)

amy ✫彡 (arkive) | 305 comments YEAH! CONGRATS


message 593: by amy ✫彡 (new)

amy ✫彡 (arkive) | 305 comments unpopular opinion- there's no such thing as the "next bts" or the "next blackpink"


message 594: by Emily (new)

Emily  Reed I agree with Nat, I don't think anyone could really replace them. But I also would like to say that as we get into each generation some may fade slightly and others will rise up ykwim? BTS and BP will always be legends in the K-pop world.


message 595: by karina ♡, 21st century girl (new)

karina ♡ (httpjin) | 2371 comments Mod
maybe amy wrote: "unpopular opinion- there's no such thing as the "next bts" or the "next blackpink""

yeah i agree, i don't think there'll ever be a group that will peak like bts & blackpink.


message 596: by karina ♡, 21st century girl (new)

karina ♡ (httpjin) | 2371 comments Mod
❃A.J❃ wrote: "I agree! <3
Five Years is a very long time. THEY ARE THE KINGS IN MY OPINION!! <33"


YESS!! KINGSSSSSSS 4L <333333


aria (jimin's version) (btsarmy) | 1031 comments maybe amy wrote: "unpopular opinion- there's no such thing as the "next bts" or the "next blackpink""

I AGREE.


faith (skz's version) | 2390 comments ❃A.J❃ wrote: "Not a hater. But I feel like Blackpink is overrated. I love some of their songs but I feel like most of them are kinda weird and meaningless. D4 and Lalisa for example. Also, the fandom is super to..."

i know


message 599: by Bartholomew (new)

Bartholomew  | 18 comments The way that some people get so mad when someone doesn't like certain groups' music is ridiculous.
I've seen a lot of comments recently, most of them from stray kids and bts fans, getting all pressed because their group wasn't mentioned or was brought up in a joke. The original posts weren't meant to be hateful, all the poster has said is that they don't care for their music, but these people act like skz and bts have music that is just objectively good to everyone and if you don't like them then you don't like kpop.
No music is objectively good. Everyone has different taste. Both my favourite genres have this problem where a segment of the fanbase acts like their specific taste is superior, attacking anyone who expresses a different opinion, and it's just incredibly toxic and unnecessary.


faith (skz's version) | 2390 comments maybe amy wrote: "unpopular opinion- there's no such thing as the "next bts" or the "next blackpink""

yeah but like personally i don't like their music much so i think there are some groups reaching up there like stray kids and twice


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