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message 1: by Tia (last edited Mar 16, 2022 07:53AM) (new)

Tia Ja'nae (articulatemadness) | 11 comments Mod

This group is inspired by authors like Charles Bukowski, Jackie Collins, Donald Goines, and others who never would have gotten a book deal or been able to show their face on social media for giving very graphic descriptions of crime, sex, and other "uncomfortable" adult themes.  If you're up to it we recommend you give them a read as some of their works are on Open Library.


OUR MISSION: To build a reliable bookshelf-database of Crime Fiction, Indie Fiction, Science Fiction, Erotica, and all other books that MENTION and REVEL in cursing, sex, criminal activities of all kinds, violence, dubious sexual consent, and other adult themes that go with the theme of the book we're reading without ZERO warnings. The term "trigger" is a bad word in this group.

After all, we're fucking ADULTS.






What about other ways authors and readers can do better?

We acknowledge that there are many other areas where readers and authors can do better. The first is to resist this social justice warrior polticial correctness bullshit.  If you read something that deeply disturbs your soul, just PUT IT DOWN.  Just because you don't like it doesn't mean somebody else won't, and that the author who wrote it should be shamed into insolvency in their writing career because it didn't sit well with YOU.  In most fiction we read over the age of 18 sex, drugs, violence, depression, madness, and other tropes are commonly used plot devices relegating human experiences we ALL see, know, and hear daily that some authors and readers shouldn't be shocked at.  We're adults - NO TRIGGER WARNINGS. Other authors and readers are simply tired of this continuous censorship attack on books.

Our group will:
Include books with outdated views and stereotypes of gender, race, sexuality and ability IF they ARE acknowledged/embraced within the book even if we do not personally like or agree with them. As a result, you will see as many older fiction titles of our bookshelf from the good old days before this politically correct censorship crap.

Will NOT Provide content warning tags on our bookshelf for other common forms of disturbing content.  You're an ADULT, act like it.  Again, if the book ain't your cup of tea, PUT IT DOWN and go on with your life.


BOOKSHELF SUBMISSIONS:

All members are welcome to suggest books to be added to the group's bookshelves. To qualify a book must:

1. Belong to any of the FICTION genres (this includes POETRY, CRIME FICTION, SPECULATIVE FICTION, SCIENCE FICTION, and others).

2. Be considered Adult, no Young Adult

3. Contain Adult Themes


Drug Usage and Drug Dealing (America’s lifeblood literally ARE DRUGS)

Violence of any kind (It happens from Prison to the Boardroom people!)

Rape (Even Maya Angelou discusses rape in graphic detail from her perspective in I Know Why The Caged Bird Sings)

The ongoing threat of rape (Yes, it happens, especially in Prison Literature.)

Unwanted and unsolicited body contact of an openly sexual nature (Again, it happens.)


Child sexual abuse/pedophile characters (Yes, it happens, especially in every slave book that has EVER been written. What would Mandingo by Kyle Onslott be without it?)

Dubious sexual consent - threats, drugs, slavery and other situations where no consent can be given (Yes, it happens. What would a book like Memoirs of a Geisha be without it?)  

Cursing (The word fuck is the only word in the English language that is a proper and common noun, verb, adverb, adjective, and conjunction.)

General Criminal Activity (if this disturbs you however do you read history or watch the news?)

Racism, Sexism, Segregationism, Discriminationism, LGBTQQAIophobia, Misogyny, Male Bashing, or any other social construct that hurts the Karens and Chads politically correct feelings.  Life is FILLED with different experiences – READ THEM and learn something about the world.



4. Have not already been added to our bookshelf

Also, please avoid suggesting books where sexism, racism, homophobia or transphobia are included and NOT acknowledged/condemned



A NOTE ON ACCURACY:

All books will be vetted by a moderator before being added to the bookshelves

⭐⭐ If you notice a book that shouldn't be on the shelves, please speak up and state the reasons


CONTENT WARNING:

This group's bookshelf only includes works that contain adult themes – we don’t care if the politically correct crowd find them disturbing.  We are all FUCKING ADULTS, so act like it.  Read it and if it isn’t your cup of tea BE A FUCKING ADULT and put it down.  We will not put Content Warning tags on our shelves.  We will, however, put genre tags so you at least will know where the work in question falls under.  We’re not tricking anyone into reading anything, but we don’t want to force any genre on anyone by trickery.  We will attempt to give a fully comprehensive genre list but we make no promises.  We strongly encourage our members to be as specific as possible and to use GR’s genre tagging to find genres right for you.





WANT TO SEE THE BOOKS WE'VE EXCLUDED?
We keep a list of books that we've excluded/removed from our bookshelves and the reason for the exclusion. The list is HERE



 







1) What Types of Books Should I Recommend & How?
Suggest books that you've recently read and believe meet our group recommendation guidelines listed above. Include details of why you think it fits.

You have two options for participating:

1) Join our monthly chat where we share everything we've recently read, both suitable and unsuitable for the group. The latest chat can be found HERE

2) Post your recommendations anytime on our general recommendation thread.

Once a month, the moderators research and validate all member's recommendations and post an update. Once a month, all of the books that meet our group guidelines are added to the bookshelf-database. We are thankful for all recommendations, whether they end up meeting our guidelines or not 🤗









message 2: by Tia (last edited Mar 16, 2022 07:36AM) (new)

Tia Ja'nae (articulatemadness) | 11 comments Mod

3) What Qualifies as Adult Content?
An comfortable question no doubt for FUCKING ADULTS, but one we needed to answer in order to provide you with guidelines. Many of us feel that there is too much censorship from self-appointed politically correct people trying to police adults as if we were their children.  Adulthood by definition is the state or condition of being fully grown or mature.  As we are mature we tend to want to read about MATURE THEMES.

And as we are an anti-censorship focused group, we will exclude any works or authors that do not fall within our guidelines of freedom of speech and expression.


4) What Qualifies as Unacknowledged Sexism, Racism, Homophobia, Transphobia etc?

We INCLUDE books with outdated stereotypes deemed sexist, racist, LGBTQQAIophobic, heterosexualphobic, transphobic and contain other adult views that are NOT acknowledged/condemned within the book. This means many older fiction will be included.

**Please don't be offended if your recommendation is declined based on these reasons. In return, you will not be judged by us. We're here to educate and be educated. As readers, we are all constantly learning and growing. Not everyone is at the same point in their journey. **

We DO NOT INCLUDE books that explore these themes. Our goal is to provide a space for free thinking adults to read new material on our bookshelf-database so that members can enjoy adult content without being scolded like a petulent child by self-appointed censorship police.


5) What Are HashTags and How Do I Use Them?
When explaining the genre of a book's plot or adult themed content, we request that you use hashtags tags. These hashtags allow for our members to see exactly what they're reading and if it falls in place with their taste. 

To make a hashtag simply use the sharp sign # followed by the genre.  Example: #Erotica #SpeculativeFiction #CrimeFiction.  Use as many as the book's themes include.


This group's bookshelf only includes works that contain adult themes – we don’t care if the politically correct crowd find them disturbing.  We are all FUCKING ADULTS, so act like it.  Read it and if it isn’t your cup of tea BE A FUCKING ADULT and put it down.  We will not put Content Warning tags on our shelves.  We will, however, put genre tags so you at least will know where the work in question falls under.  We’re not tricking anyone into reading anything, but we don’t want to force any genre on anyone by trickery.  We will attempt to give a fully comprehensive genre list but we make no promises.  We strongly encourage our members to be as specific as possible and to use GR’s genre tagging to find genres right for you.



6) How Do I View Which Books Are Already Included or Excluded?

Books that have been recommended and INCLUDED are located in the group bookshelf-database that will be featured.

Books that have been recommend and EXCLUDED are not added to the bookshelf database. Instead, we compile a list of books that were excluded along with the reasons why. There is one list located.




7) Why Does the Group Not Include Books With Other Forms of Non-Adult Themed Content?

Firstly, many authors and readers are tired of a select minority policing content.  We’re ALL FUCKING ADULTS.  If you want to be spoonfed and censored on what you should read based on the preconceived notions of the politically correct crowd there are plenty of groups on GoodReads for that.  We are simply tired of seeing the same dead censorship horse being beat and stifling great books.  It’s one thing if it deals with a part of history that maybe wasn’t savory, like history; ignoring and censoring it won’t erase it happening then OR now. 



Secondly, there are many ways that authors can do better. Creating a list of books that include most adult themes would be a monumental task and would likely result in an unorganized list. As the group grows, we do hope to identify and celebrate the great books that uncompromisingly told a story without a fear of being shamed for its content, whether or not all members like the subject matter.

And while we don’t include books that do not feature adult content, we do flag some of the more lighter adult themed books on our bookshelf database. All shelf tags that start with "a" list genre tags for the book. Please note, our adult themed list are the most common and are not an exhaustive list. If you have specific triggers, be a fucking ADULT and put the book down if it doesn’t mesh with your taste.  This is why we specifically list the genres so you know what you’re getting into.


 


8) Where Can I Find Adult Themed Books That Are Not Censored OR Have Trigger Warnings?
We recommend using goodreads review search. Do not use any keywords like "warning" as this usually brings up members that provide laundry lists of content warnings in their reviews which we steadfastly do not agree with. Find fiction you like with the genre you prefer and READ IT then review.




9) What Should I Do If I Don't Think a Specific Book Belongs on the Group Bookshelf?

First, please ensure you have read our full group mission, submission guidelines and this FAQ

If you still feel the book does not meet our submission guidelines, please share your detailed concerns in our recommendation thread.
We value your opinion and will thoroughly research reviews & other sources. We have no qualms about removing books when new information comes to light.


10) Why is This Group Public, Wouldn't Private Be Better?

To ensure that our group and it's bookshelf-database is accessible and eventually appears in Google search results, the group must be set to public. The moderators will be vigilant with trolls and bots. Please keep mind that your comments will be visible to all non-members.

PRO TIP: There is a Goodreads setting where you can ensure your all of your comments in any public group are NOT added to your Goodreads feed.

>Go to Account Settings
>Select Feeds
>Ensure that 'Comment on a book or discussion' is unchecked


NOTE: This will not turn off your comments on other's book reviews, that is a different setting


11) Does This Group Read Books Together?

As a very new group, we do not have enough active members to facilitate regular group reads. In the future, when the group has hopefully grown, we will survey members to see if this is something they'd like us to do together. In the meantime, you're welcome to join other groups that don't censor and don't discriminate books, authors, or discussion based on content. Note, they are public groups that you can easily join.

Indie Crime Fiction- Writers and Readers of Independent Crime Fiction
Literary Fiction By People Of Color - Celebrating good uncensored fiction across the board by all persons of color.


12) What is 'Pending'?

These are books that are recommended by a member, but there is insufficient information available for moderators to perform our validation. These books are add to our Pending List.  Active members are invited to read, validate content and cast the deciding vote on whether the book should be added to the group's bookshelf-database

Reasons books are added to the Pending List:


1) Outlier Reviews - A very low number of GR reviews contradict a much higher number of reviews in regards to content

2) Insufficient Reviews: Books with less than 5 written reviews on GR


13) Can I Recommend an Entire Series?


Our group does not discriminate against series as most of our favorite authors suggested write in the same universe. We encourage you to note if it is a series; this helps further the bookshelf list and allows authors and readers a chance to present and explore the universe of those books.

The Series Guidelines
Members may recommend the series of books. A moderator will validate both editions to confirm they meet the adult themed content guidelines.


∆ If all editions meet our guidelines, both will be added to the bookshelf
∆ If either edition doesn't meet our guidelines, a notation will be added
∆ If a member reports that specific later edition does not contain adult themes and went social justice warrior politically correct brewhaha, we will remove the series


 


14) Does The Group Exclude Any Authors?

Yes, this group will exclude authors who:


1) Are social justice warrior politically correct self-representative pro-censorship mouthpieces.
2) Have been found guilty/admitted to acts of being politically correct and pro-censorship.


Full details on the Author Rules and the list of pending/excluded authors is available here.


 


15) The Group Description Says “Adult” does that mean you don't allow YA?

In general, this group is focused on books for adults with adult characters. However, we acknowledge that some YA is more adult in its content and tone. Members are welcome to suggest YA books without SV that they feel are more adult focused in their theme and style that are closely mirrored to characters that are at least sixteen years old.

Moderators will decide on a case by case basis. They will not approve the more "typical" YA that spends the majority of the narrative focused on an MC's coming of age, special skills, personality, fashion, romantic relationships, friendship issues. Moderators will approve YA that is more mature in its outlook and focuses on the issues of the world in which it is set.

Examples of books we exclude: Swamp Man, Forever, Coffee Will Make You Black




message 3: by James (new)

James Lilley | 1 comments Mod
Thanks for the invite… Looking forward to having a free uncensored no warning shelf


message 4: by Alec (new)

Alec Cizak | 1 comments Mod
Tia Ja'nae wrote: "3) What Qualifies as Adult Content? An comfortable question no doubt for FUCKING ADULTS, but one we needed to answer in order to provide you with guidelines. Many of us feel that there is too much ..."

Looking forward to discussing and learning about REAL literature!


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