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message 1: by Michelle (new)

Michelle (michelle_crowley) | 15 comments Mod
(during chapter 5): Using your book, skim back through chapter 5 and cite examples/evidence that begin to show a change in the pigs and their increasing power.


message 2: by Eden (new)

Eden | 9 comments "Tactics, comrades, tactics! skipping round and whisking his tail with a merry laugh. The animals were not certain what the word meant, but Squealer spoke so persuasively, and the three dogs who happened to be with him growled so threateningly, that they accepted his explanation without further questions." This excerpt demonstrates the fear induced obedience on the animals from the pigs and dogs. Even if they don't agree with the pigs they can't voice their opinions which undermines the supposed rule that all animals are equal


message 3: by Ellinore (new)

Ellinore Duncan | 18 comments "He had always intended on building the windmill" This shows that napoleon is willing to lie in order to grow more power.
When the dogs chase snowball away, this scene shows that napoleon would risk animals lives in order to grow in power and maintain complete control over the farm.


message 4: by Ellinore (new)

Ellinore Duncan | 18 comments Eden wrote: ""Tactics, comrades, tactics! skipping round and whisking his tail with a merry laugh. The animals were not certain what the word meant, but Squealer spoke so persuasively, and the three dogs who ha..."
I agree that this shows how the pigs will stop at nothing to gain more power.


message 5: by Tyler (new)

Tyler Skousen | 18 comments "Silent and terrified, the animals crept back into the barn. In a moment the dogs came bounding back. at first no one had been able to imagine where these creatures came from, but the problem was soon solved: they were the puppies whom Napoleon had taken away from their mothers and reared privately." This shows that the pigs were gaining power because the dogs had been taken by the pigs and taught to be scary killing machines


message 6: by Victoria (new)

Victoria | 7 comments Napoleon is willing to lie to the animals to gain power and control over the farm when he states "he had always intended on building the windmill."


message 7: by Alexander (new)

Alexander | 9 comments "Napoleon, with Squealer and another pig named Minimus... sat on the front of the raised platform... with the rest of the pigs sitting from behind, The rest of the animals sat facing them in the main body of the barn." Notice how most of Napoleon's close associates are all pigs, as well as the fact that the pigs have a different seating area than that of the other animals. This displays the farm slowly favoring the pigs themselves.


message 8: by Aira (new)

Aira (airavalera) | 21 comments "Boxer, who had now had time to think things over, voiced the general feeling by saying: "If Comrade Napoleon says it, it must be right." (Orwell 70)."

This quote shows how the pigs are slowly increasing in power by convincing the animals that their word (specifically Napoleon) is absolute, right, and just.


message 9: by Aira (new)

Aira (airavalera) | 21 comments Eden wrote: ""Tactics, comrades, tactics! skipping round and whisking his tail with a merry laugh. The animals were not certain what the word meant, but Squealer spoke so persuasively, and the three dogs who ha..."

I agree with this because this clearly shows how the pigs are rising to power with force by the threat of physical harm to those animals who don't agree.


message 10: by Aira (new)

Aira (airavalera) | 21 comments Tyler wrote: ""Silent and terrified, the animals crept back into the barn. In a moment the dogs came bounding back. at first no one had been able to imagine where these creatures came from, but the problem was..."

I agree with this because the pigs are becoming so hungry with power and are desperate to keep it by kidnapping puppies and teaching them to be threatening, killing machines.


message 11: by Taylor (new)

Taylor Buer | 21 comments "They kept close to Napoleon. It was noticed that they wagged their tails to him in the same way as the other dogs had been used to do to Mr. Jones."


message 12: by Taylor (new)

Taylor Buer | 21 comments Mike wrote: ""Silent and terrified, the animals crept back into the barn." "If Comrade Napoleon says it, it must be right.""

The fact that Boxer believes everything Napoleon says is true shows how much trust and power they give to the pigs on the farm


message 13: by Taylor (new)

Taylor Buer | 21 comments Victoria wrote: "Napoleon is willing to lie to the animals to gain power and control over the farm when he states "he had always intended on building the windmill.""

When Napoleon shows his intent on building the windmill it shows that his problem wasn't with building the windmill, it was with sharing his power with Snowball.


message 14: by Kristina (new)

Kristina | 8 comments Eden wrote: ""Tactics, comrades, tactics! skipping round and whisking his tail with a merry laugh. The animals were not certain what the word meant, but Squealer spoke so persuasively, and the three dogs who ha..."
I agree with edens post and quote because you see the shift in leadership qualities right when Napoleon gets rid of Snowball and starts to become more powerful.


message 15: by Jerry (new)

Jerry Star | 14 comments "But suddenly the dogs sitting round Napoleon let out deep, menacing growls, and the pigs fell silent and sat down again."


message 16: by Jerry (new)

Jerry Star | 14 comments Eden wrote: ""Tactics, comrades, tactics! skipping round and whisking his tail with a merry laugh. The animals were not certain what the word meant, but Squealer spoke so persuasively, and the three dogs who ha..."
I agree with Eden because you see how Napoleon is using Squealer to persuade the rest of the animals to follow Napoleon's orders. Napoleon starts asserting his power immediately after Snowball was kicked out.


message 17: by Riley (new)

Riley Herman | 23 comments "Squealer spoke so persuasively, and the three dogs who happened to be with him growled so threateningly, that they accepted his explanation without further questions." This shows that the pigs are trying to intimidate the other animals so they are too afraid to go against whatever the pigs say.


message 18: by Riley (new)

Riley Herman | 23 comments Victoria wrote: "Napoleon is willing to lie to the animals to gain power and control over the farm when he states "he had always intended on building the windmill.""
I also believe that the fact that Napoleon is so willing to lie shows that they will do and say whatever it takes to gain as much power as they can.


message 19: by Riley (new)

Riley Herman | 23 comments Tyler wrote: ""Silent and terrified, the animals crept back into the barn. In a moment the dogs came bounding back. at first no one had been able to imagine where these creatures came from, but the problem was..."
I agree that Napoleon was using the intimidating dogs to use the fear of the other animals to his advantage, knowing that the other animals would be too afraid to question anything.


message 20: by Brian (new)

Brian Nguyen SquarePants | 21 comments “Napoleon is always right.” Boxer, being one of the most hard-working animals within the Animal Farm is slowly being manipulated by the Pigs as he believes that his leader is always right. As the pigs get higher in power within the animal farm, the pigs start to influence the animal, eliminate their free will, begins an oppressive society.


message 21: by Brian (new)

Brian Nguyen SquarePants | 21 comments Eden wrote: ""Tactics, comrades, tactics! skipping round and whisking his tail with a merry laugh. The animals were not certain what the word meant, but Squealer spoke so persuasively, and the three dogs who ha..."

I agree with what Eden said about how the pigs begin to be ruthless with their power, not allowing any animals to voice their opinions in any sort of situation.


message 22: by Brian (new)

Brian Nguyen SquarePants | 21 comments Tyler wrote: ""Silent and terrified, the animals crept back into the barn. In a moment the dogs came bounding back. at first no one had been able to imagine where these creatures came from, but the problem was..."

I agree with what Tyler said about how the pigs used the dogs to their advantage and that the animals are too scared to express how they feel in exchange for their own lives.


message 23: by Katie (new)

Katie Solliday | 20 comments ""Tactics, comrades, tactics!" skipping round and whisking his tail with a merry laugh. The animals were not certain what the word meant, but Squealer spoke so persuasively, and the three dogs who happened to be with him growled so threateningly, that they accepted his explanation without further questions." The pigs have everyone on their side, including the dogs who will threaten the others to conform to them. They are obviously smother than the other animals, using tactics they read to trick the others. They can convince the other animals to do practically anything they want, making them superior.


message 24: by Katie (new)

Katie Solliday | 20 comments Riley wrote: ""Squealer spoke so persuasively, and the three dogs who happened to be with him growled so threateningly, that they accepted his explanation without further questions." This shows that the pigs are..."

I agree that the animals use strategies to inflict fear in the animals to make them agree with what they say. I also believe that the pigs used rhetorical strategies to make the others believe them.


message 25: by Katie (new)

Katie Solliday | 20 comments Eden wrote: ""Tactics, comrades, tactics! skipping round and whisking his tail with a merry laugh. The animals were not certain what the word meant, but Squealer spoke so persuasively, and the three dogs who ha..."

I agree that the pigs are smart enough to use fear to rule. It was also a good point that this shows that all animals are not created equal, proving that the pigs are gaining more power.


message 26: by Scottie (new)

Scottie Poulsen | 11 comments Michelle wrote: "(during chapter 5): Using your book, skim back through chapter 5 and cite examples/evidence that begin to show a change in the pigs and their increasing power."

Napoleon lies to the animals about the windmill to gain their trust.


message 27: by Tyler (new)

Tyler Skousen | 18 comments Katie wrote: """Tactics, comrades, tactics!" skipping round and whisking his tail with a merry laugh. The animals were not certain what the word meant, but Squealer spoke so persuasively, and the three dogs who ..."

I agree with Katie because with the dogs and the persuasion they are able to change the rules to make their own lives better.


message 28: by J.r. (new)

J.r. Holloway | 8 comments Eden wrote: ""Tactics, comrades, tactics! skipping round and whisking his tail with a merry laugh. The animals were not certain what the word meant, but Squealer spoke so persuasively, and the three dogs who ha..."
I agree with Eden with the pigs starting to be very pursuasive and manipulating the other animals with their ignorance.


message 29: by Brandon (new)

Brandon | 6 comments Taylor wrote: ""They kept close to Napoleon. It was noticed that they wagged their tails to him in the same way as the other dogs had been used to do to Mr. Jones.""
This is the first comparison of between human and pig. So obviously things will go downhill. And this certainly isn't the last time human and pig will be compared


message 30: by Vianella (new)

Vianella Burns | 10 comments Riley wrote: ""Squealer spoke so persuasively, and the three dogs who happened to be with him growled so threateningly, that they accepted his explanation without further questions." This shows that the pigs are..."
I agree with what Riley said,the fact that the animals just agree with what the pigs are saying without a second thought shows how much power they have gained over the months that they've been in control of the farm.


message 31: by Vianella (new)

Vianella Burns | 10 comments "Boxer, who had now had time to think things over, voiced the general feeling by saying: "If Comrade Napoleon says it, it must be right."


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