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Lillian Morales (LillianMorales) | 46 comments Mod
Archetypes are figures or patterns recurring in works of the imagination, and can be divided into three categories.

Archetypal characters include (but are not limited to): the hero, the villain, the outcast, the femme fatale, and the star-crossed lovers.

Archetypal situations include (but are not limited to): the quest, the journal, death and rebirth, and the task.

Archetypal symbols and associations include polarities: light/dark, water/desert, height/depth, spring/winter.

For this discussion, you will post 1 example of an Archetypal character, 1 example of an Archetypal situation, and 1 example for an Archetypal symbol based on you knowledge of myths, films, books, cartoons, sitcoms, art, music, etc. You must describe each example and explain how they relate to the whole work.

Ex. An example of an archetypal character is Pony Boy in the film The Outsiders. He is a young man from a very poor area. He is described in the film as a greaser and hangs out with other greasers. People treat them like they are scum. This archetype allows us to understand that the outsiders are of often misunderstood and a product of bigger issue in society.


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Melissa Martinez (melimeli) William Faulkner
The Archetypal character is Emily, in the story of "A Rose for Emily." The story was based on her life from her father protect her from men to putting her into her grave. However, Emily's life was not as simple, because the towns people will talked about her from her back. The Towns people were sercetly jugding her by her appears, behavior, and independent. In fact, the more people thought the more they get scared from her mood swings to them and the police."They waited until Miss Emily as decently in the gound before they opened it." This arhetype allows te reader to undersatnd that A Rose for Emily is alone but also a misunderstood person.


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Kirsten Nelson | 62 comments The Archetypal character in the movie Holes is Stanley Yelnats IV who is portrayed as the hero. Yelnats finds many pieces of missing treasure in boot camp that the wardens, which are the villains, were looking for. At the end of the movie, Yelnats defeated the villains. This archetype allows us to understand that villains get defeated.

The Archetypal quest in the movie/book Holes is the challenges Yelnats had to go through because his family was cursed. Yelnats was sent to boot camp. In boot camp, he learned that Zero was the reason why Yelnats got punishment. Zero is madame zaroni family member (the lady who put the curse in Yelnats family). This quickly became Yelnats fate because he was given the chance to brake the family curse. This archetype allows us to understand that we should apply knowledge through the experiences we go through.

The archetypal symbol is the name of the boot camp, which is, Camp Green Lake. Years ago, Camp Green Lake use to be a lake. Then, the lake dried up, it would never rain, so it became a dessert. When the villains got deafeted, it rained for the first time in century's. This archetype allows us to understand that rain can bring things back to life.


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Lillian Morales (LillianMorales) | 46 comments Mod
For this discussion, you will post 1 example of an Archetypal character, 1 example of an Archetypal situation, and 1 example for an Archetypal symbol based on you knowledge of myths, films, books, cartoons, sitcoms, art, music, etc. You must describe each example and explain how they relate to the whole work.


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Lillian Morales (LillianMorales) | 46 comments Mod
Kirsten wrote: "The Archetypal character in the book/movie Holes is Stanley Yelnats IV who is portrayed as the hero. He believed his family was cursed by madame zaroni; therefore, Yelnats had to go though many cha..."


For this discussion, you will post 1 example of an Archetypal character, 1 example of an Archetypal situation, and 1 example for an Archetypal symbol based on you knowledge of myths, films, books, cartoons, sitcoms, art, music, etc. You must describe each example and explain how they relate to the whole work.


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Lillian Morales (LillianMorales) | 46 comments Mod
Monique wrote: "An example of an archetypal character is Scar from the film “The Lion King”. He is a villain on the quest for power over the pride land. In order to achieve this, he decided the only way was to ki..."

For this discussion, you will post 1 example of an Archetypal character, 1 example of an Archetypal situation, and 1 example for an Archetypal symbol based on you knowledge of myths, films, books, cartoons, sitcoms, art, music, etc. You must describe each example and explain how they relate to the whole work.


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Lillian Morales (LillianMorales) | 46 comments Mod
Melissa wrote: "William Faulkner
The Archetypal character is Emily, in the story of "A Rose for Emily." The story was based on her life from her father protect her from men to putting her into her gr..."


For this discussion, you will post 1 example of an Archetypal character, 1 example of an Archetypal situation, and 1 example for an Archetypal symbol based on you knowledge of myths, films, books, cartoons, sitcoms, art, music, etc. You must describe each example and explain how they relate to the whole work.


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Rosie Castillo | 61 comments An example of an archetypal character is Lex Luthor from the movie Superman. He is known as the villain in this movie because he wants to conquer the world in his own bad ways. Lex Luthor is also considered as one of most notorious of Superman's rivals. In this movie the villain challenges the hero, Clark Kent who portrays the good guy in this movie. He feels like an outsider because he is in a strange planet where he has to act normal in order to fit in society. He is also known as the hero in this film because he conquers his rival Lex, after so many obstacles. He also plays the role as a reporter trying to blend in society in this movie. The archetype in this movie is that we need to understand that when danger is present no matter what the situation is good will overcome the bad.


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Yvonne Torres | 72 comments The movie that I thought best describes archetypes is Disney’s movie Hercules. It’s obvious that Hercules is the hero in the movie. Hercules has the typical appearance of a hero. He has strong, sharp, masculine features. His armor is shiny and his colors are bright and lively. Hercules also wears a blue cape attached to his armor. Blue symbolize security, loyalty all qualities of a hero. He has a belt around his waist that has a round pendant with a gold lightning bolt engraved onto it. Lightning represents inspiration. The circle it lays on represents eternity, heaven, perfection. These words represent a God or in Herculeses’ case a demigod. The archetypal situation that pertains to Hercules is the task to become a hero to join his father Zeus in Mount Olympus. On the other hand Hades, who takes the role of the villain in the movie, is dark and gloomy. Hades’ features are not as sharp as Hercules and he wears a dark black robe. Black represents evil, anger, power, which describe Hades well considering he is the God of the Underworld and all. The archetypal situation that pertains to Hades is the quest to overtake Zeus, take power, and rule Mount Olympus. This movie deals with a problem as old as time: good versus evil. Good always prevails in the end, at least in Disney movies it always does.


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Monique Freitag | 53 comments An example of an archetypal character is Scar from the film “The Lion King”. He is seen as the villain of the pride land and is out casted and frowned upon by the other lions. Scar is a cold character in comparison to his brother Mufasa who is King. Scar is alone except for his minions that join him in exile in the elephant graveyards.

The archetypal situation is Scar’s quest to conquer and have control over this pride land. The only way to achieve this goal is to kill his brother Mufasa, who is reigning King.

Some archetypal symbols can be seen is the appearance of these rival lions. Scar has a darker overall look, his mane is black and his face is always twisted in a sneer.The color black is usually related to evil or dark presence. Mufasa on the other hand, he is a polar opposite with his golden fur and overall more positive presence. The contrast of their physical appearance highlights the light/dark overtone.

This archetype represents the constant power struggle between good and evil.


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Yvonne Torres | 72 comments Rosie wrote: "An example of an archetypal character is Lex Luthor from the movie Superman. He is known as the villain in this movie because he wants to conquer the world in his own bad ways. Lex Luthor is also c..."
I agree with Rosie, Clark Kent’s archetypal character is the hero in the movie Superman. Superman has the task of defending the world from evil with his super powers. We see the archetypal situation of good versus evil in this movie.


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Shanda Brunson | 64 comments The archetypal character is Lady Tremaine in the story of Cinderella. Cinderella’s father a young widower wanted a mother figure for his young daughter so he marries Lady Tremaine a woman from a good family with two daughters. To everyone’s eye she was a perfect stepmother but behind closed doors she mistreated Cinderella. Lady Tremaine made Cinderella do all the cleaning and cooking and would speak to her terribly. While she treated her two daughters like princesses. This archetype allows us the reader to not always believe what we see and tells us to seek what is really happening behind closed doors.


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Suzette Sanchez (slelysanchez) | 53 comments The archetypal character in the movie is the Owl(who represents bad luck) who is Also The Goblin King, "Jareth"(who embodies the role of female and male) in the movie Labyrnth. He plays the role of a feminist for some of the movie and the vilan who takes away Sarah's little brother when she expresses a curse in anger to the Goblin King wishing he would go away after her step mother asks her to baby sit him. Jareth offers to Sarah that he will make all her dreams come true if she sacrifices her baby brother or he offers Sarah a crystal ball, and tells her she has 13 hours (being an unlucky number) to find her little brother If she find her way through the Labyrnth, which takes place during medieval times. People can say that the game of the going to the Labyrnth to find her brother is harmless fun, Sarah believes something is really going on to harm her brother. The owl in the movie also represents what it means to the Romans, the owl represents a mystique of bad luck. The tone and colors in the movie were very dark, nothing bright, usuallt with thunder, lightning and with rain situations, the movie hardly cast any sunlight, possibly just trying to portray evil. The movie seems to be very fairytale like, but its complete opposite. people believe fairies are nice, in the movie the fairies bite, and the trolls are urinitating in the pool.The Archetype allows us to believe that this movie represents alot of fairytale motives, yet it leaves us believing things are not what they seem, when one door closes in the movie a whole new maze is coming, the movie is based on fantastical oddities.


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Nancy | 22 comments The archetypal character in the movie “Dumbo” would be Timothy J. Mouse, which ended to be the hero. Timothy was the circus rodent who helped Dumbo to develop the ability he had. Dumbo was being bullied by the circus pachyderms because of his big ears and then Dumbo ended up being a circus clown. Mrs. Jumbo, Dumbo’s mother, defended Dumbo the whole time, and she ended up in a barred circus car with a plaque that said “mad elephant.” Timothy found Dumbo sad and alone and he took pity of him. He took Dumbo to see his mother and then they went through a parade of psychedelic pink elephants and drowned their sorrows in a bathtub. When they woke up, Dumbo and Timothy were on top of a tree. A group of crows made them believe that they were able to fly with a magic feather, but when Dumbo flew the second time, the feather slipped away from his nose and he panicked. Timothy was cheering him up to open his big ears and at the last second he took the courage to open them and knew that he didn't need the magic feather after all. This archetype makes us understand that anything can be possible if we just really believe it and have the courage to do it.


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Pearl Pena | 74 comments An example of an Archetypal character or hero in the fairy tale "Cinderella" would be Cinderella herself. The archetypal situation is that she had to go through a tough time and a great deal of pain and suffering to find her true love and be able to eliminate herself from her evil and wicked step family. Cinderella was caught in a tragic life that was filled with never ending housework and indignity. She is then given a once in a life time opportunity at happiness by her benevolent fairy God Mother. An example of a symbolic situation would be the clock. It represents worthy time where it is very important she be home from the ball before the clock strikes midnight in order for the spell not to be broken. This archetype represents the continual battle of good and evil. Good conclusively gains victory and Cinderella ultimately gets to attend the ball where her and the prince fall in love at first sight and eventually marries the handsome prince, allowing her to escape the miserable life.


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Victoria Leal | 47 comments The Archetypal characters example I have chosen is both Beauty and The Beast because both characters portray a certain image but there is really more to them. For example Belle is considered an outsider in her village because she's not like the other woman and decides to feed her mind with knowledge and read books. Unlike the other woman who are concentrated on their looks and head over heels over Gaston. An example for The Beast is of course he is a beast who locks himself in his castle and is portrayed as evil and mean but more into the movie you realize that he is just a big teddy bear. The situation between the two is that after Belle's father had been captured by The Beast, Belle begs the beast to let him go in return for her capture. The Beast agrees and in the beginning of her stay she is miserable and he is mean. Belle then starts to realize that there is a soft side to the Beast and gives him a chance. You then start to see the Beast making an effort to make her stay more enjoying and eventually they fall in love after the town attempts to kill the Beast. This archetype really shows a life lesson that no one should 'judge a book by its cover' because there is a lot more to a person than what meets the eye.


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Alicia | 56 comments Maleficent is the archetypal character in the movie “Maleficent”. At the beginning of the movie she starts as a young happy fairy. Everything looks bright, green and full of life. She does not look like the other fairies; she has horns and a pair of huge wings. Her wings represent strength, which is needed in order to protect her home, where other magical creatures live. Maleficent meets a boy named Stefan who is an ambitious person. They become friends but later Stefan betrays Maleficent in order to become king. He cuts her wings as proof that he has killed her and takes them to the king. This betrayal turns Maleficent’s heart stone cold and becomes the villain of the movie. She dresses all black and even her horns are cover with black material. She resides in the darkness and where ever she goes darkness ,thunder, and lightning follows her. All of this features represent evil. Seeking for vengeance, Maleficent gives Princess Aurora a gift/ spell that on her 16th birthday she will prick her finger on a spindle of a spinning wheel and will fall into a deep sleep as if she was dead and only a true love kiss will awaken her. Princess Aurora is sent away and all the spinning wheels are destroyed. Maleficent follows Aurora all this time and is able to interact with her, even though she tried to harm her, she was unable to do it. Maleficent is touched by Aurora happiness and wants to reverse her spell but is unable because only a true love kiss can break the spell. At the end Maleficent helps Aurora to wake up from the spell and was able to get her wings back which returns her strength. The archetype allow us to believe that things are not what they seem; that goodness will always overcome evil. In this case Maleficent was believed to be evil but what nobody knew was that she was betrayed and invaded, but deep in her heart she was a good individual.


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Angel Iduarte | 29 comments Santiago is the archetypal character of The Alchemist; Santiago is a young man that wants to unravel his “Personal Legend,” and in order to do that he has to find a gold treasure. The journey in search for the treasure is the archetypal situation. He meets types of people that he would have never met if it wasn't for the journey. He has mishaps that at times challenge him, and then they seem they had to happen or happened for a reason. The desert presents its self as the archetypal symbol. Santiago has to cross the desert to find the gold. Along the way the desert teaches him life lessons and shows him that everything he really needed was back at home, in Spain.


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Amber Gonzalez (amberglz) | 29 comments An example of an archetype character can be Cinderella. Cinderella is portrayed as the innocent youth in the story. Her stepmother is enraged with jealously that she does anything in her power to outcast Cinderella. Even in the situation Cinderella is in, where her stepmother throws obstacles in her way to diminish the love between the prince and herself, her faith is always in intact. Her situation can be known as the initiation because she undergoes experiences but with time overcomes them. The evil step mother has total control of Cinderella and locks her up in her room as punishment. This setting can relate to that of The Tower where the mother locks her away from society and fellowship. Throughout the story Cinderella has been helped by animals which are a major part of why she overcame her situation. The animals can be symbolic of the comfort and trust she needed from others but did not get. The birds that helped her get ready can represent the freedom she desperately wanted and the mice can represent her feeling quiet and small by her step sisters and mother.


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Maritza Cruz | 23 comments An example of an archetypal character is Maleficent from the Disney movie “The Sleeping Beauty”. She is an old evil fairy that for revenge she took advantage of her powers to harmed and cursed princess Aurora. Maleficent actions of jealousy symbolized evil and cruel. With the help of the other three nice and charming fairies princess, Flora, Fauna and Merrywheater, they were able to protected Princess Aurora from Maleficent. The three fairies symbolized protections and kindness. In the end of the story in order to remove the cursed princess Aurora had to be kissed by Prince Phillip, which showed that love can be stronger than anything. After waiting one hundred years after been asleep and the harmed of Maleficent, Princess Aurora and Prince Phillip found love.


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Yvonne Torres | 72 comments Pearl wrote: "An example of an Archetypal character or hero in the fairy tale "Cinderella" would be Cinderella herself. The archetypal situation is that she had to go through a tough time and a great deal of pai..."
I have to agree with Pearl that the clock is an archetypal symbol for valuable time. Her dream come true would soon come to an end when the clock struck midnight. At midnight the spell would be broken and everything would return to normal so time with the prince was very valuable.


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Marielena Franco | 43 comments The Archetypal characters in the movie the “Notebook” are Noah and Allie. The two crossed lovers were very different which gave them plenty of problems. Noah was a country boy and Allie was from the city they start their romantic story when they first met at a carnival they had nothing in common but, Noah insisted on making Allie go out with him on a date. After being forced on a life or death situation Allie finally accepts and they went on there first date. They fell in love and everything was like a dream for the summer. When Allies mother realized the relationship was true love she immediately tries to take Allie away and forget Noah. Allies mother does everything in her power to make Allie forget Noah by not letting Allie receive any letters from Noah; even through she knew her daughter was going through a storm of sadness. Then 7 years pass and Allie gets tired of waiting from a sign of Noah and starts a new romance, but exactly the day she decides to move forward and get married with her new love Noah comes back into her life. Everything Noah ever promised Allie he was doing and Allie was having second thoughts about her marriage. But Allie finally realized who her heart always belonged two and decided to stay with Noah. The Archetypal symbols in the story where the duck in the pond that made everything seem like a dream. The archetypal situation was there quest, there long search for there true love.


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Lillian Morales (LillianMorales) | 46 comments Mod
Melissa wrote: "William Faulkner
The Archetypal character is Emily, in the story of "A Rose for Emily." The story was based on her life from her father protect her from men to putting her into her gr..."


The archetype is not clear. What is her character archetype.


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Lillian Morales (LillianMorales) | 46 comments Mod
Shanda wrote: "The archetypal character is Lady Tremaine in the story of Cinderella. Cinderella’s father a young widower wanted a mother figure for his young daughter so he marries Lady Tremaine a woman from a go..."

I never knew her name. She is often just called the wicked stepmother.


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Lillian Morales (LillianMorales) | 46 comments Mod
Shanda wrote: "The archetypal character is Lady Tremaine in the story of Cinderella. Cinderella’s father a young widower wanted a mother figure for his young daughter so he marries Lady Tremaine a woman from a go..."


http://youtu.be/dnzm0HaKdoc

Here is the link to this movie. It's a fanastic movie.


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Lillian Morales (LillianMorales) | 46 comments Mod
Victoria wrote: "The Archetypal characters example I have chosen is both Beauty and The Beast because both characters portray a certain image but there is really more to them. For example Belle is considered an out..."

This movie was well done.


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Lillian Morales (LillianMorales) | 46 comments Mod
Yvonne wrote: "Pearl wrote: "An example of an Archetypal character or hero in the fairy tale "Cinderella" would be Cinderella herself. The archetypal situation is that she had to go through a tough time and a gre..."

Excellent example.


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Hilda Aguilar | 54 comments An example of an archetypal character is Carl from the animated film "Up". The film starts with his love story. He married his wife Ellie but as they got older she dies. The rest of the plot is about him trying to keep his promise to his wife which was have their home on top of paradise falls, that was her dream. He tries to take his house with thousands of balloons to Paradise Falls. The house symbolizes his love for his wife. They fixed their home together and everything in it reminds him of his wife and all the memories they've shared together. Throughout the film he tries to keep his house safe from any damage.If something happened to his house it would be the idea that he didn't earn his love for Ellie. There is a scene where he is sadden thinking Ellie didn't accomplish her adventures as he stares at the cover of her adventure scrapbook. As he flips through the pages he sees pictures of their happy marriage and a note from his wife saying thank you for the adventure and to begin a new one. At the end the house flies away and he is okay with it because he then knew that after all he did earn his love for his wife and she accomplished her adventure spending her life with him. This shows loving their soulmate for the rest of their lives and doing whatever they can and do whatever it takes to complete their soulmate's dreams.


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Kimberly Teran | 54 comments An archetype example that is very present in my life right now is Disney movie Frozen. Disney is overrated but it is the perfect example of an archetype. Elsa, one of the protagonists is a hero, a villain, and the outcast. She becomes lonely and distant from her sister after she accidently harms her with her magical powers. The outcast becomes when society has now seen her as a villain because she has magical powers that freeze the atmosphere. At the end, a hero because she saved her Kingdom from freezing when she found the solution to the problem she was facing. The search was to find her place and the reason to why she was freezing everything which was also a task for her and her sister. Polarities in this movie was Elsa changing summer into winter. Elsa's quest is to be alone and not harm anyone. This movie's archetype is the representation of finding each other and realizing that love is what keeps the heart warm without the need of a man to do it.


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Suzette Sanchez (slelysanchez) | 53 comments Amber wrote: "An example of an archetype character can be Cinderella. Cinderella is portrayed as the innocent youth in the story. Her stepmother is enraged with jealously that she does anything in her power to o..."
This is a really good movie, its a classic. i do believe her step mother was terribly jealous.


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Kimberly Teran | 54 comments I've never watched Cinderella but what from you've explained I understood that the stepmother is a two face who mistreats her step-daughter. This is my reply to Shanda's post.


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Kimberly Teran | 54 comments I love this movie. My 5th birthday party theme was on The Beauty and the Beast. Beautiful meaning, to love the soul and not the looks. This is my reply to Victoria's post.


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Alicia | 56 comments Suzette wrote: "The archetypal character in the movie is the Owl(who represents bad luck) who is Also The Goblin King, "Jareth"(who embodies the role of female and male) in the movie Labyrnth. He plays the role o..."
I am sincere to you, I've never seen or heard of this movie. I even looked it up due to curiosity but did watched the whole movie. I do agree with you when you said that the owl is the archetypal character because of the way you explained it as being the animal and also the Goblin King.


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Shanda Brunson | 64 comments Angel wrote: "Santiago is the archetypal character of The Alchemist; Santiago is a young man that wants to unravel his “Personal Legend,” and in order to do that he has to find a gold treasure. The journey in s..."
I am not familiar with the story and was wondering why he was wanting to unravel his personal legend and what is the symbolism for it? I was also wondering what happened in the desert to make him realize that it was always at home?


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Shanda Brunson | 64 comments Alicia wrote: "Maleficent is the archetypal character in the movie “Maleficent”. At the beginning of the movie she starts as a young happy fairy. Everything looks bright, green and full of life. She does not look..."
I have never seen the movie but I do think you explained it well. Because she was betrayed and unhappy she inflicted that upon Aurora, but in the end she still had the goodness inside of her and it came out. My only question would be was all forgiven of her past mistakes.


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Victoria Leal | 47 comments Amber's example of an archetype character is Cinderella and wrote "Her situation can be known as the initiation because she undergoes experiences but with time overcomes them." Her statement is true, throughout the whole movie Cinderella is overcoming hard obstacles to be happy. That can be relation to life now.


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Victoria Leal | 47 comments Maritza wrote: "An example of an archetypal character is Maleficent from the Disney movie “The Sleeping Beauty”. She is an old evil fairy that for revenge she took advantage of her powers to harmed and cursed princess Aurora." Is a good example. Maleficent originally was a good fairy but in the end turned out to be evil.


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Monique Freitag | 53 comments Kirsten wrote: "The Archetypal character in the movie Holes is Stanley Yelnats IV who is portrayed as the hero. Yelnats finds many pieces of missing treasure in boot camp that the wardens, which are the villains, ..."

I agree with Stanley being the archetypal hero because despite the odds he helped his friend Zero survive when they were on a journey through the desert ,going as far as carrying him up a mountain. This event ended up unintentionally saving all the Yelnats family of a curse put on them by Zero’s ancestors.


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Monique Freitag | 53 comments Maritza wrote: "An example of an archetypal character is Maleficent from the Disney movie “The Sleeping Beauty”. She is an old evil fairy that for revenge she took advantage of her powers to harmed and cursed prin..."

I believe Maleficent is a worthy choice for the archetypal character of the villain. She is the epitome of evil from the way she presents herself and dresses to the wicked actions towards Aurora.


message 40: by Jose (last edited Jan 26, 2015 05:03PM) (new)

Jose G. | 13 comments The Archetypal character I would like to discuss is Moses in the movie Exodus. In the beginning of the movie Moses believes he was of Persian decent. As the story begins to unfold it becomes clear that he is of Jewish decent. I like how in the beginning he was viewed as a hero only to become an outcast. Later in the movie he leads his people away from danger making him a hero all over again.
Archetypal quest- I would say that Moses receives his orders from God and even though its hard to believe at the time, God comes through with all of his promises. It is Mose's quest to save his people from being executed by the Persian army.
Archetypal Symbol- There are many elements of symbols to this story. It starts at the Persian pyramids, the sea (Red Sea), and to the mountains to which Moses leads his people by and then again to the Red Sea that God parts.


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Jose G. | 13 comments Kimberly wrote: "An archetype example that is very present in my life right now is Disney movie Frozen. Disney is overrated but it is the perfect example of an archetype. Elsa, one of the protagonists is a hero, a ..."

I have not watched this movie, but what from what I have read you are right. You have given some good examples of being an outcast to how the character becomes a hero.


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Jose G. | 13 comments I like that you choose the movie superman. This movie is the perfect example of good and evil. Good will always defeat evil is what we always should believe in. I also like the fact that you brought up the fact that Clark Kent is from another planet and he has to find a way to leave among humans.


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Suzette Sanchez (slelysanchez) | 53 comments Melissa wrote: "William Faulkner
The Archetypal character is Emily, in the story of "A Rose for Emily." The story was based on her life from her father protect her from men to putting her into her gr..."


i've never read this short story, but based on what you have described it has given me great interest, i just googled it and read it online and it was really good!!


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Leslie (lesliemadai) | 50 comments An example of an archetypal character is Leigh Anne Tuohy in the movie "The Blind Side." Sandra Bullock is seen as the earth mother of Michael in the movie. She is not related by blood but definitely symbolizes a motherly role. She protects Michael as if he was hers. She has abundance of love for this young man that she new needed her help.

The archetypal situation can be the task. Sandra Bullock is a certain super human who must accomplish in order for her to reach her goal. Her goal is for Michael to get into college and a scholarship to play division 1 football.

The archetypal symbol can be the field. On the field Mrs. Bullock seems to spend most of the time watching her son Michael and daughter perform. Personally she starts to grow because she realizes that the young man she gave a bed to sleep in and was now part of her family was able to become someone in life and not end up throwing his life away like the young kids in Michaels old neighborhood. The field is somewhere were she ends up as a reward for her efforts.

This movie's archetypes is the representation of love. This movie shows us that just because someone is wealthy, it does not mean that they have it all. Sometimes the only thing that is needed is love.


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Scarlett Prazaline | 41 comments "Othello" The archetype character is Iago who is the "traitor" in the story. He is seen to Othello as a friend or a acquaintance, and othello only sees the good in him. Iago has plan and this is where the archetype quest would fall for Iago. To destroy Othello, his reason being for getting passed over for lieutenant position he lost to othello. Now Iago's plan is to ruin him by getting to his weakness which is his beloved Desdemona. Iago plans little devious ways to plot and trick Othello into thinking his beautiful wife is being unfaithful. The archetype symbols in this would be the handkerchief that Othello gives to Desdemona and that describes their love. Which later Iago has his wife Emily, who is also the lady for Desdemona and puts it else where to make Desdemona look like she betrayed Othello. The setting for this book it think could best be "Gothic times" this is taken place in an era where there were kings and queens, ladies to princesses or duchess known as the personal maids. Lieutenants and soldiers who were actually considered as knights. Getting beheaded for being unfaithful or no loyalty to where you're from wasn't uncommon. This is a book thats main purposes is how easy it is for someone to make your think wrong of something so innocent and take it very wrong to the point that your jealousy becomes rage and wanting to end what you once thought was so pure and beautiful. All this for believing someone who manipulated what you are really seeing. The cruel and dark depths of how far a human being is willing to go to get what they want.

If you haven't read Othello by William Shakespeare you really should read it! Its written very thrilling and the ending will have you at the edge of your seat.


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Leslie (lesliemadai) | 50 comments Suzette wrote: "The archetypal character in the movie is the Owl(who represents bad luck) who is Also The Goblin King, "Jareth"(who embodies the role of female and male) in the movie Labyrnth. He plays the role o..."

This movie is old but it looks interesting. Will try to see the movie. Good job on the explaining, I could imagine the movie while reading your post.


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Leslie (lesliemadai) | 50 comments Jose wrote: "The Archetypal character I would like to discuss is Moses in the movie Exodus. In the beginning of the movie Moses believes he was of Persian decent. As the story begins to unfold it becomes clear ..."

Jose, nice job on the choosing of the movie. I didn't realize it was a recent movie. The trailer looks good.


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Amber Gonzalez (amberglz) | 29 comments Nancy wrote: "The archetypal character in the movie “Dumbo” would be Timothy J. Mouse, which ended to be the hero. Timothy was the circus rodent who helped Dumbo to develop the ability he had. Dumbo was being bu..."

I believe Timothy was a great example of an archetype character. He can be portrayed as the hero and also as a mentor because he helped Dumbo overcome his issue regarding his ears.


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Amber Gonzalez (amberglz) | 29 comments Hilda wrote: "An example of an archetypal character is Carl from the animated film "Up". The film starts with his love story. He married his wife Ellie but as they got older she dies. The rest of the plot is ab..."

I believe you did a good job on explaining the archetypal symbols. The house represented their life together and if he lost it he believed she wouldn't be part of his life anymore and be forgotten.


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Pearl Pena | 74 comments Marielena wrote: "The Archetypal characters in the movie the “Notebook” are Noah and Allie. The two crossed lovers were very different which gave them plenty of problems. Noah was a country boy and Allie was from th..."

The Notebook is a beautiful classic romance that I personally love and must say that I agree with Marielena. Noah and Allie were two very distinct individuals which didn't see eye to eye. Their love started off with a summer romance that only thrived with time. Although Allies mother tried everything in her power to make Noah disappear and after their long separation, in the end true love always finds its way.


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