Black Ice by Becca Fitzpatrick → Start Date: February 10, 2015

[Megan]

Join Vicki and me as we read !

[Megan]

The more the merrier.

[Vicki]

Megan, thank you for making the thread for us! I am So excited to have a partner to read and discuss it with. Thanks! :o)

Max, glad you are joining us!

[It’s.Annie]

I will be joining also

[Vicki]

Hey, "hard knock!" Glad you are able to join us, Annie! :o)

[Caron]

Joining you all for this one.

[Erin]

I will join

[Erin]

I will join

[Vicki]

Caron and Erin, so glad you're joining!

[Caron]

Are we still reading this? I'm quite behind on my reading but I'm trying to catch up

[Vicki]

The plan is to read it, but if you or anyone needs to start later that's okay.

[Caron]

Oh okay. Thanks. I'll try to power through at least 2 of my current reads today. This is my first Becca Fitzpatrick book. Naturally, I'm very excited.

[Megan]

I got the book! Planning on starting tomorrow, so excited. Also sorry for the wait, my library planning skills are horrible.

[Vicki]

Megan, I really do think it's an art! :) And I'm not artistic! Lol

[Caron]

I started and then i paused. I want to enjoy this book but i won't be able to until i get the other books out of the way.

[Vicki]

I understand Caron!

[Vicki]

OMG the beginning of this book is really, really freaky! I can't imagine (view spoiler)[being in a situation where you go home with some stranger and then find yourself tied up and (it appears) killed. Freaky! (hide spoiler)]

The print is killing me to read! It's so tiny!

I'll post more in a bit.

[Caron]

Vicki wrote: "OMG the beginning of this book is really, really freaky! I can't imagine [spoilers removed]

The print is killing me to read! It's so tiny!

I'll post more in a bit."

I know what you mean. It's 2am and I only managed to read that first part.

(view spoiler)[I stopped reading because it's dark and that's a creepy way to start the book. I was not expecting that. And even though she was a rebel, she seemed so nice. (hide spoiler)]

[Vicki]

I wouldn't like to have read that at 2:00 AM! LOL It's 2:00 PM here and (finally) nice and sunny! :o)

[Caron]

Vicki wrote: "I wouldn't like to have read that at 2:00 AM! LOL It's 2:00 PM here and (finally) nice and sunny! :o)"

That's why I stopped. It's going to take me a few days to finish this since I'll only read it when the sun is shining. I had to go back to middle grade to calm my nerves.

[Vicki]

Haha! It's pretty scary. I'm at Ch. 3 now.

[Vicki]

Finished Ch. 5 and OMG

I had a bad feeling when (view spoiler)[Mason knew so much about Britt when he pretended to be her boyfriend, but now that the girls are in the cabin with him and Shaun I'm unsure HOW bad he is. But he's definitely bad news. I hope that he knows about Shaun being a killer but that he wasn't involved! At least I assume Shaun is the killer of that other girl. Either way he's bad, BAD news (hide spoiler)]

Korbie is (view spoiler)[WAY too quick to flirt and be a wee bit (or a lot) too forward. She doesn't have much sense about her and when to keep her mouth shut! (hide spoiler)]

Britt is more (view spoiler)[quick on her feet and seems to be a lot smarter or should I say more capable of handling herself. She is better at sensing moods/attitudes, but she is too quick to want to make guys jealous. I wish she'd have sensed that Mason REALLY wanted them to leave for a reason. Ugh...I wonder what now! (hide spoiler)]

Bear is probably (view spoiler)[going to have a hard or impossible time finding them because it sounded like they are nowhere near the cabin. (hide spoiler)]

Calvin didn't (view spoiler)[want to "babysit" in the first place, so I wonder if he'll even try finding them unless he realizes they are missing. (hide spoiler)]

[Caron]

Chapters 1-2

(view spoiler)[Calvin was a jerk for breaking up with Brit the way he did. But it's always like that. They guy goes off to college and dumps the high school girlfriend. Mason- creepy alert. He really freaked me out.

So the girl from the prologue's name was Lauren. Brit is acting very nonchalant about going to the mountains. That's why I vowed never to go anywhere during spring break. Bad things happen. It's a good thing Brit stuck the map in her shorts. Hopefully it will be useful later. (hide spoiler)]

[Vicki]

Finished Ch. 10

Britt and Korbie are (view spoiler)[in one heck of a bad situation! I like how Britt is trying to protect Korbie. Britt is definitely a strong person. I hope that she is able to dupe the men somehow so she and Korbie can get free. (hide spoiler)]

Korbie is (view spoiler)[the type of girl I'd think most kidnappers/rapists might want to take because she seems very week. I felt bad for her when Shaun butted her in the face, but at least she's pretty much shut up now and that might keep her safer. (hide spoiler)]

Mason is full (view spoiler)[of surprises. I wonder why he lied about the insulin because I'd think Shaun might have checked and then it could have gone very bad for Mason! I think he will protect her on their jaunt through the forest and escape as much as he can. (hide spoiler)]

I'm wondering if by any chance (view spoiler)[Mason is somewhat of a victim of Shaun's. I mean is it possible that he isn't a part of killing Lauren and of holding girls hostage? He tried to prevent them from getting inside the house and if he was a rapist/kidnapper, it seems like he'd have been excited. I just have a feeling that somehow he is being coerced by Shaun. (hide spoiler)]

I hope that (view spoiler)[Calvin and/or Bear are already on the hunt for the girls. (hide spoiler)]

[Vicki]

Finished Ch. 15

I wonder how (view spoiler)[Korbie is doing. I hope she's okay. (hide spoiler)]

Mason (view spoiler)[is trying to be protective, and I still think there is more to him than we know as of now. I think he might be a good guy. I'm so curious to see how this plays out. (hide spoiler)]

Shaun (view spoiler)[was certainly quick to kill that ranger or cop. He's pretty scary and he'd obviously kill Britt in a heartbeat if he had no need for her. (hide spoiler)]

I also wonder why Mason was so (view spoiler)[curious about whether or not Britt told Shaun about the dead girl. I think maybe he knows that Shaun killed her and that Shaun might kill Britt if he knew she'd discovered her body. (hide spoiler)]

[Megan]

On chapter 8 and so far I have mixed feelings. On the one hand the plot is extremely quick and easy to get through, there's lot's of action as well and moments where I'm hanging on the edge of my seat. I also grew up in Wyoming and many a long weekend were spent hiking in the Tetons so I love hearing all the descriptions of them and can totally understand the fear of the dangers that lurk in them. Britt has a good head on her shoulders but I get caught up in all the Calvin drama (who doesn't even really seem like he's going to play that big of a role in the actual story) and comparing herself to Korbie, they're a little too much like mean junior high girls at a slumber party. I think Korbie means well but she is so sheltered and her personality grates on my nerves so much that her dialogue's a little hard to get through. I'm interested to find out how Mason got involved with Shaun or if there's some kind of black mail going on, there's lots of different ways the author could spin his story and I'm interested to see what path she chooses.

[Vicki]

Megan, I just finished Ch. 20 today during lunch but have been too busy to post but OMG!! I couldn't believe everything that happened in Ch. 16-20!! I really like this one, and it's not cookie cutter (at least not for me yet).

Jade (view spoiler)[WoW! Surprise, surprise! Mason is really Jade? What other secrets does he have? I'm dying to see what his real and total story is! He really does seem to be a nice guy in many ways, but he definitely is running from something. I guess it's not Shaun since he's dead, but I still don't think he killed that girl. (hide spoiler)]

I was NOT EXPECTING Calvin (view spoiler)[ to kill Shaun!!! That was out of nowhere to me!!! But what REALLY got me is that he then lit the place and Shaun's body on fire!!! Who does that and WHO is Calvin?? (hide spoiler)]

The map that Calvin made and Britt is using (view spoiler)[led her straight to the shed or whatever where that one girl was murdered. Please tell me HE isn't the killer! Why would that place be on his map of the places he's been to and all the trails etc. The plot thickens! Shaun is dead at Calvin's hands, Mason is Jade who knew way too much about Britt the first time he saw her, and Calvin is running around like a crazed vigilante. Why was he in such a hurry to kill Shaun? (hide spoiler)]

Bear (view spoiler)[has been out of the picture too. I thought he'd be looking for them and maybe he is. But for some reason I thought when Calvin showed up that Bear would be with him. (hide spoiler)]

Korbie has been (view spoiler)[unheard of for awhile now. I think she's okay but she got on my nerves too. LOL (hide spoiler)]

If I have a chance to read tonight, I'm going to read more. It's really holding my interest so far.

[Caron]

chapters 3-8

Chapter 3 (view spoiler)[Korbie undermining Britt at every turn obviously didn't help. Also, hasn't Britt watched any scary movies?You don't leave you car! Aha! I knew it. If Mason was this cowboy, oh man. (hide spoiler)]

Chapter 4 (view spoiler)[Well Korbie is stupid. I can understand why Britt would be okay with staying there even if it were only for a few minutes, because she and Mason are acquaintances. Seriously, she's the type of girl that will be the first to die in a horror movie- Korbie that is. I do wonder what is up with Mason. And why is Shaun so welcoming? Overly welcome people send shivers up my spine (hide spoiler)]

Chapter 5 (view spoiler)[I have to admit that Shaun's play was a good one. He got the girls to be comfortable with him before he struck. Korbie though, she can be such a female dog sometimes. Britt was right- she had a boyfriend, why go for someone else? They don't seem like they should be best friends. (hide spoiler)]

Chapter 6 (view spoiler)[If Shaun was stupid he would have fallen for Britt's lie about the insulin and agreed to leave Korbie behind and sent Britt with Mason. I wonder what Mason is going to say when he doesn't find it. Could Shaun actually be the cowboy from the prologue? (hide spoiler)]

Chapter 7 (view spoiler)[It seems like Shaun's not afraid of Mason, he;s afraid of being alone. He seems to need a lot of reassurance. Shaun lying about hurting Britt shows who he really is underneath. What insulin was Mason talking about? (hide spoiler)]

Chapter 8 (view spoiler)[Oh my word! That was probably Lauren's body that Britt found in the tool box. How do you keep your scream in when you see something that horrifying? (hide spoiler)]

[Caron]

chapters 9-16

Chapter 9 (view spoiler)[Britt going back and remembering things of years ago was a coping mechanism. I think it's natural to think of random events when you're in a situation and wished you were anywhere else. (hide spoiler)]

Chapter 10 (view spoiler)[So they left Korbie at the cabin. I honestly don't know what she'll do. She seems sometimes to only think of herself. Will she leave the cabin? Will Calvin find her? (hide spoiler)]

Chapter 11 (view spoiler)[Maybe those memories are the only thing keeping Britt sane. (hide spoiler)]

Chapter 12 (view spoiler)[I think it was bad luck that there were no rangers at the cabin. At least there was food. I'm still sketchy about Mason. He's very hard to read. (hide spoiler)]

Chapter 13 (view spoiler)[I think it's worse that Calvin was the one to initiate the relationship. He started it and saw to it that he'd end it too. (hide spoiler)]

Chapter 14 (view spoiler)[When I watch Criminal Minds I see this a lot. There'll be two people but one will always become unstable and go off track. They lose focus. Shaun is that one. And how can he blame killing the cop on both of them? Mason was trying to prevent that. (hide spoiler)]

Chapter 15 (view spoiler)[Mason is a confusing guy. At first I was happy that Britt had made it out and then Mason found her. He seems like he actually cares. What is his deal? (hide spoiler)]

Chapter 16 (view spoiler)[Calvin was so close! And he knew Shaun was the guy. Shaun was the cowboy! This is too much for me. (hide spoiler)]

[Caron]

chapters 17-23

Chapter 17 (view spoiler)[Mason's random acts of kindness (heh!)are curious. Why be kind? (hide spoiler)]

Chapter 18 (view spoiler)[Calvin was a jerk towards Britt in front of his friends. Reminds me of my first boyfriend, he hated me calling him my boyfriend in public. Really though, what does Britt see in him? (hide spoiler)]

Chapter 19 (view spoiler)[Just before I read that part I was going to say that it seemed like Stockholm Syndrome was kicking in but then Britt realised it herself. (hide spoiler)]

Chapter 20 (view spoiler)[What is it with this mountain and murders? This takes me back tot his camp I went on back in '08. We were there for a week. By the second last night everyone was begging the teachers to leave because weird stuff was happening and our hairs stood on end. (hide spoiler)]

Chapter 21 (view spoiler)[Jude's reaction to hearing about Kimani was suspicious. He couldn't have been the boyfriend, right? (hide spoiler)]

Chapter 22 (view spoiler)[I'm not sure that it was a good idea for Britt to give Jude the map. And that gun was his? This guy really confuses me. (hide spoiler)]

Chapter 23 (view spoiler)[Was Jude looking for Kimani? That's all I can think. No one just goes up a mountain in a blizzard. (hide spoiler)]

[Caron]

chapters 24-31

Chapter 24 (view spoiler)[Okay so things have escalated. I don't trust Jude. I can't trust him because I don't know him. (hide spoiler)]

Chapter 25 (view spoiler)[I honestly don't know how I feel about this relationship. I just want them to get up to Idlewilde and see what's going to happen. (hide spoiler)]

Chapter 26 (view spoiler)[OMG! No! Not Jude! He didn't seem like the type. And Calvin said he saw Shaun with the girl. Jeez, this is insane. (hide spoiler)]

Chapter 27 (view spoiler)[Britt walking alone through the snow. I hope she finds Idlewilde before Jude finds her. (hide spoiler)]

Chapter 28 (view spoiler)[That is no way for an animal to die. I wonder why Mr. Versteeg was so mean. (hide spoiler)]

Chapter 29 (view spoiler)[Oh man, I feel a fight coming on. I second Britt's thoughts. If she's Calvin's girl, why didn't he go back to look for her? (hide spoiler)]

Chapter 30 (view spoiler)[I don't feel so comfy around Calvin either. He lies too much. (hide spoiler)]

Chapter 31 (view spoiler)[Calvin act like Britt sleeping with him should be payment for nursing her back to health. Once again, what does -did- she see in him? (hide spoiler)]

[Caron]

Had to take a moment. Breathe, relax. Gotta post this because yes!

chapters 32-33

Chapter 32 (view spoiler)[Holy shucks! That scared me! Jeez. My heart. I swear the amount of times this book made me have a near heart attack- I need a doctor. So it wasn't Jude. Thank God. I don't know why but I believe him. I know I've been jumping trains with the suspects but I'm thinking it was Calvin. He killed Shaun in cold blood, he's definitely capable. Jude's sister? But she went to Stanford... But she was killed a year ago. Calvin left 8 months ago. The timeline doesn't match (hide spoiler)]

Chapter 33 (view spoiler)[And finally she realises who Calvin really is. Jeez, I wanted to yell at her to wake up and smell the coffee.

THE HAT WAS LAUREN'S. IT WAS CALVIN! I WAS RIGHT! (hide spoiler)]

[Caron]

Finished. Aw man, that was beautiful!

Chapter 34 (view spoiler)[I think Calvin's getting nervous. He's going to try to kill Jude and if he succeeds he'll kill Britt but would he kill Korbie? What lie would he make up?

**Besides, the map is obviously hidden somewhere in Britt's clothes. (hide spoiler)]

Chapter 35 (view spoiler)[So he would hurt his own sister. Britt was right. Calvin was exactly the same as his dad, only worse. I still can't believe that Korbie didn't believe Britt (hide spoiler)]

Chapter 36 (view spoiler)[At least Britt could get a fire started. (hide spoiler)]

Chapter 37 (view spoiler)[There's no way Calvin would let Brittgo now that she knows. (hide spoiler)]

Chapter 38 (view spoiler)[This is the risky part. Trying to escape. I really hope Calvin's too lazy to come after them. (hide spoiler)]

Chapter 39 (view spoiler)[So he left the map at the tree. That was smart of him. Not bringing the object of desire with him. (hide spoiler)]

Chapter 40 (view spoiler)[Calvin attempting to commit suicide was harsh. He'd rather die than face his dad. Dang. I was hoping Jude would come clean. I guess this was better. Jude is still a good guy then. (hide spoiler)]

Chapter 41 (view spoiler)[Well that was sad. But Jude did what he had to do. (hide spoiler)]

Epilogue (view spoiler)[So I'm guessing that Korbie and Britt never made up again. Still though, your brother's a murderer and you get mad at your best friend for ratting him out? I liked the ending. I liked that Jude and Britt could leave the past behind and not let it haunt them. Also, Caz is a way better best friend than Korbie ever was. (hide spoiler)]

Amazing book! 5/5 stars.

[Vicki]

Glad you loved it!!!

[Vicki]

I've just been SO busy but I'm in Ch. 25. I'll try reading as much as I can tonight. it's really good, right?

[Caron]

This book is still with me. Continue, you won't regret it.

[Vicki]

Oh, I plan to finish it!

[Vicki]

Caron, I don't see a rating from you.

Finished Ch. 30

I'm seriously not buying (view spoiler)[that Jude is a bad guy. I did distrust him, but I sure don't think he's Lauren's killer. I think he's better good than bad guy. I'm dying to know his story. The items he has that Britt stole and because one is handcuffs, I wonder if he is searching for the killer. Possibly he could be a bounty hunter or he has an interest in finding her killer because she was his girlfriend or sister. I'm not sure why he wouldn't have just told Britt, but I don't think he's the killer. (hide spoiler)]

The person that I am really beginning to suspect is (view spoiler)[Calvin. He has that map that led them to the house itself...why?...and he was way too quick to kill Shaun. And why on earth would he lie about how he found the skimobile and the keys being in it. It seems to me if he knew they were both worried/scared about the bad guys coming back that he'd tell them he killed them so they didn't have to worry about Shaun. The thing that REALLY threw me is what "normal/regular" young person would be so quick to kill with a gun and THEN set the entire place on fire, including the body? I'm seriously wondering if Calvin is the killer. I know that doesn't seem right, but he's arousing my suspicions! (hide spoiler)]

[Caron]

Vicki wrote: "Caron, I don't see a rating from you.

Finished Ch. 30

I'm seriously not buying [spoilers removed]

The person that I am really beginning to suspect is [spoilers removed]"

I could've sworn I rated this! I'll get on that now. Thanks for telling me.

I get what you mean (view spoiler)[Jude seems to care too much to be a bad guy. I mean, what kidnapper/killer leaves food and water for their victims after they've left them 'to die'? (hide spoiler)]

[Vicki]

Finished Ch. 35

I knew it! (view spoiler)[Calvin HAD to be bad. I trusted Jude for some reason after he and Britt were in the woods together. But Calvin, after he killed Shaun in such cold blood and didn't even flinch at setting him/the shed on fire. I just wasn't sure how it fit, but it's evident now. (hide spoiler)]

I can't believe that Calvin (view spoiler)[butted his own sister with a gun just to tell her that Britt kicked her? Why? To get her on his side? I have a feeling he'd kill ALL of them if it meant saving face with his dad or covering his own butt. What an AWFUL human being! Killing girls because they were accepted to good universities and he wasn't? That is SICK! (hide spoiler)]

I don't know how Britt (view spoiler)[ is going to get out of her mess. Looks like she had the guts to shoot Calvin if need be, but I guess it was empty. Right? (hide spoiler)]

Jude could (view spoiler)[somehow get out of his mess. I'm a romantic and always have fantasies when reading, and my fantasy is that Jude will be the hero that Britt needs and somehow kick Calvin's butt and get justice. I don't want to see him kill Calvin though unless it is in self-defense. (hide spoiler)]

[Caron]

Vicki wrote: "Finished Ch. 35

I knew it! [spoilers removed]

I can't believe that Calvin [spoilers removed]

I don't know how Britt [spoilers removed]

Jude could [spoilers removed]"

To all of the above: YES! I agree whole heartedly. (view spoiler)[Calvin was way to casual with killing Shaun. (hide spoiler)]

[Vicki]

Finished and have to leave for work, but your last spoiler is when I very first suspected (view spoiler)[Calvin. (hide spoiler)]

I'll add more later.