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message 1: by Dee (new)

Dee Sauter (indeathaddict) | 7583 comments Jaclyn Wilde is a wedding planner who loves her job—usually. But helping Carrie Edwards with her Big Day has been an unrelenting nightmare. Carrie is a bridezilla of mythic nastiness, a diva whose tantrums are just about as crazy as her demands. But the unpleasant task at hand turns seriously criminal when Carrie is brutally murdered and everyone involved with the ceremony is accusing one another of doing the deed.

The problem is, almost everyone— from the cake maker and the florist to the wedding-gown retailer and the bridesmaids’ dressmaker—had his or her own reason for wanting the bride dead, including Jaclyn. And while those who felt Carrie’s wrath are now smiling at her demise, Jaclyn refuses to celebrate tragedy, especially since she finds herself in the shadow of suspicion.

Assigned to the case, Detective Eric Wilder finds that there’s too much evidence pointing toward too many suspects. Compounding his problems is Jaclyn, with whom he shared one deeply passionate night before Carrie’s death. Being a prime suspect means that Jaclyn is hands-off just when Eric would rather be hands-on. As the heat intensifies between Eric and Jaclyn, a cold-blooded murderer moves dangerously close. And this time the target is not a bride but one particularly irresistible wedding planner, unaware of a killer’s vow


message 2: by Dee (new)

Dee Sauter (indeathaddict) | 7583 comments Yay, Anita your book made it...finally. I know I am looking forward to reading it, because it has been awhile since I have. You have all month to read the book so if you are in the middle of something don't worry.


message 3: by Sandra J (new)

Sandra J Weaver (sandraweaver) | 149 comments I liked this book. Some of the wedding themes were too funny.


message 4: by Lisa Kay (new)

Lisa Kay (lisakayalicemaria) | 1002 comments I haven't read Veil of Night by Linda Howard , yet. I'll have to give it a try.


message 5: by Janeiowa (new)

Janeiowa | 4912 comments I, too, enjoyed this one and look forward to re-reading it. It has one of my favorite of LH's funny lines.


message 6: by Eve (new)

Eve (everf) | 816 comments I have to finish Paradise first, then I'm going to start with Veil of Night. Haven't read it before, so I'm really looking forward to reading it.


message 7: by Anita (new)

Anita (anitanodiva) | 1586 comments I just finished Nora Roberts Savor the Moment (Bride Quartet, #3) by Nora Roberts book three in her series. I didn't like it. I know Veil of Night by Linda Howard has got to be better.


message 8: by Jody (new)

Jody Read this not long ago, it was quite entertaining. Detective Studmuffin and all the insane chaos with the wedding planning and hoping he gets beriberi had me cracking up.


message 9: by Dee (new)

Dee Sauter (indeathaddict) | 7583 comments I swore I had the book but if I did I can't find it. I ordered it from the library so I won't get it until Thursday.


message 10: by Eve (last edited Nov 05, 2014 05:04AM) (new)

Eve (everf) | 816 comments Wedding planner Jaclyn Wilde and Detective Eric Wilder run into each other at the courthouse, and later at a bar where they talk long enough to discover their last names are almost the same, and then - gosh! darn it! - the attraction is so strong that they find themselves together in bed later that night (what's the hurry???!!!).

We learn that the hero, Eric, likes Jaclyn because she is classy with long legs. There is nothing else about her personality that he mentions. And why does Jaclyn like him? Oh, and they are both divorced!

There is a morning-after scene that made me recall the Linda Howard humor of the past (think of e.g. Mr. Perfect, Open Season) - Eric is lying in bed contemplating how he likes women well enough for the good parts but really wishes he could avoid the complications like having to spend an hour or so the next morning talking and relating because he is a busy man and he just doesn't have time for all that stuff. Jaclyn then pops into the bedroom, hands him a cup of coffee in a ToGo cup and takes off for the shower and asks him to make sure to lock the door on the way and oh sorry, she just doesn't have time for a chat because she is such a busy woman!

At this point in the book, I gave a small grin and settled in for hopefully enjoyable Linda Howard ride...but unfortunately, it went downhill from there.

As far as relationship development goes, there is the scene I described at the beginning of the book and then the murder investigation and the book frequently wonders into boring descriptions (too much telling and too little showing). Somehow Jaclyn and Eric aren't very interesting, and their story line is ho-hum at best. I'm in the middle and struggling to finish...that's suprising for Linda Howard book.


message 11: by Janeiowa (last edited Nov 05, 2014 05:59PM) (new)

Janeiowa | 4912 comments One of the best things about a group read is seeing how others react to the same book. I've read Veil of Night several times, and I enjoy it more each time. I think Jaclyn is a strong, independent, funny character. I enjoyed her description and coping with the various "Bridezillas" and the themes people think are a good idea for a wedding.

I also thought Ms Howard did a great job on the plot as the reader got more information about possible suspects and why victim was murdered.

One of the funniest lines was Eric's first look at the victim and his comment about "being kabobed." It reminded me of some of those great humor scenes in Mr. Perfect .


message 12: by Eve (new)

Eve (everf) | 816 comments Janeiowa wrote: "One of the best things about a group read is seeing how others react to the same book. I've read Veil of Night several times, and I enjoy it more each time. I think Jaclyn is a strong, independe..."

Well, I'm reading Veil of Night for the first time, so hopefully it gets better ;) I remember that I hated Cry No More when I first read it, but now its one of my favourites. But with Open Season and Mr. Perfect I instantly fell in love with both books.


message 13: by Anita (new)

Anita (anitanodiva) | 1586 comments I hope to start this book this weekend. Maybe I'll get some down time, but I'm going dirt biking and the kids all love grammy.


message 14: by Dee (new)

Dee Sauter (indeathaddict) | 7583 comments Anita wrote: "I hope to start this book this weekend. Maybe I'll get some down time, but I'm going dirt biking and the kids all love grammy."

Aren't you lucky to be having a time with the grandkids. Enjoy yourself.


message 15: by Dee (new)

Dee Sauter (indeathaddict) | 7583 comments I am almost half-way through with the book and although it is not a favorite I do find the book really good. I just don't understand why Jaclyn upset with Eric because he has to put her on the suspect list. It doesn't mean he believes she did it, it means that she was one of the last people to see Carrie alive. BTW, I loved how they called her Carrion Edwards.


message 16: by Dee (last edited Nov 07, 2014 04:29PM) (new)

Dee Sauter (indeathaddict) | 7583 comments I'm about two-thirds done with the book and now I remember why it was not a favorite of mine. Eve, I totally agree with you that the beginning of the book reminds me of Mr. Perfect and if it would have stayed that way I would have loved the book, however it sinks into boredom. Jaclyn and Madelyn seem like drama queens. Poor Jaclyn has been questioned by the police and her clothes is being examined. Therefore, she is a suspect instead of a person of interest and needs to be eliminated so Eric doesn't lose his job.

Another thing I don't understand and really don't like is why (view spoiler)


message 17: by Dee (last edited Nov 07, 2014 04:31PM) (new)

Dee Sauter (indeathaddict) | 7583 comments I have to say there are some real funny parts to this book. I am at the part where JW calls Eric Studley Do Right. LOL


message 18: by Eve (last edited Nov 08, 2014 11:31AM) (new)

Eve (everf) | 816 comments Linda Howard definitely knows how to do funny parts. I liked it when Eric was plotting how to leave in the morning and avoid talking about the night before...but then he was handed his coffe cup-to go, and she told HIM to see that the door locks behind him. Huh, ouch, but it was so funny, and his "I feel so used". LOL.


message 19: by Janeiowa (new)

Janeiowa | 4912 comments Linda Howard's humor is wonderful. I don't know of other authors who do it so well!


message 20: by Eve (new)

Eve (everf) | 816 comments Its weird. I stopped reading Veil of Night and this weekend started to read it once again. From the beginning...and now it has captured my attention and I'm really enjoying the story and so nicely thrown in humor.


message 21: by Janeiowa (new)

Janeiowa | 4912 comments That happens sometimes to me, too. I saw a lot more humor the second time I read it.


message 22: by Dee (new)

Dee Sauter (indeathaddict) | 7583 comments I have worked for the Department of Corrections and I did see some really DUMB criminals in the years I worked there I guess Taite could be considered one of those types of criminals. I just wished LH would have made Taite a little more savvy.


message 23: by Anita (new)

Anita (anitanodiva) | 1586 comments I loved the book, although, I think I will need to do a reread. To much going on around me and watching 4 kids so they didn't get run over by dirt bikes and quads while their parents went on a 2 hour ride!! was very distracting. Anyway, I loved the almost sarcastic humor and I really didn't know until the end who had actually killed her. The plot could have gone in a lot of different directions about that. Taite and Carrie were two halves of the same coin, they were both egoistical bitches who only loved themselves.

Jaclyn was upset at Eric, not because she was a suspect - she understood that - she was upset because he refused to at least reassure her that it was only procedure, that he didn't personally believe she had done it.


message 24: by Janeiowa (new)

Janeiowa | 4912 comments I guess I figured she was such an arrogant, spoiled brat that since she knew who was guilty, she imagined Jaclyn would soon see or remember something that would do the old "lover boy" in and Jaclyn would tell Eric, etc. She probably thought she was being "proactive" even if she might not have known what the word meant. ;)


message 25: by Lisa Kay (new)

Lisa Kay (lisakayalicemaria) | 1002 comments I wasn't enjoying this at the beginning, but I am now. I think I had to get used to the narrator.


message 26: by Janeiowa (new)

Janeiowa | 4912 comments I assume you mean an audiobook? I've never read that way, but I know others love audiobooks when commuting, etc.


message 27: by Lisa Kay (new)

Lisa Kay (lisakayalicemaria) | 1002 comments Yes, sorry, that is what I meant. I love audiobooks.


message 28: by Lisa Kay (new)

Lisa Kay (lisakayalicemaria) | 1002 comments ★★★★✩ (This is a review of the audiobook.) I had to get used to the narrator, Clarinda Ross, but I enjoyed this one much more than I thought I would, considering some of the reviews. I set it aside but was glad I picked it back up. Maybe it could have used a little more romance, but I knew that going in, so I was fine with the level. And I didn't mind all the info on weddings. I was worried Jaclyn was turning in to a bit of a witch herself, like the victim, Carrie, at least towards Eric, but she was hurt and she got over it.


message 29: by Dee (new)

Dee Sauter (indeathaddict) | 7583 comments Although I usually would rather listen to an audio than read the book, this time I read the book. I can't remember how Clarinda Ross is, but if the narrator isn't any good it really ruins the story for me.


message 30: by Lisa Kay (new)

Lisa Kay (lisakayalicemaria) | 1002 comments I wouldn't say she was "bad," but I had to get used to her voice. Plus, sometimes I felt she was trying a bit too hard, if that makes any sense. Just at times, though. It wasn't until I got caught up in the story that I was able to let that go.


message 31: by Lisa Kay (new)

Lisa Kay (lisakayalicemaria) | 1002 comments You are right, though. The narrative can make or break a book. Sometimes I have to switch to a different media because I just can't handle the narrator. With other books, the narrator really kicks the book up a notch.


message 32: by Anita (new)

Anita (anitanodiva) | 1586 comments I get way to distracted with an audio book. It just doesn't hold my attention like reading does.


message 33: by Dee (new)

Dee Sauter (indeathaddict) | 7583 comments I'm going to Mexico tomorrow, and I am going to have to spend about 3 days down there, so an audio is great for the long drive. I think it is a 4 or 5 hour trip.


message 34: by Sera (new)

Sera (Serachan) | 496 comments i've never able to finish this book..
and i've never listened audiobooks before..


message 35: by Sandra J (new)

Sandra J Weaver (sandraweaver) | 149 comments I finished a reread of this book, and I enjoyed it. I liked the humor, though I thought Jaclyn's initial reaction to Eric's questioning was OTT. I really enjoyed the descriptions of the different wedding themes. Back when I was getting married (the olden days), I didn't know anyone who planned out a wedding theme beyond picking colors for the bridesmaids' dresses. And no one I knew planned big production weddngs.


message 36: by Dee (new)

Dee Sauter (indeathaddict) | 7583 comments Sera wrote: "i've never able to finish this book..
and i've never listened audiobooks before.."


How come Sera?


message 37: by Dee (new)

Dee Sauter (indeathaddict) | 7583 comments Sandra J wrote: "I finished a reread of this book, and I enjoyed it. I liked the humor, though I thought Jaclyn's initial reaction to Eric's questioning was OTT. I really enjoyed the descriptions of the different..."

I know my sister had a huge wedding. This was in the 60s, but at the time there wasn't anything called a wedding planner. My mom planned it all by herself, and I have to admit she did a remarkable job. Of course, for all the money spent the marriage didn't last. Finally, when my sister got remarried, about a year after her divorce they eloped and that one has lasted 40 + years.


message 38: by Lisa Kay (new)

Lisa Kay (lisakayalicemaria) | 1002 comments Yes, the amount of money spend on weddings now-a-days is really something. I sometimes shake my head. I can't help thinking, especially for some young couples, the money would be better spent as a down payment on a house, or even just to buy a boat to get away with every week-end. I mean, you really, really have to want to have a party to do all that.


message 39: by Janeiowa (last edited Nov 15, 2014 11:30AM) (new)

Janeiowa | 4912 comments 100% agreement here. Just tired of hearing of parents taking out second mortgages to pay for a wedding. One local Bridezilla was...believe it or not--[this told me by her friend and one of her bridesmaids....$25,000 over her budget. She works at a barely above min wage job and he's a painter at a local factory! I'm betting the debt will last longer than the marriage. (Before the wedding the groom said she took his paycheck and blew it all at a casino.). He's as nuts as she is, in my view, to have married her!


message 40: by Anita (new)

Anita (anitanodiva) | 1586 comments Three girls, three weddings all were under $10,000 and everyone, bride's parents, groom's parents and bridal couple paid equally.


message 41: by Lisa Kay (new)

Lisa Kay (lisakayalicemaria) | 1002 comments That's insane, Janeiowa. Well, he can't say he didn't have warning of her lack of money-handling skills and impulsive, self-centered behavior.


message 42: by Lisa Kay (new)

Lisa Kay (lisakayalicemaria) | 1002 comments Good job, Anita.


message 43: by Janeiowa (new)

Janeiowa | 4912 comments I agree, LisaKay, and told the bridesmaid I thought the wisest thing formhim was to call off the wedding. The "excuse" the bridesmaid gave..."but a lot of $$$ have been spent already." I told her that was among the stupidest reasons to go through with what has all the signs of being a bad marriage...and it's going to cost him a lot more $$$ than he's/they've already spent, imho.


message 44: by Lisa Kay (new)

Lisa Kay (lisakayalicemaria) | 1002 comments Oh, definitely. I remember my aunt being so upset when her son and his fiancée broke off their engagement. She didn't even like the fiancée, but she was upset over all the money my cousin spend on the ring. My mother told her to get some perspective. It would cost him tons more in the long run, not to mention all those years wasted.


message 45: by Dee (last edited Nov 15, 2014 10:33PM) (new)

Dee Sauter (indeathaddict) | 7583 comments Has anyone seen the reality show Platinum Weddings. I watched it a couple of times and the people will spend upward of $500,000 or more. I saw one where the father built a church for the daughter and son-in-law to get married in. This wedding cost over a million. I wonder how many of those marriages actually work.


message 46: by Sera (new)

Sera (Serachan) | 496 comments I dont know Dee, maybe it's just me but i think the story is pretty slow. it's really just me?


message 47: by Lisa Kay (new)

Lisa Kay (lisakayalicemaria) | 1002 comments I've seen some show like that, Dee, but I don't remember the name of it.


message 48: by Kathy Anne (new)

Kathy Anne (kathyanne) | 598 comments Wow I think maybe getting married at home in the house if bad weather or outdoors if it`s nice and have the reception at a community hall where the charge is not too bad for a reception and then get all the female relatives to do some cooking and everyone can breathe easy over the cost.The drinks and flowers should be the only big ticket items.


message 49: by Eve (new)

Eve (everf) | 816 comments I just finished Veil Of Night and I'd give it 3 1/2 or 4 stars. It was good and I mostly enjoyed it but it was not so good like some of LH's other work. Agree with Sera - the story was a little slow at times - if it were't for Linda Howard's name on the cover, then I probably wouldn't have bothered to read on...
Love scenes were kinda rushed and unsatisfactory.
And I was a little dissapointed by the ending - Eric getting in the middle of another incident and then THE END. WTF.

How about you?


message 50: by Janeiowa (last edited Nov 17, 2014 07:04AM) (new)

Janeiowa | 4912 comments I liked it much more upon the re-reading and found the humor funnier, for some reason. Maybe it's the mood I'm in when I read?

I'd agree with the 3.5 or 4 stars. [I rarely give a 5...think the Mackenzie family series and Chesapeake Bay series [by Nora Roberts] got a 5.] I loved all the Mackenzie family novels, Mr. Perfect, After the Night, Cover of Night, Diamond Bay, and Midnight Rainbow and would put those above this one for my personal satisfaction.

However, Veil is a lot better than some romance genre novels out there and it'd be way ahead of the paranormal and historicals out there that I dislike so much.

I hope there are more coming in the Battle Ridge series, of which Running Wild was the first.


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