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message 1: by Chad (new)

Chad Corrie | 17 comments I was adding the new title for a book to my page to get ready for a today's preorder and in the process ended up combing it to the rest of the titles on the page. Could you please separate the two titles from the others? One is a print version, the other an ebook.

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/4...
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/4...

Thank you.


message 2: by lethe (new)

lethe | 13574 comments Those titles are a right mess. Which separate titles should there be? Also, please do not change the author name to NOT A BOOK unless it concerns a non-book item.


message 3: by Chad (new)

Chad Corrie | 17 comments Yes, you're right there, things are a mess, which I'm trying to clean up. I'm looking to keep the newest titles separate--the ones I just posted yesterday. These would be:

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/4...

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/4...

Incidentally, if you'e able to remove the other older titles, that would be a great help as well. Some of them I didn't add (the foreign versions) and some of them--like the other ebooks listed, aren't listed anywhere else (Amazon, other online sites, etc.) and are causing some confusion there too with things.

In fact, one of the ebooks someone has an excerpt uploaded (which I didn't post) that could cause some confusion with the new titles (they share the same name). Since we're doing a preorder today for the new title (see previous links I shared) it would be great in the very least if you could remove the excerpt as well as the two ebooks.

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2...
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2...


The foreign editions are:
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2...
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2...
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/3...
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2...


message 4: by lethe (new)

lethe | 13574 comments So if I understand correctly they are all different editions of the same book?

Please, in future do not delete valid information from your books. This is considered vandalizing. As you have been told in the other thread, old editions are not deleted, it doesn't matter whether they are still available or not.

Anyone can add books to the database, not just the author, so the foreign editions are valid too and should be combined with the originals.

Librarians cannot delete excerpts. Please contact Support for that: https://www.goodreads.com/about/conta...

Maybe they'll clean up the rest too. I don't have time for this now.


message 5: by Chad (new)

Chad Corrie | 17 comments So just so I'm clear, you're not going to be able to separate the two new titles from the rest of the books?


message 6: by Arenda (new)

Arenda | 19920 comments I've reverted all the changes that were made against GR policy.

See here for policy on out of print editions: https://help.goodreads.com/s/article/...

As the author, you can choose which edition displays on your author page, see instructions: https://help.goodreads.com/s/article/...


message 7: by Chad (new)

Chad Corrie | 17 comments Okay, thank you. Apologies for the hassle. I'll be sure to do things more officially and correctly moving forward.

Do you know if the matter of separating the two newest titles, that are going on preorder today, is still be looked at/worked on? I didn't get any reply back on that yet.

Again, the titles are:
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/4...
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/4...


message 8: by Arenda (new)

Arenda | 19920 comments Chad wrote: "Okay, thank you. Apologies for the hassle. I'll be sure to do things more officially and correctly moving forward.

Do you know if the matter of separating the two newest titles, that are going on..."


All editions of the same book, no matter the language and no matter if they are still available and no matter if they are revised/rewritten should be combined, so all editions are currently correctly combined.
With the instructions I've linked in message 6 you should be able to set one of these new editions as the default edition that shows when people are searching for for this book and on your author page.
If you can't get that to work, you'll have to contact GR support to ask them for help, as that function is not available for Librarians.


message 9: by Chad (new)

Chad Corrie | 17 comments Okay. Thank you for your help and time on this. Again, apologies for any confusion and challenges I may have created.


message 10: by Emily (new)

Emily | 13031 comments Please do not change the titles to remove the series information.


message 11: by Olivia (new)

Olivia (livka) | 7927 comments ...and descriptions. Now all editions have description in English...


message 12: by Chad (new)

Chad Corrie | 17 comments Thank you for the extra help in straightening things out. Enjoy the rest of your day and week.


message 13: by Chad (last edited Sep 19, 2019 07:49AM) (new)

Chad Corrie | 17 comments It looks like someone else has gone in and caused some confusion with the books. They have combined several of them into a series when they are not all part of the same series but different books based in different series.

Is there anyway someone can just remove this new series listing for the titles so there isn't any confusion and things go back to what they were before. You can see from each individual listing of the books and where they are listed elsewhere it's clear all these titles don't belong in the same series.

I'm most concerned with the newest title "Return of the Wizard King (The Wizard King Trilogy #1)" https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/4... which we just launched in preorder on Monday. I'd rather not have people be confused from the get go on the title--nor with any of the titles for that matter--if it can be helped.

Thank you.


message 14: by Emily (last edited Sep 19, 2019 09:47AM) (new)

Emily | 13031 comments You recombined what the librarian separated for you earlier. I don't know which of these is the same book and which aren't, if any.
All we have to do is create an alternate series called the Wizard King Trilogy and make it the primary series instead of Divine Gambit. I can do that now.
EDIT
I've created the series now. Just follow the instructions in message 6 of this thread to set one of the new editions as the default.


message 15: by Chad (new)

Chad Corrie | 17 comments While I appreciate your help what you did just made things worse. Now you have Return of the Wizard King listed as part of The Wizard King Trilogy AND The Divine Gambit Trilogy.

My simple request was to please remove ALL the books from ANY series list--that is remove the series list name and option from each entry for the books, not create any more. It should be a simple fix. I apologize for all this back and forth but I'm just trying to correct something that should have never been done in the first place.

If for some reason this proves too hard to do an alternative would be to just remove the two newest books and I can add them later and start things afresh that way without perhaps causing any more confusion. So far the these two books are on preorder and so no one can read them and no one has done anything with them yet (posting any interest, etc.), giving us some time to make a fresh post.

Does that make sense? Again the two newest books listings are: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/4...
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/4...


message 16: by Chad (last edited Sep 19, 2019 10:46AM) (new)

Chad Corrie | 17 comments And just to be clear, when I talk about "series title/grouping changes" I'm taking about the section on the book edit page that falls right after "characters" and comes before "book setting". This is the information that was incorrectly added and I would like removed--from all the books.

Thanks.


message 17: by Emily (last edited Sep 19, 2019 10:49AM) (new)

Emily | 13031 comments Chad wrote: "While I appreciate your help what you did just made things worse. Now you have Return of the Wizard King listed as part of The Wizard King Trilogy AND The Divine Gambit Trilogy."

They were all already in the Divine Gambit trilogy. Since they are all combined together, I was assuming they were all the same book, just republished under a different series and title.

Since you have already dealt with Support, your best bet is to write them back to clarify what is going on with their changes relative to yours. In the meantime I would set the default edition to avoid further confusion.


message 18: by Emily (new)

Emily | 13031 comments Chad wrote: "And just to be clear, when I take about series title/grouping changes I'm taking about the section on the book edit page that falls right after "characters" and comes before "book setting". This is..."

We do not remove series information from the title field.


message 19: by lethe (new)

lethe | 13574 comments Emily wrote: "We do not remove series information from the title field."

No, Chad is talking about the actual series field.


message 20: by Chad (last edited Sep 20, 2019 02:00PM) (new)

Chad Corrie | 17 comments So basically, you're saying you can't help me with anything, is that it? I'm a little confused with this whole process.

I didn't ask for you to add any new series title information to the Wizard King books, but remove something that was already incorrectly added previously this morning. So obviously you can add it why can't you also remove what you just did--just undo it? And why can't you undo what was incorrectly added this morning?

What am I missing here? I don't want to have to keep going back and forth between various people cause it seems like each time I ask for help something more gets altered in the process.

Can we just at least delete the two recently added titles and I can add them afresh--without any of these current incorrect attachments/information?


message 21: by Chad (new)

Chad Corrie | 17 comments Emily wrote: "Chad wrote: "And just to be clear, when I take about series title/grouping changes I'm taking about the section on the book edit page that falls right after "characters" and comes before "book sett..."

Part of the books in that combined group of titles WAS part of the Divine Gambit Trilogy, but not ALL of the titles. That is part of the problem. Someone earlier today made the decision to label them all under the same series, when just be looking at the books you can clearly see not all part of the same series. Does that make sense?


message 22: by Chad (new)

Chad Corrie | 17 comments lethe wrote: "Emily wrote: "We do not remove series information from the title field."

No, Chad is talking about the actual series field."


Yes, that is what I mean. Sorry if I don't have all the terminology correct. I only recently started using Goodreads... and don't know all the ins and outs with everything.


message 23: by Emily (last edited Sep 19, 2019 11:12AM) (new)

Emily | 13031 comments Chad wrote: "So basically, you're saying you can't help me with anything, is that?"

I am helping you by creating a new series title so that people will not be confused by seeing the old one.
If they are republished with new titles, edits, and covers, then they are combined correctly as you did this morning, and you should set the new one as the main edition.

So obviously you can add it why can't you also remove what you just did--just undo it?
Alright, I'll undo it, and now it will show that it is only part of the Divine Gambit.

And why can't you undo what was incorrectly added this morning?
The only people who worked on the book this morning can be seen in the changelog. One of them was in response to an emailed request, so they will know what you are referring to if you write them back.
EDIT:
I see what happened now, see message 25


message 24: by lethe (new)

lethe | 13574 comments Chad wrote: "Part of the books in that combined group of titles WAS part of the Divine Gambit Trilogy, but not ALL of the titles."

Which books were part of the Trilogy? I was under the impression (message #4) they were all editions of the same work.

NB Revised and reworked titles are seen as new editions of the same work on Goodreads. Translations also are editions of the same work.


message 25: by Emily (last edited Sep 19, 2019 11:11AM) (new)

Emily | 13031 comments The person this morning may have misunderstood your request. If they are republished, then they are combined correctly and you already undid the changes, so all you need to do is set the default edition.


message 26: by Chad (new)

Chad Corrie | 17 comments Emily wrote: "Chad wrote: "So basically, you're saying you can't help me with anything, is that?"

I am helping you by creating a new series title so that people will not be confused by seeing the old one.
If t..."


Could you please remove the Divine Gambit Trilogy series listing from "The series field" like Lethe talked about before? That was what I have been asking from the start? If you can undo what you just did by adding "The Wizard King Trilogy" could you not also just as easily remove the listing for "The Divine Gambit Trilogy" in that series title field? Again, I'm a little confused by how complex and confusing this is seemingly becoming. If I had a way to send a picture of what I was talking about this would be much, much easier.


message 27: by Chad (new)

Chad Corrie | 17 comments lethe wrote: "Chad wrote: "Part of the books in that combined group of titles WAS part of the Divine Gambit Trilogy, but not ALL of the titles."

Which books were part of the Trilogy? I was under the impression ..."


Titles that are part of the Divine Gambit Trilogy:

Seer's Quest https://www.goodreads.com/book/edit/2...
Path of Power https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/3...
Gambit's End https://www.goodreads.com/book/edit/5...

The rest of the titles in the "Return of the Wizard King" collection of titles are foreign editions or an English ebook edition (no longer available) put out by foreign publishers that are not part of the Divine Gambit Trilogy nor are they part of the Wizard King Trilogy but an unnamed grouping.

The last two books in the collection of titles are the two new titles I just added on Monday: Return of the the Wizard King (The Wizard King Trilogy #1)-- one a TPB the other an ebook.


message 28: by Chad (new)

Chad Corrie | 17 comments Emily wrote: "The person this morning may have misunderstood your request. If they are republished, then they are combined correctly and you already undid the changes, so all you need to do is set the default ed..."

It looks like both the Seer's Quest books are now saying they are listed on the "Wizard King Trilogy" series again. I get that I can "move up" the two series options but that doesn't solve the issue. I'd like to have both of these series options removed from the file so it goes back to how it look and operated earlier this morning.

Can that be done? That's what I've been looking to have done from the start, not having things go back and forth but a total remove of that information. It wasn't there until this morning and didn't ask for it to be included so can it be removed?


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