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message 1: by Nik (new)

Nik Krasno | 13054 comments Not sure career & quality of life always go hand in hand. Maybe places like Thailand or Bulgaria are excellent to retire to and enjoy high standard of life having even moderate pension or other income from elsewhere.
As of opportunities - I guess the Valley and emerging markets of Africa, Asia & maybe still - former Ussr offer some fast tracks to enrichment, sometimes - on account of quality of life


message 2: by J. (new)

J. Gowin | 2626 comments How are we defining "quality of life"?

I can imagine a guilded cage, in which all of your needs are provided, but you have no real choice as to how you live your life.

I can also imagine states of nature in which a horrific death is your constant companion, but you have absolute control over your choices.

I know which option I would choose. Which option would you choose.


message 3: by J. (new)

J. Gowin | 2626 comments Iain wrote: "There's more options. Open your mind."

I am fully aware of the many variations both historic and conjectured. We can debate their relative merits until the Heavenly Host form a conga line round the head of a pin.

My options offer a simple conundrum. How much is your self determination worth to you? Would you sacrifice it for comfort and peace? Would you suffer for it? I don't know that there is a universal right answer, but your answer will determine what government/country is best suited to you.


message 4: by J. (new)

J. Gowin | 2626 comments I just watched a trailer for "A Place In The Sun". If I understood it correctly, our hero is fighting for love against the powers that be. The production values in the trailer looked OK. Is the series good?


message 5: by J. (new)

J. Gowin | 2626 comments OK, when I searched YouTube for "A Place In The Sun Series" it came up with this.

https://youtu.be/nIlLqX3fr-s

When I saw that, I was very confused about your earlier post. I understand where I went astray, now. Mea culpa.


message 6: by Nik (new)

Nik Krasno | 13054 comments I guess some members would want to have a take at defining the Quality of life or living. If I'm using my attempt, it would include:
a good balance btw population's average income and accessibility of services & goods, where an average income should cover easily all basic needs and still avail a considerable leftover for needs beyond basic; accessible and affordable accommodation; accessibility to all modern goods and services; safe environment; a vibrant, socially and economically undivided community; accessible and affordable to all education & healthcare; good and supportive atmosphere within the society.


message 7: by Scout (new)

Scout (goodreadscomscout) | 5168 comments Sweden seems to fit those criteria. Their tax rate this year is 61.85%.


message 8: by Nik (new)

Nik Krasno | 13054 comments Scout wrote: "Sweden seems to fit those criteria. Their tax rate this year is 61.85%."

What would be your criteria for a quality of life?
If to believe this list Sweden is not that far ahead of the US:
https://www.numbeo.com/quality-of-lif...
Where did you take 62% from? As far as I read they have a progressive tax, rising from 0 the bigger the income, reaching 57% at the top: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxatio...
The taxation however doesn't prevent Sweden from boasting an impressive list of billionaires, nor its corporations, such as Ikea, Ericsson, volvo, h&m & others to compete quite well -:)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...


message 9: by Scout (new)

Scout (goodreadscomscout) | 5168 comments After doing some research, I've changed my mind.

Check out this site. The World Happiness Report was released by the Sustainable Development Solutions Network for the United Nations on March 20, 2019. Happiness criteria include income, freedom, trust, healthy life expectancy, social support and generosity. The US is 19th in this happiness list. Sweden is 7th. Finland is #1. I should have gone with Finland.

https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/wo...

Finland's highest personal tax rate is 62%, lowest is 49%

https://tradingeconomics.com/finland/...

Sweden's highest personal tax rate is 62%, lowest is 52%

https://tradingeconomics.com/sweden/p...

The US highest personal tax rate is 40%, lowest is 35%

https://tradingeconomics.com/united-s...

It seems that happiness in developed countries correlates to tax rates rather than income. According to Worlddata.info, US ranks 8th in income, Sweden 13th; Finland 18th.

https://www.worlddata.info/average-in...

If you want to live in a happy country, it takes a willingness to pay higher taxes that provide health care and social support. It also takes having trust in government to allocate funds and manage those programs.

So, where's the best country in the world to start a new life, be successful, healthy, and happy? I'd say Finland, if you're willing to contribute between 49% and 62% of your salary and you trust government to spend the money effectively.


message 10: by Roxanna (new)

Roxanna López Have you ever been to Finland?


message 11: by Scout (new)

Scout (goodreadscomscout) | 5168 comments Nope. Just did some research. Personally, I'd choose the U.S., but I tried to be objective.


message 12: by Roxanna (last edited Sep 17, 2019 01:18AM) (new)

Roxanna López Fair enough. I was just curious. I visited Norway a few years ago and I liked it very much; to visit.


message 13: by Nik (new)

Nik Krasno | 13054 comments Spent a day in Finland and a couple - in Sweden, however didn't see ppl rolling on the ground from happy laughter. Vice versa, I vaguely remember unhappy Finns making vodka tours to Russia back in 80-ies to circumvent alcohol limitations in their own country.
Hope these limitations were lifted and as the result their happiness went through the roof -:)


message 14: by J. (last edited Sep 22, 2019 09:38AM) (new)

J. Gowin | 2626 comments I ran across this video, and thought of this thread. It has some interesting points about happiness in Nordic countries.

https://youtu.be/tckVx_kaYco


message 15: by Nik (new)

Nik Krasno | 13054 comments Very good and relatively concise video, explaining the indices and mentality differences.
As of high suicide rates I heard that too, explained (what I heard) by a depressing lack of sun/daylight for long periods of time..


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