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message 1: by Hugh (last edited Sep 03, 2019 02:19AM) (new)

Hugh (bodachliath) | 3368 comments Mod
These are the books. Usual rules apply - one entry per person, no general chat here.

The Testaments (The Handmaid's Tale, #2) by Margaret Atwood The Testaments by Margaret Atwood (Vintage)
Ducks, Newburyport by Lucy Ellmann Ducks, Newburyport by Lucy Ellmann (Galley Beggar Press)
Girl, Woman, Other by Bernardine Evaristo Girl, Woman, Other by Bernardine Evaristo (Hamish Hamilton)
An Orchestra of Minorities by Chigozie Obioma An Orchestra of Minorities by Chigozie Obioma (Little Brown)
Quichotte by Salman Rushdie Quichotte by Salman Rushdie (Jonathan Cape)
10 Minutes 38 Seconds in this Strange World by Elif Shafak 10 Minutes, 38 Seconds in this Strange World by Elif Shafak (Viking)


message 2: by Hugh (last edited Oct 15, 2019 12:52AM) (new)

Hugh (bodachliath) | 3368 comments Mod
FINAL LEAGUE TABLES

Shortlist rankings only


My adjusted weightings method:

Pos     Book     Average, Adjusted, Count, First Places, STD
1     Girl, Woman, Other by Bernardine Evaristo   1.76, 1.00, 38, 18, 0.86
2     Ducks, Newburyport by Lucy Ellmann   2.80, 1.85, 30, 11, 1.30
3     Quichotte by Salman Rushdie   3.07, 2.25, 30, 5, 1.31
4     10 Minutes, 38 Seconds in this Strange World by Elif Shafak   3.42, 2.74, 38, 1, 1.55
5     An Orchestra of Minorities by Chigozie Obioma   4.12, 3.35, 33, 2, 1.77
6     The Testaments by Margaret Atwood   5.31, 4.41, 26, 0, 1.98

Paul-style aggregate of comparisons

Pos     Book     Average, Relative ranking, Count, First Places
1     Girl, Woman, Other by Bernardine Evaristo   1.76, 100, 38, 18
2     Ducks, Newburyport by Lucy Ellmann   2.80, 34, 30, 11
3     Quichotte by Salman Rushdie   3.07, 16, 30, 5
4     10 Minutes, 38 Seconds in this Strange World by Elif Shafak   3.42, -11, 38, 1
5     An Orchestra of Minorities by Chigozie Obioma   4.12, -45, 33, 2
6     The Testaments by Margaret Atwood   5.31, -94, 26, 0

Including carried forward longlist rankings

My adjusted weightings method:

Pos     Book     Average, Adjusted, Count, First Places, STD
1     Girl, Woman, Other by Bernardine Evaristo   1.64, 1.02, 45, 25, 0.91
2     Ducks, Newburyport by Lucy Ellmann   2.74, 1.90, 34, 12, 1.37
3     Quichotte by Salman Rushdie   2.97, 2.36, 34, 6, 1.40
4     10 Minutes, 38 Seconds in this Strange World by Elif Shafak   3.20, 2.77, 44, 3, 1.60
5     An Orchestra of Minorities by Chigozie Obioma   3.58, 3.25, 43, 8, 1.85
6     The Testaments by Margaret Atwood   5.31, 4.41, 26, 0, 1.98

Paul-style aggregate of comparisons

Pos     Book     Average, Relative ranking, Count, First Places
1     Girl, Woman, Other by Bernardine Evaristo   1.64, 111, 45, 25
2     Ducks, Newburyport by Lucy Ellmann   2.74, 34, 34, 12
3     Quichotte by Salman Rushdie   2.97, 13, 34, 6
4     10 Minutes, 38 Seconds in this Strange World by Elif Shafak   3.20, -13, 44, 3
5     An Orchestra of Minorities by Chigozie Obioma   3.58, -51, 43, 8
6     The Testaments by Margaret Atwood   5.31, -94, 26, 0


message 3: by David (last edited Oct 13, 2019 12:22PM) (new)

David | 49 comments 1. Girl, Woman, Other
2.
3. 10 Minutes 38 Seconds in This Strange World
4. An Orchestra of Minorities
5. The Testaments
6.


message 4: by Val (last edited Oct 15, 2019 10:26AM) (new)

Val | 1016 comments 1) Girl, Woman, Other
2) Quichotte
3) 10 Minutes, 38 Seconds in this Strange World
4) An Orchestra of Minorities
5) The Testaments
6) Ducks, Newburyport


message 5: by Jonathan (last edited Oct 02, 2019 05:04AM) (new)

Jonathan Pool 1) Quichotte
2) Girl, Woman, Other
3) 10 Minutes, 38 Seconds in this Strange World
4) An Orchestra of Minorities
5) Ducks, Newburyport
6) The Testaments


message 6: by Robert (new)

Robert | 2111 comments 1) Ducks, Newburyport
2) Girl, Woman Other
3) Quichotte
4) 10 Minutes 38 Seconds in this Strange World
5) An Orchestra of Minorities


message 7: by Hugh (last edited Sep 13, 2019 08:13AM) (new)


message 8: by Tommi (new)

Tommi | 514 comments 1. Ducks, Newburyport
2. Girl, Woman, Other
3. 10 Minutes, 38 Seconds in this Strange World


message 9: by Paul (last edited Sep 11, 2019 02:10AM) (new)

Paul Fulcher (fulcherkim) | 9683 comments 1 Girl, Woman, Other
2 Quichotte (a better book than 1, but a less worthy winner)
3 An Orchestra of Minorities
4 10 Minutes 38 Seconds In This Strange World
5 The Testaments
6 Ducks Newburyport


message 10: by Laura (new)

Laura (lauramulcahy) | 59 comments 1. Girl, Woman, Other
2. 10 Minutes, 38 Seconds in this Strange World
3. An Orchestra of Minorities
4. Quichotte
5.
6. Ducks, Newburyport


message 11: by Kristian (last edited Sep 04, 2019 02:20PM) (new)

Kristian (krsvane) | 64 comments

1. Ducks, Newburyport
2. An Orchestra of Minorities
3. 10 Minutes 38 Seconds in This Strange World
4. Girl, Woman, Other


message 12: by Gumble's Yard - Golden Reviewer (last edited Oct 14, 2019 07:00AM) (new)

Gumble's Yard - Golden Reviewer | 6128 comments All books now read

1 Quichotte (https://www.goodreads.com/review/show...)
2 Girl Woman Other
(https://www.goodreads.com/review/show...)
3 Ducks, Newburyport (https://www.goodreads.com/review/show...)
4 10 Minutes, Thirty Eight Seconds in this Strange World (https://www.goodreads.com/review/edit...)
5 The Testaments
(https://www.goodreads.com/review/show...)
6 An Orchestra of Minorities (https://www.goodreads.com/review/show...)


message 13: by Tom (last edited Oct 14, 2019 06:29AM) (new)

Tom | 198 comments 1. Ducks, Newburyport
2. Girl, Woman, Other
3. 10 Minutes 38 Seconds in this Strange World
4. Quichotte
5. The Testaments
6. An Orchestra of Minorities


message 14: by Ang (last edited Sep 23, 2019 01:10AM) (new)

Ang | 1685 comments 1. 10 Minutes 38 Seconds in This Strange World
2. Girl, Woman, Other

4. An Orchestra of Minorities


message 15: by Neil (last edited Sep 13, 2019 02:09AM) (new)

Neil | 1978 comments 1. Ducks, Newburyport
2. 10 Minutes, 38 Seconds in This Strange World
3. Girl, Woman, Other
4. An Orchestra of Minorities
5. Quichotte
6. The Testaments


message 16: by Alysson (last edited Oct 01, 2019 10:29AM) (new)

Alysson Oliveira | 85 comments 1. Girl, woman, other
2. Ducks, Newburyport
3. Quichotte
5. 10 Minutes, 38 Seconds in This Strange World
5. An Orchestra of Minorities
6. The testaments


message 17: by Darryl (last edited Sep 30, 2019 08:06AM) (new)

Darryl Suite (darrylsuite) | 7 comments 1. Girl, Woman, Other
2. Ducks, Newburyport
3. Quichotte
4. An Orchestra of Minorities
5. The Testaments
6. 10 Minutes 38 Seconds in This Strange World


message 18: by Joe (last edited Oct 03, 2019 07:12AM) (new)

Joe (paddyjoe) | 72 comments 1. Girl, Woman, Other
2. Ducks, Newburyport
3. 10 Minutes, 38 Seconds in This Strange World
4. Quichotte
5. The Testaments
6.


message 19: by Lascosas (last edited Sep 03, 2019 07:20AM) (new)

Lascosas | 448 comments The space reserved for Atwood is based on previous things (not many) that I have read of hers. I am upset that Levy wasn't shortlisted.

1. Girl, Woman, Other
2. Ducks, Newburyport
3. Quichotte
4.
5. An Orchestra of Minorities
6 10 Minutes, Thirty Eight Seconds in this Strange World


message 20: by WndyJW (last edited Oct 13, 2019 01:13PM) (new)

WndyJW | 5580 comments 1. Ducks, Newburyport
2. Girl, Woman, Other
3. 10 Minutes, Thirty Eight Seconds in the Strange World
4. Quichotte
5. The Testaments
6.

Edited today, the 13th, to move Quichotte up from 6 to 4 because I find that I think of it more often and with more fondness than The Testaments, which I moved down to 5th, because while it was a page turner, it was flawed and has had no staying power with me.


message 21: by Chris (last edited Oct 13, 2019 04:33PM) (new)

Chris Blocker (chrisblocker) | 44 comments  
 
1. Girl, Woman, Other (58%)
2. 10 Minutes, 38 Seconds in this Strange World
3. Ducks, Newburyport (30%)
4. An Orchestra of Minorities
5. The Testaments
6. Quichotte


message 22: by Ella (last edited Sep 15, 2019 09:26AM) (new)

Ella (ellamc) | 1018 comments Mod
EDITED AGAIN: 14th Sept 2019

1. Girl, Woman, Other by Bernardine Evaristo
2. Ducks, Newburyport by Lucy Ellmann
3. An Orchestra of Minorities by Chigozie Obioma
4. Quichotte by Salman Rushdie
5. 10 Minutes 38 Seconds in this Strange World by Elif Shafak
(really 3-5 are a three-way tie for me, so should I number them all 3?)
A very distant 6th is:
6. The Testaments by Margaret Atwood


message 23: by Charlott (new)

Charlott (halfjill) | 10 comments 1. Girl, Woman, Other
2. 10 Minutes 38 Seconds in this Strange World
3. An Orchestra of Minorities


message 24: by Michael (last edited Oct 09, 2019 10:26AM) (new)

Michael | 4 comments 1. Ducks, Newburyport
2. Girl, Woman, Other
3. An Orchestra of Minorities
4. Quichotte
5. 10 Minutes 38 Seconds in this Strange World
6. The Testaments


message 25: by Amanda (last edited Sep 19, 2019 06:10AM) (new)

Amanda (tnbooklover) | 98 comments 1. Girl, Woman, Other
2. 10 Minutes 38 Seconds in this Strange World
3. Ducks, Newburyport
4. The Testaments
5. Quichotte
6. An Orchestra of Minorities


message 26: by LindaJ^ (last edited Sep 15, 2019 03:53PM) (new)

LindaJ^ (lindajs) | 672 comments 1. Girl, Woman, Other
2. Quichotte
3. 10 Minutes 38 Seconds in this Strange World
4. The Testaments
5. An Orchestra of Minorities
6. Ducks, Newburyport

I liked Quichotte better than GWO, but I don't think Rushdie needs another Booker win. While I still have a quarter of The Testaments to finish, I had to change my ranking, as of the six books on the short list, it is going to fall in third absent a meltdown that I do not expect. Sept 15 edit - the last quarter of The Testaments has caused me to move it down a slot from 3rd (where I put it when 3/4s through) to 4th.


message 27: by Karen Michele (last edited Oct 13, 2019 05:10AM) (new)

Karen Michele Burns (klibrary) | 197 comments 1. Quichotte
2. Girl, Woman, Other (I haven't read this, though)
3. Ducks, Newburyport (In Progress)
4. 10 Minutes 38 Seconds in this Strange World
5. An Orchestra of Minorities
6. The Testaments


message 28: by Britta (last edited Sep 17, 2019 12:15PM) (new)

Britta Böhler | 71 comments With 1 book to go (Quichotte )

1. Ducks, Newburyport (3*)
2.
3. 10 Minutes, 38 seconds (2*)
4. Girl, Woman, Other (2*)
5. The Testaments (2*)
6. Orchestra of Minorities (dnf)


message 29: by Tracy (new)

Tracy (tstan) | 356 comments 1. Girl, Woman, Other
2. Quichotte
3. 10 Minutes 38 Seconds
4. The Testaments
5. Ducks Newburyport
6. An Orchestra of Minorities


message 30: by Debra (last edited Sep 29, 2019 07:26AM) (new)

Debra (debrapatek) | 365 comments Final Ranking: 29 Sep 2019

1. Ducks, Newburyport
2. Quichotte
3. 10 Minutes, 38 seconds in this Strange World
4. An Orchestra of Minorities
5. Girl, Woman, Other
6. The Testaments


message 31: by David (last edited Sep 24, 2019 05:28AM) (new)

David (goodreadscombooksniffer) | 27 comments 1. Quichotte
2. Girl, Woman, Other
3. An Orchestra of Minorities
4. 10 Minutes 38 Seconds in this Strange World
5.
6.


message 32: by Tonymess (last edited Sep 15, 2019 08:19PM) (new)

Tonymess | 32 comments 1.
2. Quichotte
3. Girl, Woman, Other
4.
5. Orchestra of Minorities
6. 10 minutes

I think Girl, Woman, Other will win the prize, although I rate it behind Rushdie's. I'm leaving spot #1 for Ellmann but the more I read may result in it being demoted and others moving around accordingly. Unlikely I'll bother with the Atwood but it has to be better than Orchestra and 10 minutes (surely).


message 33: by Oryx (new)

Oryx | 10 comments 1. Ducks, Newburyport
2. Girl, Woman, Other
3. 10 Minutes, 38 Seconds in this Strange World
4. An Orchestra of Minorities


message 34: by Louise (new)

Louise | 222 comments 1. Girl, Woman, Other


message 35: by Amanda (last edited Oct 12, 2019 08:49PM) (new)

Amanda (north_by_northwest) | 8 comments 1.
2.
3. The Testaments
4. Quichotte
5. An Orchestra of Minorities
6. Ducks, Newburyport (DNF)


message 36: by But_i_thought_ (last edited Oct 11, 2019 02:14PM) (new)

But_i_thought_ (but_i_thought) | 130 comments 1. Girl, Woman, Other (8.5/10, review)
2.
3. Quichotte (current read)
4. Ducks, Newburyport (5.5/10, review)
6. The Testaments (5/10, review)
5. 10 Minutes (DNF)


message 37: by Scott (new)

Scott Boyd | 124 comments 1. An Orchestra of Minorities
2. Girl, Woman, Other
2. 10 Minutes, 38 Seconds in This Strange World
4. Ducks, Newburyport
5. Quichotte
6. The Testaments


message 38: by Darryl (new)

Darryl (kidzdoc) | 0 comments 1. Girl, Woman, Other
2. 10 Minutes 38 Seconds in This Strange World
3. Quichotte

I plan to read An Orchestra of Minorities this weekend, and The Testaments and Ducks, Newburyport next week.


message 39: by Dylan (last edited Oct 14, 2019 08:25AM) (new)

Dylan (dylansbooknook) | 79 comments 1. Girl, Woman, Other
2. An Orchestra of Minorities
3. 10 Minutes 38 Seconds in This Strange World
4. Quichotte
5. The Testaments

I am a third of the way through Quichotte so this is a guess. I haven't cracked Ducks yet and suspect I will have only scratched its surface by the time the winner is announced.

I'm surprised by how well placed An Orchestra of Minorities is in my ranking - certainly didn't expect this when I first finished it but it has lingered in my mind. 10 Minutes 38 Seconds I would say is on par with Orchestra for me.

The Testaments, while enjoyable, simply does not deserve to win. I will be sorely disappointed if it does. [In fact, having read it, I'm a little miffed it made it onto the shortlist - it just seems so much weaker than the other books despite being the most easily readable of the bunch.]

EDIT: After having finished Quichotte and scratched the surface of Ducks, and with only a few hours until the announcement, I stand by my original ranking above. I have no idea where Ducks will slot into the list yet, but am certain it will beat out The Testaments.


message 40: by Bob (new)

Bob Lopez | 28 comments 1. Girl, Woman, Other
2. 10 Minutes 38 Seconds in This Strange World
3.
4. Testaments
5.
6. Orchestra of Minorities


message 41: by Susanne (new)

Susanne | 55 comments 1. An Orchestra of Minorities
2. Girl, Woman, Other
3. Quichotte
4. Ducks, Newburyport
5. 10 Minutes 38 Seconds in This Strange World
6. The Testaments

I'm still reading Ducks, so this ranking might change slightly


message 42: by Laura (new)

Laura  (loranne) | 17 comments I think Bernadine Evaristo will win.


message 43: by Susanne (new)

Susanne | 55 comments Laura wrote: "I think Bernadine Evaristo will win."
I'm inclined to agree and I feel that anyone who buys the book (if it wins) on the basis of its win is in for a treat. I also think they might be especially inclined to award a female winner this year, but who knows?
As an Arabic saying goes, 'a piece of news that is worth money today will be free tomorrow.' In other words, we'll find out soon enough.


message 44: by Sam (new)

Sam | 1713 comments 1.Quichotte
2.
3.10 Minutes
4 Orchestra
5. Ducks (DNF)
6. Testaments

I only received my copy of 10 Minutes today but after reading a few chapters, I feel confident in my ranking.


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