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message 1: by Danielle (new)

Danielle (danielledore) I have read many fiction books set in England, in King Henry III's court, Elizabeth I's court, and so on. But I am interested now in the same time period (or about) but in the French court. Any good suggestions?


message 2: by Cathie (new)

Cathie | 38 comments One good book that can be read as a stand alone (but is actually Book 2 of 6 of The Lymond Chronicles) is Dorothy Dunnett's Queens Play during the time of a young Mary Queen of Scots in France, Queen Catherine de Medici and King Henry II (Valois) set in France. The books are somewhat of a travelog and each one is in a different place set in the mid-1500s about a Scottish nobel, Francis Crawford, Master of Lymond. Lady Dunnett writes historical fiction and weaves her fictional characters in with real people and events. Excellent reading.


message 3: by Mandy (new)

Mandy Moody | 544 comments I just got The Devil's Queen A Novel of Catherine de Medici from the Library. Haven't read it yet, but it looks good!
It's about Catherine de Medici, mostly after Henry's death, I believe. That would be at the same time Elizabeth was ruling in England.
Right now I'm just finishing up Dumas The Two Diana's, which is during Henry II's reign, while Mary is in power in England.

I'm also interested in reading about Francis I's court, but haven't come across any books about it! I'm interested to hear suggestions on that time period, as well.


message 4: by Misfit (new)

Misfit | 696 comments Just about most of Dumas would suffice, and I'm quite spoiled as to how he portrays the French Monarch. He wrote a six volume series on the French Revolution (although not all of the action takes place at court). There are the Musketeer series that covers most of Louis XIV's reign, The Three Musketeers, Twenty Years After, The Vicomte De Bragelonne, Louise de la Valliere and The Man In The Iron Mask.

He also wrote The Two Dianas set during Henri II's reign and La Reine Margot which deals with the Bartholomew Day massacre. Catherine de Medici is delightfully OTT in this one.

I ended up pretty *meh* on The Devil's Queen and she kinda ticked me off with a couple of the plot twists at the end that she didn't discuss in her author's notes. Looking forward to CW Gortner's book on Catherine next year.

I'm sure there's plenty of Plaidy novels but I'll let Susan or Sarah list those out.

As for Francis I there is The Serpent and the Moon Two Rivals for the Love of A Renaissance King which I understand deals quite a bit with his life, despite the appearance of being about de Poitiers. It's a bit controversial and opinions are all over the board but I've got it on the pile to read one of these days.


message 5: by Tanzanite (new)

Tanzanite | 76 comments Plaidy has 4 books (the first three focus on Catherine de Medici):

The Italian Woman
Madame Serpent
Queen Jezebel
Evergreen Gallant (Henri IV)
I've read all four of these and they are your run of the mill Plaidy. Not bad - good introduction to the period and the people involved.

There's also a book about Catherine and her dealings with Nostradamus (sp?) "The Master of All Desires" by Judith Merkle Riley. I have this one but haven't read it yet.


message 6: by Tara (new)

Tara Chevrestt Tanzanite, Seeing you seem to know your Plaidy, what do you know about her upcoming book scheduled for March 1010? Is is something about The Queen of Philip II...

Danielle, I don't read too many French ones, but one that does come to mind, tho it takes place in a later time period is Abundance A Novel of Marie Antoinette. Definitely had a lot of the French court in it.


Susanna - Censored by GoodReads (susannag) | 378 comments Antonia Fraser's Marie Antoinette The Journey is excellent - it is non-fiction, though.


message 8: by Tanzanite (new)

Tanzanite | 76 comments Tara, It's called "For a Queen's Love" and is the story of Philip II's childhood and his three wives. It's original title was The Spanish Bridegroom.


message 9: by Tara (new)

Tara Chevrestt Tanzanite, thank you! I was wondering if it was a reprint. Have you read it? I suppose one of those wives is Mary Tudor?


message 10: by Tanzanite (new)

Tanzanite | 76 comments This is one that I haven't read, nor do I own it. I may buy the new version, along with the other one that is being released at the same time - A Favorite of the Queen (a/k/a Gay Lord Robert).


message 11: by Danielle (new)

Danielle (danielledore) Thanks everyone, I think I will read about Marie Antoinette next :)


message 12: by Tanzanite (new)

Tanzanite | 76 comments Danielle,

I may have misunderstood your original inquiry so I limited my suggestions to the time of Henry VIII (which is what I thought you meant) and Elizabeth I. If you are interested in other time periods, there is an out of print series by Maurice Druon called "The Accursed Kings" which is set in France a couple of hundred years before Francois I. They were written originally in French and English versions can be hard to come by and expensive, although some libraries have them. The Series includes:
The Iron King; The Strangled Queen; The Poisoned Crown; The Royal Succession; The She-Wolf of France and The Lily and the Leopard.

For the French Revolution, Catherine Delors, Mistress of the Revolution is good. There is also Plaidy's series on Marie and Louis as well as Victoria Holt's The Queen's Confession.

For a book about Charles VII, there is Dinah Lampitt/Deryn (sp) Lake's The King's Women.


message 13: by Patricia (new)

Patricia Mccormick (pmccormick) | 2 comments Tara wrote: "Tanzanite, Seeing you seem to know your Plaidy, what do you know about her upcoming book scheduled for March 1010? Is is something about The Queen of Philip II...

Danielle, I don't read too ma..."


Didn't Jean Plaidy die in the early 1990's?? Has someone taken over as ghost writer?


message 14: by Tanzanite (new)

Tanzanite | 76 comments yes to your first question and no to the second. Her books are being reissued (some with new names).


message 15: by Chrissie (last edited Aug 28, 2009 10:17PM) (new)

Chrissie Deborah Cadbury wrote The Lost King of France: How DNA Solved the Mystery of the Murdered Son of Louis XVI and Marie Antoinette. This title gives completely the wrong impression, the book is about Marie Antoinette and Louis XVI and their lives! I suggest you read the review by Grumpus. I want to read this, but I will read Abundance: A Novel of Marie Antoinette by Naslund first.


Susanna - Censored by GoodReads (susannag) | 378 comments I think Spider King a Biographical Novel of Louis XI of France is older (1950s), but historical fiction about the French court. I read it as a teenager and recall liking it.


message 17: by Cathie (new)

Cathie | 38 comments Bernard Cornwall and his wife wrote about the French Revolution in a book called Fallen Angel which I believe has been republished recently. He does very well in describing battles.


message 18: by Sara W (new)

Sara W (sarawesq) | 2153 comments Tara wrote: "Tanzanite, thank you! I was wondering if it was a reprint. Have you read it? I suppose one of those wives is Mary Tudor?"

I read and own The Spanish Bridegroom and enjoyed it. It does get confusing with all these Plaidy books being reissued with new titles. I own practically all of them, but when I see a new title, I always think that I might have missed one or maybe a long lost manuscript was found. Wishful thinking on my part I suppose!


message 19: by Chrissie (new)

Chrissie Sara W, I HATE that when there are two or more names for the same book. European versus American editions frequently have different names. So confusing!


message 20: by Mandy (new)

Mandy Moody | 544 comments I need a book about Mary Stuart - something really good.
Recomendations?



message 21: by Chrissie (last edited Sep 01, 2009 08:54AM) (new)

Chrissie Mandy you were looking for a book about Mary Stuart.

Well here is a book you could check out: Mary Queen of Scotland and the Isles by Margaret George. I have not read it yet, but I want to.




message 22: by Emily (new)

Emily | 53 comments Who has read The Hidden Diary of Marie Antoinette: A Novel and what did you think about it?

I am coming up to the end of this one right now and kind of looking forward to being done with it. It started out fairly interesting and now it has lost its pizzaz.




message 23: by Tanzanite (new)

Tanzanite | 76 comments Emily wrote: "Who has read The Hidden Diary of Marie Antoinette: A Novel and what did you think about it?

I am coming up to the end of this one right now and kind of looking forward to being done with it. ..."


I didn't care for it much.


message 24: by Emily (new)

Emily | 53 comments Maybe I tried this backwards - reading the Fraser book on Marie Antoinette first - because it was so in depth and interesting it seems I am now spoiled to other accounts of Antoinette's life. I also don't love the way Antoinette is portrayed in this story.


Susanna - Censored by GoodReads (susannag) | 378 comments I found Fraser's book excellent.


message 26: by Sara W (new)

Sara W (sarawesq) | 2153 comments Mandy wrote: "I need a book about Mary Stuart - something really good.
Recomendations?
"


Plaidy has a two-parter series, but I can't remember much about it, so it must not have been really good (but if you get it from the library it might be worth a shot - I don't remember it being bad). The books are called The Royal Road to Fotheringay and The Captive Queen of Scots.


message 27: by Lindz (new)

Lindz (miss_bovary00) I am reading a biography on Mary Stuart by Antiona Fraser, yes I know not a novel. But I am really liking it. She gets a little caught up in the Scottish line of succession, you it is a little in sane, and can make your head hurt a little, but it is incredibly interesting. Fraser is really making the Queen really stand up for me.


message 28: by Emily (new)

Emily | 53 comments Just came across this today while reading about Marie Antoinette on Wikipedia.

Anyone read this? Madame Royale by Elena Maria Vidal. It looks very interesting. Probably no chance of finding it an used book shop or library around here.


message 29: by Cdoming3 (new)

Cdoming3 | 2 comments Desiree is an old, old book - but wonderful about Napoleon's "true" love! A Tale of Two Cities is great too, with the French Revolution as backdrop. On a much lighter, but quite enjoyable note, The Scarlet Pimpernel.


Susanna - Censored by GoodReads (susannag) | 378 comments The movie of The Scarlet Pimpernel made back in '34 was on Turner Classic Movies the other week - I am such a complete sucker for that one.


message 31: by Sandra (last edited Sep 15, 2009 06:18AM) (new)

Sandra (sandragulland) | 20 comments I'm delighted to discover a thread on French Court Fiction!

I enjoyed Desiree, and thought Abundance A Novel of Marie Antoinette outstanding. For non-fiction, Fraser is always fantastic, IMO.

I've posted an Amazon.com a list of novels set during the reign of Louis XIV, the Sun King:

http://www.amazon.com/Fiction-set-in-...

(My own novel included.) I've noted in the introduction to that list that the novels listed are not all novels I recommend (many I've not even read). Some I love and have noted so.

If you're interested in the Napoleonic era, there is my own Josephine B. Trilogy (please forgive the SSP: shameless self-promotion), but many, many other fine novels, including one by the Booker prize favorite this year, Hilary Mantel's A Place of Greater Safety (although, set during the Revolution, it's certainly not about "the Court").

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message 32: by Chrissie (new)

Chrissie Sandra I have your Josephine B Tril;ogy sitting here on my shelf; I am guessing that I will love it. I splurged and bought quite a few books so that is why I do not jump in immediately. It is not a question of zipping through books; you have to take the time to enjoy them too.


message 33: by Sandra (new)

Sandra (sandragulland) | 20 comments Chrissie, my own shelves are burdened with more wonderful TBR books than I could possibly read in my lifetime!


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message 34: by Chrissie (new)

Chrissie Sandra, no, I mean I have actually bought your trilogy books - real shelves, not virtual ones!


message 35: by Sandra (new)

Sandra (sandragulland) | 20 comments Yes, I understand, and thank you!


message 36: by Michelle (new)

Michelle (ashtarasky) | 9 comments Sandra-

I've read the trilogy and Mistress...and now buy and them and give them out as gifts to all my girlfriends...I loved every second of each book and so does everyone else I know. My mother and I were just talking about the Josephine Trilogy the other day and wondering if it will ever be a movie. Sigh! Question: WHEN are you going to give us another book and what will it be about? I can't wait:)


message 37: by Sandra (new)

Sandra (sandragulland) | 20 comments Michell...two years later! Thank you so much! I am just now reading through the 9th draft of IN THE SERVICE OF THE SHADOW QUEEN (working title). It will be published in the spring of 2014. Novels take a long time!


message 38: by Sandra (new)

Sandra (sandragulland) | 20 comments PS. It will be a television mini-series. More in my newsletter: http://www.sandragulland.com/contacts/


message 39: by Sandra (new)

Sandra (sandragulland) | 20 comments Dear Lena,

It was certainly Louis XIV and his sister-in-law, Henriette, would have been the British woman. She did die young, and at the time it was rumoured that she'd been poisoned (although not likely true). She was the sister of Charles II.

That's all I can say -- I don't know the name of this novel, but perhaps with this information you can find it.

Good luck!

Sincerely,

Sandra Gulland

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message 40: by Mary (last edited Dec 19, 2012 09:36PM) (new)

Mary | 26 comments Mandy wrote: "I need a book about Mary Stuart - something really good.
Recomendations?
"


Antonia Fraser's Mary, Queen of Scots,is excellent.


message 41: by Mary (new)

Mary | 26 comments Sandra wrote: "Yes, I understand, and thank you! "

I have your trilogy sitting in my TBR pile on my night table as well. Looking forward to reading it!


message 42: by Sandra (new)

Sandra (sandragulland) | 20 comments Mary wrote: "Sandra wrote: "Yes, I understand, and thank you! "

I have your trilogy sitting in my TBR pile on my night table as well. Looking forward to reading it!"


I hope you enjoy them, Mary!


message 43: by KOMET (new)

KOMET | 71 comments As a Napoleonic Era aficionado, I read the Empress Josephine trilogy several years ago and LOVED it.

I'm always on the lookout for more novels, not only of the Napoleonic Era, but also of the ancien regime.


message 44: by Sandra (new)

Sandra (sandragulland) | 20 comments The court of the Sun King iS fascinating! My latest novel is set in that court, and a second will be published in the spring of 2014.

Sandra


message 45: by Sandra (new)

Sandra (sandragulland) | 20 comments KOMET wrote: "As a Napoleonic Era aficionado, I read the Empress Josephine trilogy several years ago and LOVED it.

♥♥♥ Thank you!


message 46: by KOMET (new)

KOMET | 71 comments Sandra wrote: "The court of the Sun King iS fascinating! My latest novel is set in that court, and a second will be published in the spring of 2014.

Sandra"


Will look out for the paperback edition. :)


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