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message 1: by Rob, Roberator (new) - rated it 4 stars

Rob (robzak) | 6719 comments Mod
Its long suffering is over, after going 2-5 in book polls over the year, Tom has decided to pick The Martian Chronicles for our May pick.

Tassie Dave called it!


Jenny (Reading Envy) (readingenvy) | 2839 comments So exciting! I loved reading these strange and beautiful stories.

And then later on I read Annihilation by Jeff VanderMeer and felt there were similarities... I'll be interested in seeing if anyone else sees them too.


Priscilla (gcrokzzzzz) | 44 comments I’m excited! I’ve never read Ray Bradbury 🙈


Shad (splante) | 345 comments Excellent choice. Definitely an author that should be on the Sword and Laser bookshelf. Especially fitting since Theft of Swords was finally picked.


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John (Taloni) Taloni (johntaloni) | 3870 comments Oooh, Yanni! Let's see what this Marti guy and his chronicles are about.


Misti (spookster5) | 470 comments Looking forward to reading this one but why is the ebook $11.99? Sheesh! Good thing I found a used Prime eligible copy on Amazon for around $6.


message 7: by Tassie Dave, S&L Historian (new) - rated it 3 stars

Tassie Dave | 3497 comments Mod
Not the Bradbury I would have chosen. But I am looking forward to it. I have never read this book, despite being a huge Ray Bradbury fan for over 40 years.

Rob wrote: "Tassie Dave called it!"

I even bought it a few weeks ago I was so sure ;-)

It seemed inevitable. Tom has hinted several times he was going to use his dictatorial powers to pick it.


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Adva Barkai | 9 comments Looking forward to it. I've read Ray Bradbury in the past but never this one.


Trike | 8188 comments Rob wrote: "Tassie Dave called it!"

Dave’s a slan.


Ruth (tilltab) Ashworth | 1861 comments Tassie Dave wrote: "I even bought it a few weeks ago I was so sure ;-)"

Same! I saw your post, thought to myself "oh boy, he's right!" and snapped it up right away. It helped that it was selling for a quid at the time. ;P


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William Reed | 7 comments Skipping this month I guess. Bradbury never grabbed me.


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Iain Bertram (iain_bertram) | 1276 comments Just reserved the audiobook from the library...

I remember it fondly from my youth, too many years ago, Looking forward to the listen.


terpkristin | 4120 comments This disappoints me. One of the reasons I always voted against it was that the version easily available (Kindle and paperback from Amazon) is, per the reviews, an updated version with a key story removed. Having read various summaries, it seems like it really changes the perspective and may have been removed for "PC" type reasons. I have noticed that the Audible version (by Audible studios) reviews mention the removed chapter, so I am cautiously optimistic that it may be the "best" edition if one can't find the non-edited paperback at a library or used book store.

The update reminds me a little of Solaris. For many years, the estate of Lem said that the English print translation was awful. Someone else had the rights and did the audiobook translation, and per his estate, that was considered the "definitive" version. Apparently in 2011 a newer, better translation was published. I assume the Lem estate approves.


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Dara (cmdrdara) | 2693 comments Excited to read this, altered version or not. I read Fahrenheit 451 for a book report in high school and really liked it. I’m looking forward to revisiting Mr. Bradbury (and having Rachel Bloom’s “F*ck Me, Ray Bradbury” stuck in my head the entire time).


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John (Taloni) Taloni (johntaloni) | 3870 comments terkpristin, care to elaborate? If it is for PC reasons I think I can guess the story. Its omission would be a shame, especially since we recently read Lovecraft Country.


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John (agni4lisva) | 192 comments At long last. Good decision Supreme Sword Sir :-)

I bought it when it failed the last vote and it is still, cough, in my TBR pile. Not for much longer...


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Mark (markmtz) | 2243 comments John (Taloni) wrote: "terkpristin, care to elaborate? If it is for PC reasons I think I can guess the story. Its omission would be a shame, especially since we recently read Lovecraft Country."

One of the stories left out of some editions is "Way in the Middle of the Air" but there are many editions that include it. If your copy doesn't have it, here's a link to a PDF of the pulp magazine where the story was first published. File size is 59 Mb.

Way in the Middle of the Air (The Martian Chronicles) by Ray Bradbury, Other Worlds, July 1950
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1DLNo...

More pulp links to come!


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Mark (markmtz) | 2243 comments As promised, more fiction mag links. Many of the stories in The Martian Chronicles were originally published in pulp and fiction magazines. Some of them have been scanned and are online. These are all that I've found, in the order they appear in the book's table of contents. Note: Some of the PDFs are very large and slow to download.

Rocket Summer (The Martian Chronicles) by Ray Bradbury, Planet Stories, Spring 1947
https://archive.org/details/Planet_St...

I'll Not Ask for Wine (aka "Ylla", The Martian Chronicles) by Ray Bradbury, Maclean's, January 1, 1950
https://archive.macleans.ca/issue/195...

Mars is Heaven! (aka "The Third Expedition", The Martian Chronicles) by Ray Bradbury, Planet Stories, Fall 1948
https://archive.org/details/Planet_St...

Interim (The Martian Chronicles) by Ray Bradbury, Weird Tales, July 1947
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1smz7...

Way in the Middle of the Air (The Martian Chronicles) by Ray Bradbury, Other Worlds, July 1950
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1DLNo...

The Long Years (The Martian Chronicles) as by Roy Bradbury, Maclean's, September 15, 1948
https://archive.macleans.ca/issue/194...

There Will Come Soft Rains (The Martian Chronicles) by Ray Bradbury, Collier's, May 6, 1950
http://www.unz.com/print/Colliers-195...

The Million-Year Picnic (The Martian Chronicles) by Ray Bradbury, Planet Stories, Summer 1946
https://archive.org/details/Planet_St...


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Mark (markmtz) | 2243 comments Many of Bradbury's stories were adapted for EC Comics. Here are links to scans of the Martian Chronicles stories adapted.

Weird Fantasy #17
"There Will Come Soft Rains"
https://marswillsendnomore.wordpress....

Weird Fantasy #21
"The Million-Year Picnic"
https://marswillsendnomore.wordpress....

Weird Fantasy #22
"The Silent Towns"
https://marswillsendnomore.wordpress....

Weird Science #17
"The Long Years"
https://marswillsendnomore.wordpress....

Weird Science #18
"Mars is Heaven!"
https://marswillsendnomore.wordpress....

Doug Wildey, West Magazine, The Martian Chronicles Comic Strip (Los Angeles Times, March 12, 1972). West Magazine, the weekly supplement to The Los Angeles Times, specially commissioned a three-page comic strip based on Ray Bradbury's The Martian Chronicles.
https://thebristolboard.tumblr.com/po...


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Mark (markmtz) | 2243 comments TV, radio and spoken word links.

The Martian Chronicles tv mini-series
https://archive.org/details/The_Marti...

Leonard Nimoy reads Ray Bradbury's "There Will Come Soft Rains" from "The Martian Chronicles"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzhlU...

Leonard Nimoy reads Ray Bradbury's "Usher II" from "The Martian Chronicles"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHqS_...

Ray Bradbury’s The Martian Chronicles: A Radio Drama Starring Derek Jacobi & Hayley Atwell (2014)
https://archive.org/details/TheMartia...

Spectrum Vision - Million Year Picnic [The Martian Chronicles]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVUBs...

Trollwood - Ylla [The Martian Chronicles]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZjng...


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Mark (markmtz) | 2243 comments And the man himself, a young Ray Bradbury with Groucho Marx on an episode of You Bet Your Life

You Bet Your Life #55-35 Science fiction author Ray Bradbury (Secret word 'House', May 24, 1956)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBTrU...


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Mark (markmtz) | 2243 comments More Bradbury material on YouTube

Ray Bradbury on Madmen (animated interview)
https://youtu.be/2ciQoov55fM

The Martian Chronicles - A Dying Race - Extra Sci Fi - #11
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3tnh...

The Martian Chronicles - Too Human - Extra Sci Fi - #12
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dr6G7...

The Martian Chronicles - The New Martians - Extra Sci Fi - #13
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJulz...

The Earthmen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORRuv...

Mars is Heaven
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MeIf...

Dimension X Radio Show The Martian Chronicles
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFyiA...


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Mark (markmtz) | 2243 comments If you've ever seen the tv mini-series based on The Martian Chronicles, then you need these toys based on the tv mini-series

http://www.plaidstallions.com/racktoy...


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Mark (markmtz) | 2243 comments An essay by Bradbury, published shortly before he passed away, and his NYT obit

Take Me Home, essay by Ray Bradbury, May 28, 2012
http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/20...

Ray Bradbury, Who Brought Mars to Earth With a Lyrical Mastery, Dies at 91
https://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/07/bo...


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Mark (markmtz) | 2243 comments The first edition which now sells for thousands of $




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Mark (markmtz) | 2243 comments The first paperback edition which doesn't sell for big $




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Mark (markmtz) | 2243 comments The first UK hardcover edition which has a slightly different line-up of stories.




message 28: by Rob, Roberator (new) - rated it 4 stars

Rob (robzak) | 6719 comments Mod
So I went to look at my review of this. I got a newer audio book version (narrated by Mark Boyett) and it looks to have the story in question.

Here was my take:

"Apart from one story (Way in the Middle of the Air) which made me really uncomfortable and showed it's age. It appears to have been eliminated from several of the more recent editions of this book, and I wish I had skipped it as it really adds very little to this collection"

Full review: https://www.goodreads.com/review/show...


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Mark (markmtz) | 2243 comments The first UK paperback edition.




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Mark (markmtz) | 2243 comments The graphic novel with art by Dennis Calero

Excerpt at Tor.com
https://www.tor.com/2011/05/11/the-ma...




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Mark (markmtz) | 2243 comments A few of the stories from The Martian Chronicles are adapted in issues 1, 2, 3 and 5 of The Ray Bradbury Chronicles

https://www.goodreads.com/series/1211...


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Mark (markmtz) | 2243 comments The many editions and their covers at ISFDB

http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/titlecov...


terpkristin | 4120 comments John (Taloni) wrote: "terkpristin, care to elaborate? If it is for PC reasons I think I can guess the story. Its omission would be a shame, especially since we recently read Lovecraft Country."

From one Amazon review (many say this): “This book has been extensively altered from the original and classic Martian Chronicles. All of the dates Bradbury used in the chapter headings have been changed, rendering the Cold War/Atomic Age context of the book meaningless. One of the most important chapters "Way in the Middle of the Air", which establishes the violence and hatred endemic in the American culture which invades Mars has been completely removed from the book. An additional, inferior chapter, "The Fire Balloons" which was never part of the original book, has been put in its place. Don't buy this re-hash, find an older version and buy that.”

That said, I have the audio edition Rob is talking about and as he noted, his review (and others) that the story is in there.


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Mark (markmtz) | 2243 comments The illustrated edition, artwork by Ian Miller

https://marswillsendnomore.wordpress....




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Mark (markmtz) | 2243 comments The ISFDB page for The Martian Chronicles has table of contents for many editions, and notes about missing or added stories, so if you aren't sure about a particular edition, look it up here.

http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cg...

Significant changes seemed to start with the 1997 edition.


message 36: by Phil (new) - rated it 4 stars

Phil | 1136 comments Thanks for all that, Mark.


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Mark (markmtz) | 2243 comments Last post. Ray Bradbury has been drawn, sketched, painted, cartooned, and animated by countless artists. He was truly the illustrated man. This one is from the cover of Famous Monsters of Filmland #265, art by Simon Thorpe.




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Mark (markmtz) | 2243 comments Ok, one more last post. I've uploaded cover images for the pulp and fiction magazines with stories that were included in The Martian Chronicles, over at the S+L wiki. Scroll down for the most recent additions to this page. The first Martian story is Rocket Summer.

https://swordandlaser.fandom.com/wiki...


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Mark (markmtz) | 2243 comments Enough already. Yes, yet another one more last post. Searching here at Goodreads, it looks like there are individual catalog entries for many, if not all, of the stories in The Martian Chronicles. So, if you're in the Short Story challenge, you can add them all to your challenge.

For example, Way in the Middle of the Air June 2003/2034


Ruth (tilltab) Ashworth | 1861 comments Dara wrote: "(and having Rachel Bloom’s “F*ck Me, Ray Bradbury” stuck in my head the entire time)."

Every. Single. Time. His name. Is mentioned.

Noooooooooooooooooo!


message 41: by Ruth (new) - rated it 4 stars

Ruth | 974 comments Ordered the paperback from the library. It’s an older edition (1995) so I think it’ll probably include the controversial story.


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Erik Melin | 114 comments For cheap used copies Biblio is awesome if anyone is looking. I just got a new copy (love me some Bradbury) but checked anyways and there are a bunch available for dirt cheap.

I'm excited to read this personally. Something Wicked and Fahrenheit 451 are two of my favorites. I am curious about whether I bought a copy with the aforementioned story. I should check these threads briefly first with older books it seems.


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Anne Schüßler (anneschuessler) | 828 comments I've read The Martian Chronicles years ago, unfortunately the book is one of the 40 book boxes still in storage, so I might sit this one out without re-reading and just listen to the podcast and read the discussion threads.


message 44: by Seth (new) - rated it 4 stars

Seth | 301 comments I'm kinda new, and one of the reasons I joined was to have motivation to read things I wouldn't otherwise. This one definitely fits in that category - I've bounced off of several sci-fi classics in the past. Looking forward to it.


message 45: by Phil (last edited Apr 24, 2019 07:45AM) (new) - rated it 4 stars

Phil | 1136 comments Bradbury is kind of the antithesis of the other classic authors like Heinlein, Asimov, and Clarke. He's way more about imagery, metaphor, and emotions than the others. His writing will piss off some people because of the lack of accurate science but it is beautiful to read.


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Shad (splante) | 345 comments Thought it was interesting to see a character named Nathaniel York show up in one of the early stories.


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Mark (markmtz) | 2243 comments Dara wrote: "Rachel Bloom’s “F*ck Me, Ray Bradbury” stuck in my head the entire time"

If you want this song stuck in your brain while you read Bradbury, here you go

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZG38V...


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Mark (markmtz) | 2243 comments Bradbury has a cameo on the Simpsons around 1:43. If you blink, you'll miss it.

https://youtu.be/CtgYY7dhTyE


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Dara (cmdrdara) | 2693 comments I just got my copy of the book that I ordered from Amazon and it has the original text with "Way in the Middle of the Air" and the original dates for the stories.

I bought the MMPB version ISBN: 978-1-4516-7819-2


William | 401 comments William wrote: "Skipping this month I guess. Bradbury never grabbed me."

On the other hand Mirror Universe William (myself) bought a copy after voting for Martian Chronicles in March Madness.


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