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message 1: by Ashley (new)

Ashley Farley (bookalicious) | 15 comments The poll is live for this month's book selection!

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Ashley Farley (bookalicious) | 15 comments Please vote for a time that works best for you!

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Kirstie | 25 comments Hey folks! I just want to make sure that everyone is aware of this objection to the author, Caroline Criado-Perez: This just popped up in a twitter thread today:

The open letter is 5 years old, so I think it’s probably reasonable to read this book, but maybe keep in mind Criado-Perez’s history of excluding BAME and trans women? We can always discuss that aspect when we meet. Alternatively we could pick another book if anyone in the group would prefer not to spend time with this particular author. What do you all think?

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Naomi Penfold (naomipenfold) | 51 comments Mod
Hi Kirstie,

Thanks so much for bringing this to my attention. Personally, I'd rather select another book. If the group is interested to explore what happens when design is exclusive to only a subset of the intended users, perhaps there is another book to choose that digs into this? I am not familiar with one off the top of my head, does anyone else know of one? (Surely there is one...I hope)

I feel it's an important topic, one I'd like to approach, but not with this author if that is the lens through which they approach the subject. (How much of that lens is baked into their wording and between the lines in this book? I don't want to spend time on it, to be honest.)


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Daniela Saderi | 20 comments Thank you Kirstie for bringing this up.

I agree with Naomi. I'd be happy to change book. I don't have a good recommendation on what to read instead, but I am interested in the topic. I just tweeted #openasinbook asking for recommendation on this topic. I'll post here any good reply.

If we want to keep the momentum going for this round, we can always read another in the list. I vote for the origin of capitalism.

Thanks Ashley for organizing.


message 6: by Daniela (last edited May 14, 2019 12:34PM) (new)

Daniela Saderi | 20 comments Here's the link to the Twitter thread with some suggestions, including books, podcasts, and zines:

This was a book that was recommended, "Building Access
Universal Design and the Politics of Disability" by Aimi Hamraie I think this book is primarily focused on disabilities, which is something I too often fail to consider appropriately. I added the book to our group bookshelf. I hope that's helpful.

message 7: by Ashley (new)

Ashley Farley (bookalicious) | 15 comments Definitely happy to change books.

Looking back at the poll - what about Origin of Capitalism? It seems to have the support of the group.

It's fairly short too, which will be helpful.

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Jessica | 3 comments Ashley wrote: "Definitely happy to change books.

Looking back at the poll - what about Origin of Capitalism? It seems to have the support of the group."

I'd be excited for this!

message 9: by Daniela (new)

Daniela Saderi | 20 comments That book is waiting for me on my desk!

message 10: by Ellen (new)

Ellen Phillips | 4 comments I like the looks of this one too. I bought the other one about data and have bias before we decided to go with something else.

I actually thought the sections they I read were really just a collection of anecdotes and I was wondering if there was going to be more to it in the later chapters. It was interesting, though. I totally understand about the issues surrounding the author.

message 11: by Ashley (new)

Ashley Farley (bookalicious) | 15 comments Hi all,

Apologies for more work but I've created a Doodle poll to find the best time for the discussion. Also to give us more time to read :)

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Ashley Farley (bookalicious) | 15 comments CANCELED!

After chatting with a few folks in the group offline this book does not seem like a good fit. With a small group attending to begin with I think it would be best to give everyone a Friday hour back and work together to find a better fit.

What we need is to find a book similar to Blue Print for a Revolution...

Apologies for the chaos

message 13: by Naomi (new)

Naomi Penfold (naomipenfold) | 51 comments Mod
Hi everyone -- this session didn't happen in the end and we're moving forward to a new book for August time. More to follow in a new discussion thread! Thanks for your patience :)

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