The Sword and Laser discussion

500 views
March Madness 2019 - Finals (Voting Ended March 26th)

Comments Showing 1-50 of 99 (99 new)    post a comment »
« previous 1

message 1: by Rob, Roberator (new)

Rob (robzak) | 5566 comments Mod
Checkout the full Bracket


Voting for the finals will be March 20th 12:01AM EST - March 26th 11:59PM EST

See below for the round breakdown with links to each poll

Finals

(1) Theft of Swords by Michael J. Sullivan

vs.

(2) The First Fifteen Lives of Harry August by Claire North

Vote Here


message 2: by Rob, Roberator (new)

Rob (robzak) | 5566 comments Mod
It's been "chalk" all the way, but I'm expecting The First Fifteen Lives of Harry August to run away wit h it.

Maybe that's just the pessimist in me.

Go Theft of Swords!


message 3: by Ruth (tilltab) Ashworth (last edited Mar 20, 2019 03:11AM) (new)

Ruth (tilltab) Ashworth | 1566 comments Rob wrote: "It's been "chalk" all the way, but I'm expecting The First Fifteen Lives of Harry August to run away wit h it.

Maybe that's just the pessimist in me.

Go Theft of Swords"


Yeah, I hope I am wrong, but I think for the second year running, the book I am least interested in reading (of all the March Madness books) will win.


message 4: by Benji (new)

Benji | 10 comments I was secretly hoping that The First Fifteen would loose early on as I wanted to read it now.

I wont be upset if Theft of Swords wins though. both look really interesting. I have been voting for both the whole way...

Except for this round of course.


message 5: by Sheila Jean (new)

Sheila Jean | 150 comments Theft of Swords all the way!

I've read both but Theft of Swords is a book I recommend to others. Also, if you're an audio book person, the narration is outstanding.


message 6: by Trike (new)

Trike | 5226 comments I feel like if Theft of Swords wins, Rob will be running around his house like Jonathan E at the end of Rollerball.

theft of swords
Theft of Swords
Theft Of Swords
THEFT OF SWORDS
THEFT OF SWORDS!

https://youtu.be/IguzgGx7y-8


message 7: by Dara (new)

Dara (cmdrdara) | 2462 comments I was really pulling for The Martian Chronicles. Eh, oh well.


message 8: by David (new)

David (farrakut) | 802 comments Dara wrote: "I was really pulling for The Martian Chronicles. Eh, oh well."

Something I've found in my experience running polls in another group is that with many books is that sometimes people just don't aren't interested or won't vote for an older book (obviously not always the case). Either because they've read it already, or just don't like older writing styles. I think at this point of trying for how many years that Tom just needs to pick it as a dictator pick because if you put it in a poll against something shiny & new, it's not going to win.


message 9: by Jessica (new)

Jessica (J-Boo) | 232 comments Wow, the books I vote for are still winning, in a reversal of last year's March Madness! The First Fifteen Lives book sounds really interesting to me, but at this point I'll be happy with either contestant winning.


message 10: by Mark (last edited Mar 20, 2019 07:18AM) (new)

Mark (markmtz) | 1145 comments ok, some background research on the finalists, if you're so inclined ;-P

Michael J. Sullivan
https://scottsigler.com/podcast/frida...

Claire North aka Catherine Webb
https://www.imaginaryworldspodcast.or...
(behind a pay wall, but you can sign up for a free trial)

Here's another that isn't behind a pay wall
https://www.tor.com/2015/06/25/midnig...

On mercenaries
https://www.careeraddict.com/become-a...

On time travel
https://www.scientificamerican.com/ar...


message 11: by Rob, Roberator (new)

Rob (robzak) | 5566 comments Mod
Trike wrote: "I feel like if Theft of Swords wins, Rob will be running around his house like Jonathan E at the end of Rollerball.

theft of swords
Theft of Swords
Theft Of Swords
THEFT OF SWORDS
THEFT OF SWORDS..."


At this point because I've been pushing for the group to read it for so long, I feel like there will be a huge letdown to some people because of all the hype.

That book is far from my favorite he's written, but some of the latter books were, and that's the best starting point in my opinion.

Like as David and Dara mentioned in the round 3 thread there are some issues there. For me they were small enough that I continued on to the later books which I enjoyed more

But none of that matters because I've already resigned myself to the fact that it's not going to win..

I will say normally I skip rereads (which has been all 3 books for me this year) but if Theft actually wins I plan to reread it since I've read about 8 more Ryria books since then.


message 12: by Mark (last edited Mar 20, 2019 09:02AM) (new)

Mark (markmtz) | 1145 comments If I understand the Roberator correctly, those of us voting for Theft of Swords must heed these words...

Lasciate ogne speranza, voi ch’intrate.
Dante Alighieri, Inferno, 1472


message 13: by William (new)

William | 280 comments The winner is going to be:

Theft of Swords (which I want to read)
OR
The First Fifteen Lives of Harry August (which I've read and is great)

I'm celebrating Naw Ruz and would like to thank the group for starting my day off with good news! :-)


message 14: by Aaron (new)

Aaron (oldwindways) | 36 comments This is tough, I now want to read both. In a straight comparison, I would be voting for The First Fifteen Lives of Harry August, but I think my weakness for supporting the long-suffering underdog may force me to vote for Theft of Swords.


message 15: by Rob, Roberator (last edited Mar 20, 2019 10:14AM) (new)

Rob (robzak) | 5566 comments Mod
Mark wrote: "If I understand the Roberator correctly, those of us voting for Theft of Swords must heed these words...

Lasciate ogne speranza, voi ch’intrate.
Dante Alighieri, Inferno, 1472"


That seems a bit extreme..

I really liked the book, or I wouldn't keep recommending it. Nor would I be willing to waste my time rereading it with the group if it won.

Especially knowing that once I start I'll be tempted to reread the rest. Although my recollection is the first 2 stories are stand-alone enough that I can probably just stop there.

I just think it's a series that improves a lot in terms of both writing and story.

Here is my review of Theft of Swords for anyone interested: https://www.goodreads.com/review/show...


message 16: by Rob, Roberator (new)

Rob (robzak) | 5566 comments Mod
Aaron wrote: "This is tough, I now want to read both. In a straight comparison, I would be voting for The First Fifteen Lives of Harry August, but I think my weakness for supporting the long-suff..."

Yeah, I want to read Fifteen Lives as well. And I already own it, but this is the 4th year I've pushed to get Theft nominated and I just want to see it finally win! :-D


message 17: by Mark (new)

Mark (markmtz) | 1145 comments Rob, I don't care what Dante said, I'm still voting for Theft of Swords ;-)


message 18: by John (Taloni) (new)

John (Taloni) Taloni (JohnTaloni) | 2755 comments Too bad for Martian Chronicles. I shall appeal to the dictator for a pick later on! (channeling AC/DC: For those about to read, we salute you!)

As for the final matchup, First Fifteen Lives of Harry August is a good book, but I'm fine with our long serving helpful Mod having his way. One vote for Theft of Swords coming up.


message 19: by Pat (new)

Pat A | 21 comments I've forgotten. Was our diabolical plan to give Rob the win he's been pushing for or to get him to the finals and then dash his hopes?

In all seriousness, super excited for either pick.


message 20: by John (Nevets) (new)

John (Nevets) Nevets (Nevets) | 1061 comments I'm quoting this from another the thread from round 1. I'm just impressed with how many of Tom's picks have come true. Will he continue his streak through the finals? And dash Rob's hopes and dreams in the process? Only time will tell. Tune in next week for another thrilling episode of "TOM CONTROLS THE WORLD" echo..echo.echo.

Tom wrote: "Time to make some predictions before I get spoiled by knowing the voting trends.

Round 1
Theft of Swords will survive to take on The Poppy War
NPCS will upset Trail to face Red Sister
First Fifteen Lives squeaks through to take on Nexus due to Ramez's name-recognition and Goodreads calling Year One fantasy
Sympathy wave propels Martian Chronicles on to face After Atlas

Round 2
Theft will sail to an epic faceoff against Red Sister who barely fends off NPCs
First Fifteen stomps into the Smis while old man Bradbutry hangs on by a thread over Emma

Semifinals
In the tightest match in a long time Theft makes it to the finals
First Fifteen faces its first real challenge but ends up sending Martian back to plea for a dictatorial pick

Finals
Laser is vindicated as First Fifteen upsets Theft in a nail biter."



message 21: by David (new)

David (farrakut) | 802 comments He was completely wrong about the Trail of Lightning matches at least, so my comment from the original thread holds true. :)


message 22: by Rick (new)

Rick | 2275 comments Wasn't Rob going to send all of us $20 if Theft wins? :P

I've read Fifteen lives and loved it. Not read Theft or anything by that author. Will have to think about this.


message 23: by Trike (new)

Trike | 5226 comments David wrote: "He was completely wrong about the Trail of Lightning matches at least, so my comment from the original thread holds true. :)"

Tom intentionally threw that prediction in order to sow doubt about his time-tuner powers so we wouldn’t BURN HIM AS A WITCH!!!one!!


message 24: by William (new)

William | 280 comments John (Nevets) wrote: "I'm quoting this from another the thread from round 1. I'm just impressed with how many of Tom's picks have come true...."

It's almost as if he's seen it all before...which life are you on Tom?

#TomIsAnOuroboran


message 25: by Maclurker (new)

Maclurker | 89 comments I just checked and my local library has both Fifteen and Theft. So who cares which book wins? I'm reading both! :-0

(But I voted anyway. Go Theft!)


message 26: by Aaron (new)

Aaron (oldwindways) | 36 comments Yeah, in addition to making sure both of them were on my Want to Read list, I put both on hold at my local library.

Maclurker wrote: "I just checked and my local library has both Fifteen and Theft. So who cares which book wins? I'm reading both! :-0

(But I voted anyway. Go Theft!)"



message 27: by Mark (last edited Mar 21, 2019 07:52AM) (new)

Mark (markmtz) | 1145 comments John (Taloni) wrote: "Too bad for Martian Chronicles. I shall appeal to the dictator for a pick later on! (channeling AC/DC: For those about to read, we salute you!)"

Ray Bradbury was born August 22, 1920, so we can celebrate his life by reading one of his books August 2020. The question is which Bradbury book?


message 28: by John (Taloni) (new)

John (Taloni) Taloni (JohnTaloni) | 2755 comments ^ Meaning, Martian Chronicles or Fahrenheit 451? I'd still go with Martian Chronicles. And yes, he has other great works, but those are the top 2.


message 29: by Melanie (new)

Melanie | 47 comments Something Wicked is my favorite Bradbury novel.


message 30: by Trike (new)

Trike | 5226 comments John (Taloni) wrote: "^ Meaning, Martian Chronicles or Fahrenheit 451? I'd still go with Martian Chronicles. And yes, he has other great works, but those are the top 2."

I recently read Fahrenheit 451 and it exploded my brain. It was his debut novel, too.


message 31: by Ben George (new)

Ben  George | 61 comments I read Fahrenheit 451 recently and found it to be a drudge. Is there something wrong with me?! O.o


message 32: by Brendan (last edited Mar 21, 2019 05:58PM) (new)

Brendan (mistershine) | 924 comments Ben wrote: "I read Fahrenheit 451 recently and found it to be a drudge. Is there something wrong with me?! O.o"

Probably not. Bradbury was a reactionary bore at times.


Ruth (tilltab) Ashworth | 1566 comments Ben wrote: "Is there something wrong with me?! O.o"

Nah, we all like different things. That 'Bobbyverse' book won March Madness and was the most popular book we read last year, but I found it dull at best. I also like pineapple on pizza. Shrug.


message 34: by Tassie Dave, S&L Historian (new)

Tassie Dave | 2498 comments Mod
Every book we read has varying opinions from love to outright hate. Which is what you'd expect in such a large and varied group.

I'm fine with whichever book wins. I've read Theft of Swords and loved it and will re-read it and TFFLoHA sounds cool.

Ruth (tilltab) Ashworth wrote: "I also like pineapple on pizza. Shrug. "

Nothing wrong with pineapple on pizza, that's a Hawaiian Pizza here. The weird things to put on pizza are olives and/or anchovies (yuck) :-P


message 35: by Mark (new)

Mark (markmtz) | 1145 comments Garlic chicken and green chile pizza with Theft of Swords or TFFLoHA on the side.


message 36: by Jen (new)

Jen | 139 comments Mark wrote: "John (Taloni) wrote: "Too bad for Martian Chronicles. I shall appeal to the dictator for a pick later on! (channeling AC/DC: For those about to read, we salute you!)"

Ray Bradbury was born August ..."


If we don't read him August of this year, we DEFINITELY should read him August 2020!


message 37: by Jen (new)

Jen | 139 comments I think I'll be happy if either book wins, but I voted Theft for the Roberator! (got any of those high-fives left, Rob?)


message 38: by Iain (new)

Iain Bertram (Iain_Bertram) | 719 comments Just picked up both from the library. One on audio and the other in dead tree so I can "read" both....


message 39: by Louie (new)

Louie (RMutt1914) | 687 comments Trike wrote: "I recently read Fahrenheit 451 and it exploded my brain. It was his debut novel, too."

Have you seen/Planning on seeing the Michael B. Jordan adaptation HBO did last year? – Not even going to ask about the 1966 adaptation. Needless to say, it was very French, but I also really like Truffaut, so...


message 40: by Rob, Roberator (new)

Rob (robzak) | 5566 comments Mod
Jen wrote: "I think I'll be happy if either book wins, but I voted Theft for the Roberator! (got any of those high-fives left, Rob?)"

Definitely! *high fives Jen*


message 41: by Trike (new)

Trike | 5226 comments Louie wrote: "Trike wrote: "I recently read Fahrenheit 451 and it exploded my brain. It was his debut novel, too."

Have you seen/Planning on seeing the Michael B. Jordan adaptation HBO did last year? – Not even going to ask about the 1966 adaptation. Needless to say, it was very French, but I also really like Truffaut, so...."


I haven’t seen the new one yet. I also liked the Truffaut version, but I saw it in 1984 when we did a marathon at film school when he died, so it’s been a while. (Seemed like every Halloween in the 80s we had a movie marathon because a famous filmmaker passed away.)


message 42: by Jannik (new)

Jannik (jann1k) | 30 comments Fahrenheit 451 is another classic I need to re-read. I think I was 15-ish when I read it for the first time. Also, watching Fahrenheit in 1984 sounds pretty meta :P


message 43: by Pat (new)

Pat A | 21 comments I think I’m going to do the same as Iain and get one on audiobook and one in dead tree. Given Rob’s review of Theft’s audio, I think I’ll do that and grab FFLoHA in hard copy.


message 44: by Rob, Roberator (new)

Rob (robzak) | 5566 comments Mod
Yeah, the Riyria books are excellent in audio!


message 45: by Scott (new)

Scott (Dodger1379) | 116 comments Theft of Swords was my "find" of the past twenty years and I've been looking for an excuse to reread it. I've given this book to so many people and everyone has fallen in love with this world and the characters.

I have not read Harry August and would like to read it sometime but at this moment I just want the most people possible to join in the fun and mastery of Theft of Swords! Unbelievable plotting, the best characters in fiction, great dialogue - who am I kidding? I am probably going to reread the whole series again anyway whether it wins or loses.


message 46: by Mark (new)

Mark (markmtz) | 1145 comments If you've already voted in S&L's March Madness, Amazon Prime Video has a Sci-Fi Series Championship with voting on Twitter.

https://twitter.com/PrimeVideo/status...




message 47: by Tassie Dave, S&L Historian (new)

Tassie Dave | 2498 comments Mod
I look at those brackets and the best sci-fi series on both sides (IMHO) doesn't stand a hope in hell of getting through.

I'd love to see The Expanse up against Orphan Black. I know it ain't going to happen ;-)

Twin Peaks as Sci-Fi is a hard sell for me. It's fantasy all the way.


message 48: by John (Taloni) (new)

John (Taloni) Taloni (JohnTaloni) | 2755 comments I went and voted, was fun. Buuuuut....Twin Peaks in and Firefly not?


message 49: by Robert (new)

Robert Lee (harlock415) | 169 comments It was a good run for it, Ray Bradbury.


message 50: by John (Nevets) (new)

John (Nevets) Nevets (Nevets) | 1061 comments John (Taloni) wrote: "I went and voted, was fun. Buuuuut....Twin Peaks in and Firefly not?"

They must not have the license for it. In fact I’m guessing that was part of the reasoning behind the bracket, to draw attention to all the shows they do have licensed.

Still, it is a more fun way to do it then just running an ad.


« previous 1
back to top