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message 1: by Kate S (new)

Kate S | 6459 comments As we drove from the Puget Sound to Montana in door to door smoke this year for the first time ever and dealt with a fire close by the cabin we rent, I couldn’t help thinking about climate change. Read a book about climate change. If it is not clear from the book synopsis on the GR page, please include a sentence or two about how the book qualifies in the appropriate help thread.

Please post any questions or appropriate clarifying remarks in this thread.


message 2: by Karen Michele (new)

Karen Michele Burns (klibrary) | 5296 comments When I was writing possible tasks, I came across this unique listopia that titled the task:

https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/3...


message 3: by Valerie (new)

Valerie Brown | 3293 comments I assumed, though, from the way the task is worded that we can read non-fiction??


message 4: by Karen Michele (new)

Karen Michele Burns (klibrary) | 5296 comments Valerie wrote: "I assumed, though, from the way the task is worded that we can read non-fiction??"

Yes, absolutely! The list is just for examples of fiction possibilities.


message 5: by Valerie (new)

Valerie Brown | 3293 comments Karen Michele wrote: "Valerie wrote: "I assumed, though, from the way the task is worded that we can read non-fiction??"

Yes, absolutely! The list is just for examples of fiction possibilities."


Great! Thanks!


message 6: by Karin (last edited Sep 05, 2018 11:58AM) (new)

Karin Karen Michele wrote: "When I was writing possible tasks, I came across this unique listopia that titled the task:

https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/3..."


But check the books first. I can't for the life of me figure out why The Book of Strange New Things is on there. Not only is it not set on earth, it's not about climate change. That said, I think I gave it 4 stars and it's well written, just not about that at all.

But I noted, and won't read it again because I disliked it and discarded it, that Maddaddam has 9 letters (well, I can't remember if it's about climate change but it may well be--I chiefly remember all of the genetically modified animals and foods and a number of other things and have forgotten if it handled this as well.


message 7: by Karin (new)

Karin Also, for the record Lighthouse Island not only its this perfectly, it has a 10 letter word for a combo. I am not planning to reread it, but thought I'd mention it for others.


message 8: by Ed (new)

Ed Lehman | 2651 comments Will Wondering, the Way is Made: A South American Odyssey work? It's on the listopia you provided and has this phrase in the GR blurb: "...with a climate that grows harsher and wilder with each passing season,..."


message 9: by Karen Michele (last edited Sep 05, 2018 01:51PM) (new)

Karen Michele Burns (klibrary) | 5296 comments Karin wrote: "Karen Michele wrote: "When I was writing possible tasks, I came across this unique listopia that titled the task:

https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/3..."

But chec..."


I noticed that book, too, and I agree that you will have to check books on the list. The Margaret Atwood series, Oryx and Crake, The Year of the Flood and MaddAddam, as I look more closely at it is "iffy". A plague caused the dystopian world, not climate change, but there are environmental concerns, especiaIly in The Year of the Flood. I don't remember if climate change is a specific part of any of the three books, so you would have to read them first or look for more information before claiming them here. I enjoyed the audios for these as there is music performed in some of them. You could use them for 10.2 Next?, though.


message 10: by Karen Michele (new)

Karen Michele Burns (klibrary) | 5296 comments Karin wrote: "Also, for the record Lighthouse Island not only its this perfectly, it has a 10 letter word for a combo. I am not planning to reread it, but thought I'd mention it for others."

This one looks great and it's on my TBR!


message 11: by Karen Michele (new)

Karen Michele Burns (klibrary) | 5296 comments Ed wrote: "Will Wondering, the Way is Made: A South American Odyssey work? It's on the listopia you provided and has this phrase in the GR blurb: "...with a climate that grows harsher and wild..."

Yes, it fits. I wish my library had it, but I might have to buy this one!


message 12: by Rosemary (new)

Rosemary | 4342 comments I plan to read The Drowned World which looks like it should definitely fit. And he was born in China so combo with 10.7.

But I also have The Bees by Laline Paull, which is also on that Listopia. From the description, it doesn't sound like it would fit. Has anyone read it?


message 13: by Beth (new)

Beth Robinson (bethrobinson) | 1174 comments I saw Green Mars etc on the list. Deliberately changing the climate of another planet still counts?


message 14: by Karen Michele (new)

Karen Michele Burns (klibrary) | 5296 comments Rosemary wrote: "I plan to read The Drowned World which looks like it should definitely fit. And he was born in China so combo with 10.7.

But I also have The Bees by Laline Paull, w..."


The Drowned World looks perfect! I don't remember anything in The Bees by Paull that was specific to climate change, though, so no on that one.


message 15: by Karen Michele (new)

Karen Michele Burns (klibrary) | 5296 comments Beth wrote: "I saw Green Mars etc on the list. Deliberately changing the climate of another planet still counts?"

Yes, Green Mars sounds fine.


message 16: by Karen Michele (new)

Karen Michele Burns (klibrary) | 5296 comments I am still going back and forth on the Maddaddam series since the books are on the list and I remember them "feeling" like climate change books. I will do some research to jog my memory.


message 17: by Karen Michele (new)

Karen Michele Burns (klibrary) | 5296 comments I have found two articles that support the Maddaddam books for climate change issues, so they are now approved!

https://www.theguardian.com/books/boo...

https://eco-fiction.com/climate-chang...


message 18: by Karen Michele (new)

Karen Michele Burns (klibrary) | 5296 comments Here's a link to more climate change authors on the eco-fiction site:

https://eco-fiction.com/spotlight-on-...


message 19: by Tien (new)

Tien (tiensblurb) | 3115 comments Karen Michele wrote: "When I was writing possible tasks, I came across this unique listopia that titled the task:

https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/3..."


Any book for this task works then?


message 20: by Karen Michele (new)

Karen Michele Burns (klibrary) | 5296 comments Tien wrote: "Karen Michele wrote: "When I was writing possible tasks, I came across this unique listopia that titled the task:

https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/3..."

Any book..."


No, not necessarily. This is still the requirement:

If it is not clear from the book synopsis on the GR page, please include a sentence or two about how the book qualifies in the appropriate help thread.

I'm posting lists for ideas and inspiration:)


message 21: by Tien (new)

Tien (tiensblurb) | 3115 comments I think I found one actually available at the library for me :)

The Swan Book


message 22: by Karen Michele (new)

Karen Michele Burns (klibrary) | 5296 comments Tien wrote: "I think I found one actually available at the library for me :)

The Swan Book"


I enjoyed that book! I'm glad you found one. Nonfiction is fine, too, if that interests you.


message 23: by Karin (new)

Karin I just read one that fits well, The Calculating Stars. It's an alternative historical scifi book that is based on events following a meteorite (larger than meteors) that wreaks devastating climate change, and its the first book in a series.

I haven't decided if I'm going to post it under completed tasks yet because I haven't had time to figure out my reading plan for fall RwS yet.


message 24: by Bea (new)

Bea I think I found one...(gee, Karin, what a tough challenge!): Flight Behavior. One of the reviews note that "In Flight Behavior, she (Barbara Kingsolver) sends a strong message out about the effects of climate change on our Earth."


message 25: by Karen Michele (new)

Karen Michele Burns (klibrary) | 5296 comments Bea wrote: "I think I found one...(gee, Karin, what a tough challenge!): Flight Behavior. One of the reviews note that "In Flight Behavior, she (Barbara Kingsolver) sends a strong message out a..."

Sorry that it is tough! I didn't mean it to be difficult, but I guess challenging is good;)

Flight Behavior is another great choice! I love Kingsolver and I think her newest book, Unsheltered will work, too, although I'm planning on it for the birthdates portion.


message 26: by Karen Michele (new)

Karen Michele Burns (klibrary) | 5296 comments Karin wrote: "I just read one that fits well, The Calculating Stars. It's an alternative historical scifi book that is based on events following a meteorite (larger than meteors) that wreaks deva..."

Another great find! On my TBR it goes!


message 27: by Karin (last edited Sep 06, 2018 01:05PM) (new)

Karin I read this book which has a more literary take on climate change California It only has a 3.2+ rating or something like that, so read the blurb and reviews first--I only gave it 2 stars but then I have given low ratings to some popular books as well.

Here are a couple of links, but I haven't checked every title:

https://electricliterature.com/these-... and it includes at least one classic scifi
some overlap here but not 100 percent https://www.ozy.com/good-sht/7-novels...


Here is an interesting article on HuffPost about Climate Change novels: https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/...


message 28: by Lagullande (last edited Sep 07, 2018 03:05AM) (new)

Lagullande | 1131 comments Another resource for cli-fi books: "Burning Ashes'' -------- A Global Cli-Fi Forum.


message 29: by Megan (new)

Megan (gentlyread) | 358 comments Bea wrote: "I think I found one...(gee, Karin, what a tough challenge!): Flight Behavior. One of the reviews note that "In Flight Behavior, she (Barbara Kingsolver) sends a strong message out a..."

Oh, I'm glad to see Flight Behavior works for this task! I had that penciled in as a possibility for 20.9.


message 30: by Karen Michele (new)

Karen Michele Burns (klibrary) | 5296 comments Thank you for adding extra resource links!


message 31: by Sam (new)

Sam (theliteraryhooker) | 1008 comments I had American War planned last season but didn't get to it, pretty sure it'll fit here.


message 32: by Karen Michele (new)

Karen Michele Burns (klibrary) | 5296 comments American War works. I read it at the cabin and enjoyed it!


message 33: by Tien (new)

Tien (tiensblurb) | 3115 comments Huntress is described as follows;

Nature is out of balance in the human world. The sun hasn't shone in years, and crops are failing. Worse yet, strange and hostile creatures have begun to appear. The people's survival hangs in the balance.

Would you take this as 'climate change' albeit magical causes?


message 34: by Karen Michele (new)

Karen Michele Burns (klibrary) | 5296 comments Tien wrote: "Huntress is described as follows;

Nature is out of balance in the human world. The sun hasn't shone in years, and crops are failing. Worse yet, strange and hostile creatures have be..."


Yes, it will work:)


message 35: by Tien (new)

Tien (tiensblurb) | 3115 comments Great! Thanks, Karen Michele!


message 36: by Valerie (new)

Valerie Brown | 3293 comments Does climate change due to an apocalypse qualify?

A Canticle for Liebowitz


message 37: by Karen Michele (new)

Karen Michele Burns (klibrary) | 5296 comments I’d say yes, because the effects on people would be similar. The Atwood books are similar.


message 38: by Valerie (new)

Valerie Brown | 3293 comments Karen Michele wrote: "I’d say yes, because the effects on people would be similar. The Atwood books are similar."

Ok, thanks!


message 39: by Heather (new)

Heather (sarielswish) | 738 comments A question. I posted a completed task for 20.5 for The Obelisk Gate by N.K. Jemisin *before* this task was posted. The Broken Earth trilogy is very definitely centered around the idea of climate change, even though it's not terribly clear from the synopsis. The whole idea of the world itself is that periodically, they will have 'seasons' where some sort of cataclysmic climatic or environmental change will drastically affect a large chunk of the population (algae blooms, polar shifts, volcanic winter, etc.) and the plot of the series is that the worst one that has *ever* happened has occurred and people don't know what's going on, except for a few. Anyway, that makes my original post a combo. What do I need to do to get the points for that?


message 40: by Karen Michele (new)

Karen Michele Burns (klibrary) | 5296 comments I agree that they count ( I’ve read book 1 and I’m considering a re read or book 2 this season). I think now that I’ve said yes, you can ask for the combo to be added in the completed task thread. Mods?


message 41: by Heather (new)

Heather (sarielswish) | 738 comments Karen Michele wrote: "I agree that they count ( I’ve read book 1 and I’m considering a re read or book 2 this season). I think now that I’ve said yes, you can ask for the combo to be added in the completed task thread. ..."

I was also making sure the trilogy qualified because I've got the third book up on my computer right now.... won three awards last year, so lots of bonus points too!


message 42: by Karen Michele (new)

Karen Michele Burns (klibrary) | 5296 comments Heather wrote: "Karen Michele wrote: "I agree that they count ( I’ve read book 1 and I’m considering a re read or book 2 this season). I think now that I’ve said yes, you can ask for the combo to be added in the c..."

Oh, that sounds good! I'm having a bit of trouble finding books that fit tasks and have multiple awards, although I have found a few.


message 43: by Heather (new)

Heather (sarielswish) | 738 comments Karen Michele wrote: "Heather wrote: "Karen Michele wrote: "I agree that they count ( I’ve read book 1 and I’m considering a re read or book 2 this season). I think now that I’ve said yes, you can ask for the combo to b..."

Yeah, The Stone Sky won the Hugo and the Nebula for best novel and the Locus for best Fantasy this year. I said last year but the book came out last year. Plus it counts for combo for the next in a series AND single female main character.


Elizabeth (Alaska) Heather wrote: "Anyway, that makes my original post a combo. What do I need to do to get the points for that?

"


Heather, am referencing these posts in our Mods group so Kate will get it next time. But usually in these circumstances, Karen is right, make a post in the completed tasks thread and be sure to mention the post number.


message 45: by Heather (new)

Heather (sarielswish) | 738 comments Elizabeth (Alaska) wrote: "Heather wrote: "Anyway, that makes my original post a combo. What do I need to do to get the points for that?

"

Heather, am referencing these posts in our Mods group so Kate will get it next tim..."


I wasn't sure, which is why I asked here. Thanks!


Elizabeth (Alaska) Heather wrote: "I wasn't sure, which is why I asked here. Thanks! "

Not a problem. You wanted to verify the book(s) fit the task, which helps us too!


message 47: by Karen Michele (new)

Karen Michele Burns (klibrary) | 5296 comments Heather wrote: "Karen Michele wrote: "Heather wrote: "Karen Michele wrote: "I agree that they count ( I’ve read book 1 and I’m considering a re read or book 2 this season). I think now that I’ve said yes, you can ..."

I'm glad you brought up this series. I just ordered a print copy of book 1 (The Fifth Season for anyone interested) from the library to do a re-read. I listened to it my first time through, and I think I was a little too distracted by other things while listening because I got confused.
I have a kind of crazy secondary goal every season of finding a 100 point (or more;) book, but it hasn't happened for me yet (unless it was way back in the challenge years before I was trying).


message 48: by Kate S (new)

Kate S | 6459 comments Per this conversation I have added all three books of The Broken Earth trilogy for task 10.8 this season.


message 49: by Anika (new)

Anika | 2813 comments Would Zeitoun work for this one? It's about Hurricane Katrina. I know it's a natural disaster, but climate science would indicate that the worsening severity and increased occurrence of hurricanes are related to climate change...


message 50: by Karen Michele (new)

Karen Michele Burns (klibrary) | 5296 comments I’m still thinking about this one. I read it and it was a good book, but I don’t remember if there was anything in the book itself that spoke to climate change. It is similar, though, to the book I just read and counted. Will you be reading it whether or not it fits here?


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