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message 1: by Gordon (last edited Sep 01, 2018 12:24PM) (new)

Gordon (skiiltan) | 2940 comments Some people here will already know about my intense hatred of advertising. It is one of life's major irritations for me that a small number of things I really want to watch - at the moment, test match highlights - are on commercial television channels. I don't usually watch anything live but this evening I happened to be eating a takeaway (both little misses are out for the evening) while the cricket highlights were on, so I watched it as it was broadcast: adverts & all.

One of the adverts was Halifax Bank trying to con people out of their houses. It used a version of Bernard Cribbins's number-10 hit from 1962, Right Said Fred. Even ignoring the ethics of suggesting that home-owners should trust the advice of the company that stands to gain ownership of their house, rather than using an independent adviser acting on the home-owner's behalf, how lazy and uncreative is the ad agency that came up with this pathetic idea? I presume it's the same agency that produced the ad in which some dork is superimposed on clips from Ghostbusters to draw people's attention to the fact that they can make contactless payments with chip & pin cards, which customers of all banks have been able to do for about 10 years (http://adturds.co.uk/2018/08/17/halif...).

In the spirit of Private Eye's "Ad nauseum" column, does anyone else have examples of the kind of garbage that the charlie-fuelled detritus of the advertising industry inflict on the world?


message 2: by Tim (last edited Sep 01, 2018 01:09PM) (new)

Tim Franklin | 9070 comments It's hard to think of any adverts which don't make me want to turn my telly off in the style of the blessed Elvis (with a gun, for the unaware!), but one that stands out is the girl dragging some sap around by the hand for package holidays.


message 3: by TheFoe (last edited Sep 01, 2018 01:59PM) (new)

TheFoe | 2161 comments One of my main bug bearers concerning adverts, are the ones that use popular songs, normally ones that I quite like, and slow the tempo right down. Many a decent song has been ruined by these pathetic efforts. The next time you watch a batch of adverts I guarantee there will be one song sang at half tempo. Awful!

Edit - Must admit when I saw the heading 'Ad Nauseum,' I thought this was something to do with Tech's Clash obsession, (see Lists), as I said, awful! ;-)


message 4: by Isabella (new)

Isabella | 1067 comments Shampoo and cosmetic adverts that claim "95% of women agree that (insert ludicrous overblown claim)." Look lower down, "based on a sample of (usually) between 50 and 90 women".
The miraculous cosmetic has an alleged success with as few as 47 users, a statistic which is supposed to send us rushing out to transform ourselves into sleek-haired, smooth-skinned, glowing beauties that correspond to the air-brushed and underweight ideal, as shown by the media. Grrr!


message 5: by TheFoe (new)

TheFoe | 2161 comments Isabella wrote: "Shampoo and cosmetic adverts that claim "95% of women agree that (insert ludicrous overblown claim)." Look lower down, "based on a sample of (usually) between 50 and 90 women".
The miraculous cosme..."


Shouldn't worry, us men like ugly fatties. ;-)


message 6: by Lez (new)

Lez | 7490 comments I rarely see ads - I either record programmes and fast forward the ads or if watching live, I pause the start and again fast forward them. I can’t always avoid some though, and a pet hate is the Gladstone Brookes PPI one. It’s sneery and accusing and like all PPI ones, implying you need someone to apply on your behalf.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VPIv350...


message 7: by Brass Neck (last edited Sep 02, 2018 02:45AM) (new)

Brass Neck | 3894 comments 'Shouldn't worry, us men like ugly fatties.' - we have to, we have mirrors too.


message 8: by TheFoe (new)

TheFoe | 2161 comments Brass Neck wrote: "'Shouldn't worry, us men like ugly fatties.' - we have to, we have mirrors too."

:-)


message 9: by Lez (new)

Lez | 7490 comments Brass Neck wrote: "'Shouldn't worry, us men like ugly fatties.' - we have to, we have mirrors too."

;-)


message 10: by theDuke (last edited Sep 02, 2018 04:01PM) (new)

theDuke | 5787 comments Ice cream ads, especially those irritating Magnum ones..and the preposterous perfume ads, of which, there are no end of them on the lead up to xmas. Lynx ads are ridiculous too.....why do they always sell the promise of being on a promise with those ads....it's bollocks! And some car ads too...especially with the overuse of CGI, to imply their products can defy the laws of physics!

Daytime ads are also boringly repetitive, alongside those PPI ads, that Gordon has mentioned (can't wait for 2019 to come!), they're nearly always the same old miserable crap, Stannah stairlifts, walk in baths, self lifting chairs for the elderly, book your own 'low cost' funerals (ain't no 'fun' to had there!),' rest homes, and those stuffing con job that are those 50+ pension plans (Sunlife's PP is just garbage, and bollocks to the free parker pen an' all!) etc., on every single ad break on every single commercial channel...gee, just watching those ads, is enough to make one feel old & decrepit!

And...there is one other kind of ad, that, whilst I appreciate the need for them, I just hate the way they're done.....it's those begging bowl charity ads, featuring atrocious animal cruelty & malnourished children in war torn countries, like Syria. It's enough to break one's heart seeing that...and the 'retired' are subjected to it every day...me..i just cannot watch them.

Oh...and those two moustachioed, mullet haired gits from the 118 118 ads...they can &%£$ off too..i hate them!

And finally...the thrice damned betting ads too......which bright spark at government central thought it a good idea to allow gambling to be promoted? Debts are on the rise, more amd more gamblers are getting addicted to these con jobs (don't gamblers know, that betting sites are rigged in their company's favour..they exist to make money after all!).

Um......I think that's all of my pet ad hates...what's left, isn't that much better though!


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Tim Franklin | 9070 comments "which bright spark at government central thought it good idea to allow gambling to be promoted?"

As with so much bad in modern Britain, that's a gift from Teflon Tony.


message 12: by theDuke (last edited Sep 02, 2018 02:36PM) (new)

theDuke | 5787 comments Tim wrote: ""which bright spark at government central thought it good idea to allow gambling to be promoted?"

As with so much bad in modern Britain, that's a gift from Teflon Tony."


Ironic then, that the current lot, run by Mrs May...are practically dishing out a ban a day, as coined by one disgruntled Tory MP, but not gambling sites. Just things like the sale of energy drinks to kids, and such like.


message 13: by Isabella (new)

Isabella | 1067 comments theDuke wrote: "Tim wrote: ""which bright spark at government central thought it good idea to allow gambling to be promoted?"

As with so much bad in modern Britain, that's a gift from Teflon Tony."

Ironic then, ..."


What's sophisticated about sitting at home with a laptop, losing money? and yet the ads make it look glamorous and exciting, as if there is real interaction among real players, rather than a computer generated means of extracting cash from punters.


message 14: by Martin (new)

Martin O' | 2196 comments On line gaming is the next likely candidate for promoting saleable items to enhance your playing, mystery treasure chests or currency pertaining to a particular game. Apparently there are a number og gullible idiots who are frittering away their wages on such nonsense or worse still allowing their equally gullible children to access their bank accounts they have become so addicted to this pernicious habit. Serves the buggers right, I have no sympathy with them.
Also it won't be long to my own personal love to hate..... the annual deluge of festive commercialism that is Christmas!!🎅 ho ho ho!


message 15: by Tim (new)

Tim Franklin | 9070 comments theDuke wrote: "Tim wrote: ""which bright spark at government central thought it good idea to allow gambling to be promoted?"

As with so much bad in modern Britain, that's a gift from Teflon Tony."

Ironic then, ..."


Cracking down on the internet is sadly, something which would require multi-national agreements, probably. The government has cracked down on the machines in betting shops to reduce maximum stakes drastically. This particular genie is gonna be a hard one to put back in the bottle.


message 16: by theDuke (new)

theDuke | 5787 comments Tim wrote: "theDuke wrote: "Tim wrote: ""which bright spark at government central thought it good idea to allow gambling to be promoted?"

As with so much bad in modern Britain, that's a gift from Teflon Tony...."


It would help, albeit in a small way, to banish the TV ads for starters.....no need to promote debt, I think.


message 17: by Tim (last edited Sep 03, 2018 12:42AM) (new)

Tim Franklin | 9070 comments theDuke wrote: "Tim wrote: "theDuke wrote: "Tim wrote: ""which bright spark at government central thought it good idea to allow gambling to be promoted?"

As with so much bad in modern Britain, that's a gift from ..."


Agreed. If you banned all ads promoting debt or dodgy financial legal-scams, there wouldn't be a great deal left these days - betting/gambling, payday loans, equity release, those dreadful over 50 insurance plans, PPI, ambulance chasing lawyers. 😡


message 18: by Tech XXIII (new)

Tech XXIII  | 6727 comments "the girl dragging some sap around by the hand for package holidays"

in my mind the camera pans round to reveal the hand held belonging to some clatty jakey tramp covered in shight and fresh boak, with his nadgers hinging oot a hole in his troosers!

i am, as you know, easily amused!


message 19: by Tech XXIII (new)

Tech XXIII  | 6727 comments "Tech's Clash obsession"

hiy! :)


message 20: by suzysunshine7 (new)

suzysunshine7 | 14594 comments ... took ya long enough! ;o>


message 21: by Grizzlygrump (new)

Grizzlygrump | 5021 comments I'm more irritated by the times at which they put on some of these adverts - here I am sat down eating my breakfast and an advert for Anusol has just been on!


message 22: by Gordon (new)

Gordon (skiiltan) | 2940 comments Why are you watching television at breakfast time? Are you being punished for something?


message 23: by Grizzlygrump (new)

Grizzlygrump | 5021 comments I think I'm being punished for being ill! :)

I would normally just have a music or radio channel on as background noise but I'm not in charge of the remote this morning for another hour.


message 24: by Tech XXIII (new)

Tech XXIII  | 6727 comments i always watch the bbc's 'breakfast' until mrs tech gets up and turns it to 'everybody f****** loves f****** raymond' - it gets turned back when she goes to work.

had to google what 'anusol' is. well, they can stick that up their arse! might encourage folks to begin their 5 a day intake by having a few grapes with their breakfast! no?


message 25: by Martin (new)

Martin O' | 2196 comments Dinner at Chez O'Brien is usually roundabout 5/6 pm and is often accompanied by some unsavoury or inappropriate intrusion emanating from the tv greeted by " Do you mind? We're eating here!
If it isn't that it's unwarranted phone calls by some oik attempting to part me from my hard earned shekels for some artifact or service that I have no wish to acquire. For some reason the phrase "Sorry, I'm just not interested" doesn't appear to be in their vocabulary, usualpy ends with a very disgruntled me slamming the phone down with a few choice expletives!😠


message 26: by Lez (new)

Lez | 7490 comments Martin wrote: "Dinner at Chez O'Brien is usually roundabout 5/6 pm and is often accompanied by some unsavoury or inappropriate intrusion emanating from the tv greeted by " Do you mind? We're eating here!
If it i..."


I never answer the phone! That’s what messaging services are for. Family or friends will use my mobile if necessary. The ones that do leave a message are usually automated anyway.


message 27: by suzysunshine7 (new)

suzysunshine7 | 14594 comments I stick to 'safe' Channels and Shows. I have never successfully managed to become desensitized enough to be able to cope with any sad or shocking News Reports or to certain Adverts while sat in front of the TV - and especially while also eating a Meal.

My M&D seem to have no problem at all? An Animal Charity showing or reporting on such unbelievably terrible cruelties, a tiny Child heartbreakingly filmed whilst in the final stages of starvation, the last known CCTV footage of a Suicide or Murder Victim just before they disappeared forever or were horrifically attacked? ... M&D seemingly just take it all in their stride, tune in and yet also tune out at the same time, keep on with still putting forkfuls of Food into their Mouths.

Me, however? - I just get myself so shocked and disturbed and distressed and end up in often being haunted non-stop for days at a time by such things. It is why I deliberately chose to stop watching TV for about 5 years and why I have only very carefully and tentatively re-started again in the last 18 months.


message 28: by Lez (new)

Lez | 7490 comments A lot of the SSPCA and other animal charities are on in the afternoons in just about every ad break, they probably get special rates at that time. They’re upsetting enough for adults (I put the sound off and don’t watch) but any children watching could be badly affected for a long time.
They and the children’s charities obviously need to advertise, but I do think they should leave it till after the watershed. After all children won’t be able to donate and the older audience will still be around after 9.00pm.


message 29: by Collette (new)

Collette | 4551 comments Lez wrote: "A lot of the SSPCA and other animal charities are on in the afternoons in just about every ad break, they probably get special rates at that time. They’re upsetting enough for adults (I put the sou..."

I hate watching those animal adverts too. I either close my eyes and put my fingers in my ears when they come on, or turn over if it's on my own tv.


message 30: by Martin (new)

Martin O' | 2196 comments As distressing as these adverts obviously are given the subject matter I do have a few misgivings when donating to such worthy causes for several reasons. Where does the money actually go and what percentage actually end up where it is intended for? How effective is the charity in the long run? Probably medical ones for cancer etc are fairly productive, animal protection alright but undermined by handing out soft toys, updates, photographs and letters at a cost to the orginisation. Child cruelty, yes but I do wish they would drop the clause about eliminating the problem, unless you elimibate the causes this is never going to happen and infortunately as far as people go it's very unlikely such a time will ever be.


message 31: by theDuke (new)

theDuke | 5787 comments Nuisance pone calls, advertising this or that..never blerdy ends.

Latest one......Some unknown (to me) company informing me that my computer's internet service is compromised, an I need to change my IP address. Presumably involving terminating my existing internet service provider contract, at great cost, and disclosing my bank account details to them for a new service....yeah..... like that's gonna happen!

I keep my laptop up to date with it's antivirus software, malware, phishing..and whatever else is out there.....Bullguard takes care of it. I really hate the fact, that these bogus con artist companies, just will not take a hint....like...."*%&£ off will ya, and don't call me again!" Sheesh!


message 32: by Val (new)

Val H. | 15775 comments A radio talkback caller this morning said she confounds these pests by bursting into song. She says a good dose of Ether Merman ("I had a dream, a dream about you, baby/It's gonna come true, baby./They think that we're through, baby,...") or Topol ("If I were a rich man/Yubby dibby dibby dibby dibby dibby dibby dum/All day long I'd biddy biddy bum/If I were a wealthy man") has them inquiring "Are you alright madam?". As an adopted Welshman, you should be able to belt out something Duke?


message 33: by Tim (new)

Tim Franklin | 9070 comments theDuke wrote: "Nuisance pone calls, advertising this or that..never blerdy ends.

Latest one......Some unknown (to me) company informing me that my computer's internet service is compromised, an I need to change ..."


In the past we've had some woman with a heavy Indian accent telling us our Windows PC is screwed up. Such a delight to tell them we don't use Microsoft stuff here! 😂

A recent one however makes me apoplectic. Some 'c-word' with a mancunian accent phoning my mother and claiming she's agreed to donate to some child safety campaign, when I know she's done nothing of the sort. When I've happened to answer those calls, this creep has seemingly lost it if I have the gall to politely ask who's calling. The latest one of these was a woman trying it on. Seems even dirty scammers have some standards, lmao. Honestly though, sometimes I wish murder was legalised for scum such as this.


message 34: by Brass Neck (new)

Brass Neck | 3894 comments Grizzlygrump wrote: "I'm more irritated by the times at which they put on some of these adverts - here I am sat down eating my breakfast and an advert for Anusol has just been on!"

Bummer, dude.


message 35: by Brass Neck (last edited Sep 05, 2018 10:34AM) (new)

Brass Neck | 3894 comments Tech wrote: "i always watch the bbc's 'breakfast' until mrs tech gets up and turns it to 'everybody f****** loves f****** raymond' - it gets turned back when she goes to work.

had to google what 'anusol' is. w..."


You just stick with your Prep H, Tech. Oh, the Grapes Of Wrath, eh!

Who needs Anusol anyway when the sun already shines out of my ar......


message 36: by Brass Neck (new)

Brass Neck | 3894 comments On the topic of cold-callers I always put the phone down if there's even a nano-second of delay from the caller. I also put the phone down after a terse but not impolite, 'I'm not taking a cold-call thank you'. On one occasion I did this and moments later the phone went again and Mrs Neck answered to be informed by the clearly British call-centre employee that her husband had been very rude. Good job she didn't get through to me or she'd have discovered just how agricultural my rudeness can get when provoked by an unwanted intrusion into my home life.


message 37: by Lez (new)

Lez | 7490 comments I’m still wondering why so many of you actually answer the phone?


message 38: by theDuke (last edited Sep 05, 2018 11:30AM) (new)

theDuke | 5787 comments Lez wrote: "I’m still wondering why so many of you actually answer the phone?"

Because, one does occasionally receive genuine calls...like from family members, Lez! We don't all use mobiles..i don't....and I've never had an answerphone...so I have to pick up when it rings.


message 39: by suzysunshine7 (new)

suzysunshine7 | 14594 comments I don't give out my Mobile Number to anyone - except for my M&D and just a few close friends. It would never stop from ringing or getting lots of Texts on it otherwise from folk that I barely know or from Doctors' Clinics and the Dentist, etc.

I consider my Mobile to be my immediate and personal private Number for loved ones and for emergencies only - and the House Landline Number is given out whenever necessary and is there for everything else ;o>


message 40: by Brass Neck (new)

Brass Neck | 3894 comments Lez wrote: "I’m still wondering why so many of you actually answer the phone?"

Cause I'm not a complete Grinch, cause Blind Col sometimes rings to ask for pick-up times or that he's seen a gig I might be interested in, cause 3 of our 4 parents are still drawing breath and you never know when there might be an emergency, cause I was a union caseworker until recently and when people ring you they're often in bits so the sooner you deal with it the better for them, cause our son's just relocated to his first proper job and a rented flat just outside Sheffield on his tod so he calls fairly often (much more communication than when he was holed up in his pit upstairs), cause people need to know when they've misdialed so they can try again to get through to the person they want, etc, etc.


message 41: by Lez (new)

Lez | 7490 comments Brass Neck wrote: "Lez wrote: "I’m still wondering why so many of you actually answer the phone?"

Cause I'm not a complete Grinch, cause Blind Col sometimes rings to ask for pick-up times or that he's seen a gig I m..."


Sorry, sorry, sorry, thinking I know better again. I live on my own in my own little world and forget the bigger picture.

Duke, you don’t need an answer machine
1571 is still available to everybody as an answering system, though BT charge for it now.

https://www.moneysavingexpert.com/new...


message 42: by Lez (new)

Lez | 7490 comments Gordon, this has been niggling me since you started the thread. Did you really misspell ‘nauseam’ or am I missing a devious pun? (Yes I do get the ‘Ad’ bit)


message 43: by Gordon (new)

Gordon (skiiltan) | 2940 comments No, just my hopeless typing and failure to look again at the title. I'm inclined to leave it now, as I'm still disappointed at the loss of the "commen theme" elsewhere in the forum.


message 44: by Lez (last edited Sep 05, 2018 04:11PM) (new)

Lez | 7490 comments Gordon wrote: "No, just my hopeless typing and failure to look again at the title. I'm inclined to leave it now, as I'm still disappointed at the loss of the "commen theme" elsewhere in the forum."

Ha! Yes, nc and I miss ‘commen’ too.


message 45: by theDuke (new)

theDuke | 5787 comments Lez wrote: "Brass Neck wrote: "Lez wrote: "I’m still wondering why so many of you actually answer the phone?"

Cause I'm not a complete Grinch, cause Blind Col sometimes rings to ask for pick-up times or that ..."


Yes, i'm aware of that service, Lez, but I've never used it....especially now there's a fee to use it!

TBH, I hardly ever use a phone these days, on account of my hearing...so I tend to just ignore the ringing! Mum picks up, if she wants to. I just use it occasionally to make calls, if I need to. But, it's still pain in the wotsits, with these cold calling buggers, ringing several times a day.


message 46: by Tech XXIII (new)

Tech XXIII  | 6727 comments cold caller - 'we've been informed that you've been in an accident that wasn't your fault'

me - 'yes, it was a dreadful accident, i died in it'

4 out of 5 times they'll hang up, and the confused silence before they do so is very satisfying!


message 47: by Martin (new)

Martin O' | 2196 comments Then there's the "There is no need to take that attitude" of feigned indignancy they resort to. If Im in the mood I will try and prolong the conversation until finally they hang up in exasperation, as their calls are monitered I shouldn't imagine this goes down to well with their bosses who are only interested in positive results and failure is not an option. I suppose it all comes down to probabilities Tech, they are bound to hit a few eventually, I used to get similar texts on my mobile, I wish I'd thought of that response, it's a cracker! I also get the wrong name approach as in "Am I speaking to Mr. Johnson ?" after responding that you aren't they then steam in with their spiel anyway. Really exasperating!


message 48: by suzysunshine7 (new)

suzysunshine7 | 14594 comments Hee, Hee, Hee!!! - this is rapidly becoming another 'Life Niggles' Thread and yet we still only have one cheery little Chat Thread on the 'Snails'.

Are we all always far more interested in wanting to have a good old moan? ;o>


message 49: by Isabella (new)

Isabella | 1067 comments Life's silly coincidences... A while ago, we were out on a really cold night and my DH slipped on ice, coming down the steps from the venue. Fortunately it was mostly his dignity that was hurt and we walked on.
Less than 5 minutes later, his mobile chirped with a text, "We're sorry to hear of your accident. Just text OK and we'll be in touch about your compensation claim."
I know we've got more CCTV than anywhere but really?!?! ;o)


message 50: by suzysunshine7 (new)

suzysunshine7 | 14594 comments My Mum also got one of those too, Isabella ;o>

She was with me in A&E at the time - while we were waiting to have my Dislocated Shoulder put back in place after a fall. The poor Nurses were quite bewildered at first as to why we just couldn't stop laughing!!! - I think they thought we had both gone into some kind of traumatic Shock?! ... HA HA HA HA HA!!! ;o>


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