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Archived Group Reads - 2018 > September Book of the Month - A Dangerous Legacy (Empire State #1) by Elizabeth Camden

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message 1: by Loraine, CFD Momma (new)

Loraine (librarydiva) | 3215 comments Mod
A Dangerous Legacy (Empire State, #1) by Elizabeth Camden

Telegraph operator Lucy Drake is a master of Morse code and has made herself a valuable asset to the Associated Press news agency. But the sudden arrival of Sir Colin Beckwith at rival British news agency Reuters puts her hard-earned livelihood at risk. Colin is talented, handsome, insufferably charming--and keeping a secret that jeopardizes his reputation.

Despite their rivalry, Lucy can't deny that Colin has the connections she needs to give her family an edge in the long legal battle they've been waging over their rightful inheritance. But when she negotiates an unlikely alliance with him, the web of treachery they dive into proves to be far more dangerous than they ever could have known.

Who's going to be joining me for our Elizabeth Camden read?


message 2: by Staci, Book Awards Specialist (new)

Staci | 1907 comments Mod
I'm in! I enjoy Elizabeth Camden's novels. My favorite so far:
Against the Tide by Elizabeth Camden


message 3: by Charlene (new)

Charlene | 352 comments I’m in! This is my first by Elizabeth Camden and I’m looking forward to it :).


message 4: by Loraine, CFD Momma (new)

Loraine (librarydiva) | 3215 comments Mod
Staci wrote: "I'm in! I enjoy Elizabeth Camden's novels. My favorite so far:
Against the Tide by Elizabeth Camden"


That's my favorite too!


message 5: by Beth, Head Librarian (new)

Beth (bbulow) | 2335 comments Mod
I'm planning to join in as long as time allows! :)


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Kate (liahonagirl) | 563 comments I'm in!


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Rebekah Brown | 43 comments brought my book on tape copy home from the library yesterday :)


message 8: by Loraine, CFD Momma (new)

Loraine (librarydiva) | 3215 comments Mod
Way to go Rebekah! I am still waiting for mine to come in on ILL.


message 9: by Marion (new)

Marion | 124 comments Here!


message 10: by Loraine, CFD Momma (new)

Loraine (librarydiva) | 3215 comments Mod
Glad you are joining us Marion.


message 11: by LexReader (new)

LexReader | 3 comments I am a newbie to the group. Picked up my copy at the library yesterday. Can't wait to get started.


message 12: by Hannah (new)

Hannah (bookwormhannah) | 868 comments Welcome!


message 13: by Loraine, CFD Momma (new)

Loraine (librarydiva) | 3215 comments Mod
Glad you are joining us on this read LexReader! We will start discussion around Sept 15.


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Karin | 238 comments Darn, I wasn't able to get to a computer enough this weekend and missed that last revote, but one vote still wouldn't have put Vendetta up to 5.


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Georgann | 109 comments I just saw this today, Sept 6, and put the book on hold at the library. Hopefully, it will come in time for me to join in. Loraine, are you the same Loraine who is one of the leaders for the Bible journaling group on Facebook?


message 16: by Loraine, CFD Momma (new)

Loraine (librarydiva) | 3215 comments Mod
No Georgann I am not.


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Emily Ste | 4 comments I enjoyed it and look forward to discussing!


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Donna Tulip | 11 comments I'm in! I got it from the library.


message 19: by Loraine, CFD Momma (new)

Loraine (librarydiva) | 3215 comments Mod
Looks like we'll have a good group for this read. I'm still waiting for my copy to come in on ILL. Should be here on Tuesday.


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Rachel This is waiting for me at the library. It's going to be several days at least before I get to it because I have a few more library books in my bag that I've had for a while.


message 21: by Loraine, CFD Momma (new)

Loraine (librarydiva) | 3215 comments Mod
That's okay Rachel as I still don't have my copy either. Hoping for tomorrow.


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Chris | 308 comments Can't wait for discussion. Enjoyed this book by Camden!!


message 23: by Georgann (new)

Georgann | 109 comments My copy is in, hope to pick it up today


message 24: by Loraine, CFD Momma (new)

Loraine (librarydiva) | 3215 comments Mod
I got my copy on Tuesday and have already finished it! Discussion questions will go up on Saturday.


message 25: by Staci, Book Awards Specialist (new)

Staci | 1907 comments Mod
Sounds good! I hope to start it this weekend. Don’t worry about spoilers. I’ll avoid the thread until I finish.


message 26: by Charlene (new)

Charlene | 352 comments Thank you Loraine! I finished on Wednesday and I’m looking forward to discussion :).


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Elizabeth Camden (elizabethcamden) | 8 comments Hi there.....I heard you folks were discussing my novel and thought I'd pop over and say Hi! I hope I don't stifle free discussion. I know some folks don't want authors lurking, and if that's the case here I won't be at all offended to clear out. I also don't mind constructive criticism. My writing isn't everyone's cup of tea, and I've got a thick skin!

Here's a tidbit: I got the idea for A Dangerous Legacy by imagining "What would a novel that was a cross between Charles Dickens and Danielle Steele look like?" I figured such a book would have villains you love to hate, downtrodden heroes, and a great romance. I'm not sure I hit all three, but I had a ball trying!


message 28: by Staci, Book Awards Specialist (new)

Staci | 1907 comments Mod
So glad you are joining us!! Welcome!


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Hannah (bookwormhannah) | 868 comments Welcome, Elizabeth! I love it when authors stop by. I read this one the week it came out last year and quite enjoyed these characters. I'm planning to fit in reading your newest this month.

Do you have a favorite thing to include in your stiories each time you write? A character habit or color choice or a location that's near and dear to your heart?


message 30: by Loraine, CFD Momma (new)

Loraine (librarydiva) | 3215 comments Mod
Welcome Elizabeth. So glad you are joining us. We always love to have authors pop in, so we can get to know them better. I just finished A Dangerous Legacy and thoroughly enjoyed it.

What first drew you to writing historical fiction?


message 31: by Marion (new)

Marion | 124 comments I'll be staying out of this thread until I finish the book later this week but just had to say I'm loving it so far!


message 32: by Loraine, CFD Momma (new)

Loraine (librarydiva) | 3215 comments Mod
Here are the discussion questions for our book of the month, A Dangerous Legacy. Please feel free to answer any, all, or post a question of your own.

1. Lucy’s wiretap into the lawyer’s office is illegal, but she justifies her actions by claiming a distinction between the letter of the law and what was morally right. Was her choice honorable? Since she clearly stood to benefit by winning the lawsuit, can she genuinely claim to be acting in a selfless manner?

2. The friendships formed among the telegraph operators as they chatted with one another during slow times is similar to online friendships over the internet. Have you ever formed an online friendship with someone you’ve never met?

3. Mrs. Schroeder knows that her husband is engaged in illegal activities at Ridgemoor. What is the moral obligation of a good woman married to corrupt man?

4. When Lucy believes Colin has left to get married, she redoubles her efforts to broaden her horizons. Has heartbreak or other disappointment ever inspired you to become a better person?

5. Eustace Drake believed that his inventions were his contribution to making the world a better place. He said, “When I do this, I feel God smiling on me.” Are there any special gifts or task you perform that make it feel like God is smiling on you?

6. Tom Jr. is intelligent and a talented marksman but suffers from an inflated view of himself fueled by his parents’ gushing praise. Do you know any well-intentioned parents who have inadvertently puffed up their children? Tom’s lack of a moral compass aside, what other consequences can excessive parental praise have on a child?

7. The deal Jacob and Eustace struck was loosely modeled on Jacob and Esau (Genesis 25: 29-34). In both cases, the deal was binding, albeit foolishly entered into. Was either Jacob morally justified in asserting the deal?

8. Lucy dislikes President Roosevelt but is incensed when she learns of the plot against him and is willing to risk everything on his behalf. In our own era when distrust of political figures runs high, how do you feel about her lockstep loyalty to the office rather than the man?

9. Even though Colin and Lucy eagerly embrace technological advances, they both find charm and value in the lost art of homing pigeons. We live in a similar age of technology-driven change. Are there any obsolete traditions or technologies for which you feel a genuine sense of loss?

10. Frank Wooten favors Colin over the Polish count as a husband for his daughter because Colin has a solid history of accomplishment. When a parent has qualms about their child’s pick of a spouse, what is the appropriate level of intervention, if any?


message 33: by Loraine, CFD Momma (last edited Sep 15, 2018 06:04PM) (new)

Loraine (librarydiva) | 3215 comments Mod
I'm going to answer #2 right now. I have so many good friends from here at Christian Fiction Devourers that I have never met face-to-face. But you pray for me, encourage me, and share the love of books with me. Some of those friends are even authors which makes reading their books even more enjoyable. Thanks to each and every one of you!


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Kate (liahonagirl) | 563 comments I've read through the questions and will likely be back to answer a few more, but #5 stood out to me: Eustace Drake believed that his inventions were his contribution to making the world a better place. He said, “When I do this, I feel God smiling on me.” Are there any special gifts or task you perform that make it feel like God is smiling on you?
From my girlhood, I have always loved singing, especially performing in choirs. By all accounts, I probably shouldn't be able to sing well (I am Hard of Hearing and started wearing a hearing aid at age 5), but God has blessed me with a particular talent in that area. Through some very special circumstances, I have come to know that He delights when I sing . . . especially when I sing songs and hymns (either by myself or with a choir) that glorify Him. Having just returned from singing with our multi-congregation choir for a regional church meeting today, reading this question reminded me that God is delighted with me today because I sang for Him!


message 35: by Loraine, CFD Momma (new)

Loraine (librarydiva) | 3215 comments Mod
What a special story Kate! I am sure God smiles every time you sing. It is a blessing when people can bless us with their musical talents. We were blessed in Chapel this morning with the New Life Southern Gospel Quartet. They had everyone clapping and singing along with them. I knew God was celebrating our wonderful musical fellowship.


message 36: by Loraine, CFD Momma (new)

Loraine (librarydiva) | 3215 comments Mod
#1 Lucy's wiretap really bothered me because I never felt that she truly repented of her wrongdoing with it. She was so wrapped up in the lawsuit that she just kept justifying what she was doing until she finally unhooked it after the case was settled.


message 37: by Charlene (last edited Sep 16, 2018 01:11PM) (new)

Charlene | 352 comments Here’s my thoughts on the first 6 questions. I will answer the other 4 later in the week :)

1. Lucy’s wiretap into the lawyer’s office is illegal, but she justifies her actions by claiming a distinction between the letter of the law and what was morally right. Was her choice honorable? Since she clearly stood to benefit by winning the lawsuit, can she genuinely claim to be acting in a selfless manner?

Interesting question. I don’t think it’s that clear cut. Lucy’s choice was not honourable and I wouldn’t say it was a completely selfless act either. However I can understand why she did it. This whole situation affected her whole life. She had no control so I can understand her looking for a way to take back that power. I think we have all found ourselves in this place where we justify our actions to take back control when life feels like a tornado. Maybe this would have been a good place for Lucy to pray and ask the Holy Spirit for wisdom rather than leaning on her own devices. LOL

2. The friendships formed among the telegraph operators as they chatted with one another during slow times is similar to online friendships over the internet. Have you ever formed an online friendship with someone you’ve never met?

I agree with Loraine this group is a very good example of forming friendships with people we have never met.

I have made a few friends online over the years and some have turned out to be really good friends. I like that these friendships are built on common ground rather than circumstances :).

3. Mrs. Schroeder knows that her husband is engaged in illegal activities at Ridgemoor. What is the moral obligation of a good woman married to corrupt man?

I’m not married so choose not to answer this question. I have learnt hypothetical and reality are two very different things. LOL

However 1 Peter 3:1-6 could be a guide for such situations and Abigail in the book of 1 Samuel.

4. When Lucy believes Colin has left to get married, she redoubles her efforts to broaden her horizons. Has heartbreak or other disappointment ever inspired you to become a better person?

Absolutely how else do you move on LOL. Focusing on positive things is a great way to get over the negative things of life.

5. Eustace Drake believed that his inventions were his contribution to making the world a better place. He said, “When I do this, I feel God smiling on me.” Are there any special gifts or task you perform that make it feel like God is smiling on you?

I feel God is smiling on me when I walk in relationship with him. I believe God just wants us to come to him, lean on him and walk with him. Is this not why Jesus died for us on the cross so that we can walk in relationship with the father? And when we do, he smiles on us :)

6. Tom Jr. is intelligent and a talented marksman but suffers from an inflated view of himself fueled by his parents’ gushing praise. Do you know any well-intentioned parents who have inadvertently puffed up their children? Tom’s lack of a moral compass aside, what other consequences can excessive parental praise have on a child?

Unfortunately I observe this far to often. Other consequences can be a bad attitude and intolerable character traits like pride, arrogance, deceptive, mean, spiteful, malicious and the list goes on.

Basically they grow into an adult you don’t really want to be around.


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Charlene | 352 comments Loraine wrote: "#1 Lucy's wiretap really bothered me because I never felt that she truly repented of her wrongdoing with it. She was so wrapped up in the lawsuit that she just kept justifying what she was doing un..."

I completely agree Loraine!


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Charlene | 352 comments Kate wrote: "I've read through the questions and will likely be back to answer a few more, but #5 stood out to me: Eustace Drake believed that his inventions were his contribution to making the world a better p..."

This is beautiful Kate! Is our God so good! Thanks for sharing with us :)


message 40: by Staci, Book Awards Specialist (new)

Staci | 1907 comments Mod
1. Lucy’s wiretap into the lawyer’s office is illegal, but she justifies her actions by claiming a distinction between the letter of the law and what was morally right. Was her choice honorable? Since she clearly stood to benefit by winning the lawsuit, can she genuinely claim to be acting in a selfless manner?

The illegal wiretap struck me as out of character for Lucy.

2. The friendships formed among the telegraph operators as they chatted with one another during slow times is similar to online friendships over the internet. Have you ever formed an online friendship with someone you’ve never met?

Hello! CFD is a perfect example of that!! I've absolutely formed friendships with readers through Goodreads and Facebook. I've even had the pleasure of meeting a few CFD members in person - how awesome is that!! It is tough to find people that "get" our passion for reading CF. We absolutely form relationships here at CFD.

5. Eustace Drake believed that his inventions were his contribution to making the world a better place. He said, “When I do this, I feel God smiling on me.” Are there any special gifts or task you perform that make it feel like God is smiling on you?

I'd like to think I have a special gift and just haven't discovered it yet. Kate, I absolutely LOVE to hear those that have a vocal talent - so moving!!

6. Tom Jr. is intelligent and a talented marksman but suffers from an inflated view of himself fueled by his parents’ gushing praise. Do you know any well-intentioned parents who have inadvertently puffed up their children? Tom’s lack of a moral compass aside, what other consequences can excessive parental praise have on a child?

Today a lot of parents want to be friends with their children. That probably works great once children are adults, but during the formative years we need to be parents. Sometimes that means tough love which isn't easy.

9. Even though Colin and Lucy eagerly embrace technological advances, they both find charm and value in the lost art of homing pigeons. We live in a similar age of technology-driven change. Are there any obsolete traditions or technologies for which you feel a genuine sense of loss?

I so loved the homing pigeons in this novel!! Great addition! I think it is sad that letter writing has becoming nearly extinct. There is something special about a handwritten note or letter.

10. Frank Wooten favors Colin over the Polish count as a husband for his daughter because Colin has a solid history of accomplishment. When a parent has qualms about their child’s pick of a spouse, what is the appropriate level of intervention, if any?

Tough one! I currently think there couldn't be a spouse for either of my children that I would find worthy. Maybe that point of view will alter as they age. My children are in high school. I do think a parent risks alienating a child if they voice opposition at the wrong time or in the wrong way - definitely a fine line.


message 41: by Staci, Book Awards Specialist (new)

Staci | 1907 comments Mod
Loved the Morse Code in the novel!!

Did anyone find it out of character for Lucy that she would leave work after lunch to spend the day with Colin? Since she loved her job so much, it surprised me that she would be AWOL.


message 42: by Loraine, CFD Momma (new)

Loraine (librarydiva) | 3215 comments Mod
I loved Morse Code as well. Thought it was neat that they used code to send messages back and forth between them.

I too was surprised she would go AWOL, And also nothing was ever said by anybody about her doing it.


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Elizabeth Camden (elizabethcamden) | 8 comments Hi Loraine..... about going AWOL and no one ever saying anything about it....my editor did! I actually had Lucy stepping out A LOT in my first draft of the book, and was required to re-write most of those scenes. A few times I couoldn't... When the timeline or plot required her to leave, I decided to have her "clock out," with the implication she would deliver a full 8 hours, just maybe later. But yup! Lucy certainly wasn't chained to the desk and probably would have gotten written up for how often she flew the coop!


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Elizabeth Camden (elizabethcamden) | 8 comments Hannah asked: "Do you have a favorite thing to include in your stiories each time you write? A character habit or color choice or a location that's near and dear to your heart?"

I don't so much have recurring incidents so much as a few starting rituals. The first thing I always do when starting a new book is buy a big historical map of the city the book is set in, then tack it on my study wall. I also scrounge around for a historical tourist book for the same city and decade.....that lets me learn what museums, ticket prices, hotels, restaurants were there. These little shopping trips (mostly on Amazon) are a lot of fun, and always get me excited about the city and plot possibilities.


message 45: by Loraine, CFD Momma (new)

Loraine (librarydiva) | 3215 comments Mod
Elizabeth I love the map and the tourist book from the era! Sounds like what we used to do when we were able to travel a lot. Your historical research and detail in your books are what makes them so special!


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Elizabeth Camden (elizabethcamden) | 8 comments Thanks Loraine! To answer your earlier question about why I write historicals.... when I first tried writing fiction, I wrote mostly contemporaries, and it didn't click. I couldn't sink into it. Then I decided to shift and write and Edwardian romance (The Lady of Bolton Hill) and I immediately know I had found something I enjoyed. It became my first published novel, and I've stuck with historicals ever since.

Okay, time for another tidbit! I based the character of Frank Wooten on Frank Work, a massively rich American who lived in fear of his daughter marrying a useless aristocrat. In my novel, Colin is courting Amelia and she is tempted by his title, but ultimately settles on the Polish count. A LOT of rich American heiresses were dazzled by a titled, but Frank Work despised them. He was well-named, because he thought work was what made a man. Ironically, his own daughter insisted on marrying a penniless British aristocrat who lost all her money and died in debt. She appealed to her father for money, but he would only agree to bail her out if she returned to American WITH her children, and insisted the boys never return to England and renounce their claim to their title (a baronetcy.)

She did, Frank Work eventually died, and her oldest son grew up, returned to England, and became pretty much exactly what Frank Work feared....a nonworking aristocrat.

Now here's where it becomes interesting. That son was princess Diana's grandfather. MEANING...... Frank Work's great-great grandson (William) will someday become King of England. I wonder what he would think of that!

Here's the wikipedia entry on the daughter: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frances...


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Hannah (bookwormhannah) | 868 comments Oh, that is an excellent tidbit! Thanks for sharing.


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Hannah (bookwormhannah) | 868 comments Will the series be only a trilogy or are you planning more books after A Desperate Hope?


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Elizabeth Camden (elizabethcamden) | 8 comments A Desperate Hope will be the last of the trilogy. Then I'm moving on to Washington DC.....my favorite city for historical novels!


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Hannah (bookwormhannah) | 868 comments DC is a fun destination! What era? Have you already begun working on that story?


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