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2018 Booker Shortlist: Washington Black
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I have pre-ordered copies of both this one and Normal People from Waterstones. Last year, when I did this for Home Fire, I was able to collect the book a few days before the official publication date, so I'll let you know when they tell me more.


I might borrow it from the library when it comes in and wait for the US publication for purchase - deckled edges!!!!

But I am also starting to feel that since the Booker opened to US novelists, the token Indian book may have been replaced by the token slavery book.

This one isn’t a slave book for long, really. Although it sort of is because it has a slave in it.
MisterHobgoblin wrote: "Also reading this at the moment. Is there a set order we are all doing the books in? About 10% of the way in and thinking it could be a kind of Jango Unchained. Enjoying it very much.
But I am als..."
My intention was to start with the ones the least people have read, but I don't have a fixed plan. Currently reading The Long Take, and I am planning to read Daisy Johnson next, then Powers or Gunaratne, after that I haven't really decided yet, possibly this one unless my copy gets delayed.
But I am als..."
My intention was to start with the ones the least people have read, but I don't have a fixed plan. Currently reading The Long Take, and I am planning to read Daisy Johnson next, then Powers or Gunaratne, after that I haven't really decided yet, possibly this one unless my copy gets delayed.

The Booker judges seem to be eager to add quite some material that is highly accessible and easily readable this year, but while the inclusion of Snap seemed outrageous to me, this is a defendable choice. Edugyan writes about slavery, racism, and identity, but in the form of an adventure novel, told chronologically and in the first person. While this makes for a rather conservative narrative strategy, the author clearly knows how to compose an engaging and compelling story - and there is depth, too.
Sure, the novel partly comes close to a fairy tale and the narrative skeleton that carries the protagonist's travels (from Barbados to the US, the Arctic, Canada, London, Amsterdam and Marocco) always shines through - much of what happens is highly unlikely, or as the text itself puts it: "You are like an interruption in a novel, Wash. The agent that sets things off course." But realism is not the point here, Edugyan talks about history and human nature in the form of an allegory, and there are many smart ideas and strong images. This is an enjoyable, intelligent read that leaves room for interpretation and discussion.
Here's my review.

This is one I'm excited about. I liked Edugyan's Half-Blood Blues, a bright spot on the otherwise much-maligned 2011 Booker Prize list (flash-backs of which highlight the fact that the inclusion of something like Snap on this list is not unprecedented). I'm glad to hear Meike's good opinion above! I think my copy is slated to arrive next Tuesday . . . more thoughts after that!


I just have to wait til next month - Serpent's Tail have a strict 'no shipping books to overseas bloggers' policy and Netgalley isn't available in Malta - last time I checked, a month ago.



This is making me hesitate. There is a scene in Kindred that haunts me still.

This is making me hesitate. There is a scen..."
WndyJW, it's just the beginning of the book though, and the violence is also not gratuitous, it's there to illustrate the situation - so it would be sad if this kept you from picking up the book!

Just checked my email for the first time today and my copy is available to collect too, so I'll pick it up tomorrow or Monday
I picked up my copy last night, but I have yet to decide what order to read the six I have available in.

I always find that fun - over the past two days I have received six as well - Snap will probably be the last one.

And from the 1890 life of Gosse written by his son, when Gosse was in Jamaica:
"He found himself unable to take the whole trouble of collecting without much loss of time, and therefore, on January i, 1845, he engaged a negro lad of eighteen, Samuel Campbell by baptism and Sam by name, to give him his entire services for a salary of four dollars a month. This arrangement continued until the naturalist returned to England, and proved eminently successful. He says : —
"Sam soon approved himself a most useful assistant by his faithfulness, his tact in learning, and then his skill in practising the art of preparing natural subjects, his patience in pursuing animals, his powers of observation of facts, and the truthfulness with which he reported them, as well as by the accuracy of his memory with respect to species. Often and often, when a thing has appeared to me new, I have appealed to Sam, who on a moment's examination would reply, ' No, we took this in such a' place, or on such a day,'and I invariably found on my return home that his memory was correct. I never knew him in the slightest degree attempt to embellish a fact, or report more than he had actually seen."
That last sentence finding an echo is the crucial exchange between Washington and his other white mentor which features at the beginning and also end of the book:
“You told me once, when I was drawing, ‘Be faithful to what you see, and not what you are supposed to see.’”

Then Washington’s fortunes change when Erasmus’s brother Christopher comes to stay. He is an idealist and inventor; he needs an assistant to help him build a giant balloon in which he hoped to cross the Atlantic. He is invited to live with Christopher, to call him Titch, to eat fine food and speak his mind. Wash struggles to accept these freedoms, perhaps mindful that they only exist as long as Titch is prepared to let them exist.
Then a paradigm shift and we are with Titch and Wash aboard a trading ship plying its way to Virginia. The captain and medic seem somewhat nonplussed to have given refuge to an obvious runaway slave. We have a historic maritime novella, reminiscent of Joseph O’Connor’s Star of the Sea or Ian Maguire’s The North Water. It is well done and there is a sense of menace and tension.
Then we have a stay in Arctic Canada looking at marine life.
Then on to Nova Scotia where Wash finds romance but lives in fear of recapture.
Then to London, trying to engage with Titch’s aristocratic family.
Then to Amsterdam.
Then to Morocco.
This is a plot driven novel with vivid detail. Esi Edugyan evokes four different worlds in vivid colours. But, the story never quite convinces. The characters don’t have a great deal of depth despite having plenty of action. Even Wash, the narrator, really just feels like an everyman. The main characters all do things for no obvious reason. Why does Cousin Philip shoot himself? Why does he visit Erasmus at all when he has such an unhappy history with the man? Why does Mr Wilde pretend to be dead? Why did Titch walk away from Wash? Why did John Willard keep trying to track Wash when there was no longer a bounty to be had? Why would Erasmus place such a large bounty on a slave in the first place when he thought them no more and no less than livestock?
The shifting across different worlds also produced what felt like several different stories with several different atmospheres – almost like David Mitchell’s Cloud Atlas, with only the slenderest of threads to hold them together. And given the issues of character motivation, each subsequent section became slightly diminished. The final section, England (although much of it was in Morocco) felt confusing and didn’t really provide the resolutions it set out to achieve.
This doesn’t make Washington Black a bad book. Much of it is compelling, visceral. It is never less than readable and the progression from Barbados to the sea to Canada to England to Morocco is innovative for a 19th Century historical novel. There is something steampunk about the ballooning; the slave section is as good a slave narrative as any; the journey at sea is rollicking. There is an air of menace and tension through much of the novel - although this starts to dissipate in Nova Scotia and is gone by London. There is a sense of how a black person might have fitted in to various different communities. There are questions about the nature of freedom, particularly when bound by societal expectations, station of birth, and the threat that freedom might be taken away.
But there is an abiding sense that this has fizzled after a really stunning first half.
How does that all stack up? Being generous, perhaps four stars.



Because we have lower expectations of female writers?


But one can easily imagine that next year's judges will take a different path.
My impression is that the Women's Prize manages much more consistency in approach over years and I suspect the WPF board and Kate Mosse, it's chair and co founder of the prize, play an important part here.

I agree - In fact I'll go as far to say that The Women's Prize winners are usually better than the Booker ones.

Do you use Edelweiss? I got a download pre-release from them.




Just finished this one, and found it a very enjoyable read, but perhaps not quite shortlist material.
My review
My review

I am impressed with Black’s speed of reading. One moment he is looking at the pictures in watercolour books as he falters at the difficulty of the words when he tries to read. Next chapter he takes in at a glance “Preliminary Remarks Regarding the Theory and Practice of Hydrogen-Powered Aerostation in the West Indies.”
He also has an impressive word for word recall of all his conversations with Titch even from say their first morning, despite understanding nothing he remembers “I had done much research about wind currents in the northwestern hemisphere, and it occurred to me that here might be the perfect place to launch the aerostat I’d half-heartedly designed”.

It struck me as more of an old fashioned adventure story than anything else, with a few nice modern twists. As such you wouldn't expect the facts to stand much scrutiny. I agree that a longlisting is the best that this deserves, but unless both Powers and Kushner disappoint me I won't find it difficult to fill a personal shortlist.

“Some evenings I would take out my papers and leads and attempt to sketch the twins from memory, trying very hard to recall their differences so as to make them distinct. But at this I always failed. In life they were discrete as cane fields, each with his own character and history and way of talking. Yet when I sat down to draw them, they became one pale face, one beady, judging set of eyes.”

Hi I you are being a bit harsh further up thread though. Here are thousands of books out there where the narrator seems to remember conversations in great detail from decades before. Milkman, for example?


Did anyone else see Who Do You Think You Are on UK TV last night. It was relevant to this book because Melvin Humes travelled to the Caribbean to see the sugar plantation on which his ancestors were slaves and where they became free people. It was interesting to see what the places looked like.
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