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message 1: by Liz (new)

Liz (lizgore) | 7 comments Freepers, Birthers, Morons of all stripe, You didn't get mad...

You didn't get mad when the Supreme Court stopped a legal recount and appointed a President.

You didn't get mad when Cheney allowed Energy company officials to dictate energy policy.

You didn't get mad when a covert CIA operative got outed.

You didn't get mad when the Patriot Act got passed.

You didn't get mad when we illegally invaded a country that posed no threat to us.

You didn't get mad when we spent over 600 billion(and counting) on said illegal war.

You didn't get mad when over 10 billion dollars just disappeared in Iraq.

You didn't get mad when you saw the Abu Grahib photos.

You didn't get mad when you found out we were torturing people.

You didn't get mad when the government was illegally wiretapping Americans.

You didn't get mad when we didn't catch Bin Laden.

You didn't get mad when you saw the horrible conditions at Walter Reed.

You didn't get mad when we let a major US city drown.

You didn't get mad when the deficit hit the trillion dollar mark.

You finally got mad when.. when... wait for it... when the government decided that people in America deserved the right to see a doctor if they are sick. Yes, illegal wars, lies, corruption, torture, stealing your tax dollars to make the rich richer, are all ok with you but helping other Americans... well fuck that. That about right? You know it is.

You people have all lost your fucking minds. You are selfish, greedy, obnoxious, narcissistic, and frankly... stupid. Your pathetic little misspelled protest signs are embarrassing. Maybe you ought to find the smart person in your midst and let them make up all the signs, cause man, you look like a bunch of idiots. Also you're ugly and your mother dresses you funny.

Is it just me or does this make you mad>

message 2: by Douhet (new)

Douhet | 5 comments We were not happy with Bush's spending just like we're not happy with Obama's spending. I find it ironic that all of the war protesting has stopped. We're still at war in Afghanistan, in fact, we've sent more troops over there under orders from President Obama. We're still in Iraq and will still be there for some time.

We stood up and shouted "No" at Bush when he passed all the TARP money that Obama supported. And we've been shouting "No" with all of the additional spending that Obama's been doing since he's been in office. The real complaint about health care is the cost. We can't afford to pay for health care for everyone within the borders of our country. There's only so many of us that are paying taxes to support it and eventually that resource will be completely tapped.

I don't understand how our government thinks they can get this to work. It has never worked anywhere in the world at any time in the world. Yet the arrogance of our current leaders thinks they can get it to work. Isn't that what all the other governments have said? Why must we keep repeating the same mistakes that everyone else makes?

They say a smart man learns from his mistakes but a wise man learns from others mistakes. Let's stop doing the same things that other countries are doing that are on the brink of financial collapse? Where are all of the people that were complaining about Bush's spending? Is it ok for Obama to spend us into oblivion? Obama has tripled our deficit and spending but doesn't meet any opposition from those who complained about Bush’s spending. Both parties are full of hypocrites. That's why we're seeing more and more people becoming independents.

When are we going to stop blaming each other and start controlling things? The government is supposed to protect our borders, not take control of every aspect of our lives. We need to get back to a country that takes care of ourselves and get the government out of it. We are a Republic. We the people need to take care of we the people. It’s not the government’s job.

message 3: by Zacksmom (last edited Aug 17, 2009 12:49PM) (new)

Zacksmom Okon | 1 comments Kudos to the last post!

Maybe some of the original post is correct -- but we (as a people) are getting very angry now because we absolutely do not want euthanization or socialism in this country. Maybe people are finally waking up when they are reading the morning paper and realizing that their parents will be forced to choose how they would like to die. Maybe that is the "straw that broke the camel's back" so to speak for many of the citizens who blindly go through life one day at a time. The very same ones who wake up one day and realize that all the daily decisions they made along the way really did put them on the path of no return.

It's a shame more people didn't vote according to their faith last fall - or didn't realize one collective decision could "change" the rest of our lives as a free nation. Maybe some of the voters really didn't know this is exactly the "change" that they voted for -- weren't they listening????

My sister reminded me of a quote from General Patton "You deserve what you tolerate". Couldn't be more appropriate than on this day!

Protect your own,
pray for our leaders,
and forgive often!

message 4: by Ilyn (last edited Aug 19, 2009 02:24AM) (new)

Ilyn Ross (Ilyn_Ross) | 1280 comments Mod
1. It takes integrity

- to advocate values and virtues based on fundamentals, not on which political party is in power
- to hold convictions that are not contradictory
- to consistently apply them; if one holds that the principle of individual rights is good, then he must hold that the poor, middle-class, and the spectacularly rich have equal rights, that regulating the successful is rights-infringement.

The USA is founded on the philosophy that we are a nation of objective laws, not of men.

In dictatorships, political leaders rule by guns, are deposed by guns; thugs assume power and rule by violent means. In socialism, the productive have no right to the fruits of their labors.

In a mixed economy, like what we have in the US, citizens accept the contradiction that some rights-infringement is acceptable, especially when the victims are the top 1%. Then the top 5%. Then the 250Kers. Then... we have a totalitarian government.

Those who oppose a totalitarian government but sanction or advocate infringing the rights of the top 1%, obviously, have no respect for rights.

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Ilyn Ross (Ilyn_Ross) | 1280 comments Mod
2. When rational individuals with opposing viewpoints argue, they recognize the value of the argument: even if only one side wins, both profit because the other side learns.

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Ilyn Ross (Ilyn_Ross) | 1280 comments Mod
3. Hurling f-bombs, stupid, or moron shows the character of the hurler. It does not define the target of the bombs.

The honest make up their minds based on facts and logic. When President Obama, without knowing the facts, hurled “acted stupidly” at people who risk their lives preventing violence and apprehending criminals, he showed that he is what he hurled.

Aside from vilifying insurers, he maligns doctors. No surprise, after he bashed his country abroad.

message 7: by Ilyn (last edited Aug 18, 2009 02:53AM) (new)

Ilyn Ross (Ilyn_Ross) | 1280 comments Mod
4. Doctors, insurers, and patients have equal inalienable rights. President Obama, who has the power of the gun, vilifies doctors and insurers. This is tyranny. He is abusing what citizens delegated to the government: the right to self-defense. If he thinks doctors and insurers are committing fraud or other rights-infringements, he should let the judicial branch evaluate the facts and decide. If he thinks he can do a better job than doctors and insurers, he should resign as President and compete in the free market.

It is abhorrent to use the coercive power of government, purposed solely to protect rights, to enslave people who save lives, and to coerce the productive to shoulder the medical expenses of the non-productive or the irresponsible. Even the unfortunate have no right to enslave – they must rely on private welfare. Coerced welfare is evil.

message 8: by Ilyn (last edited Aug 18, 2009 03:18AM) (new)

Ilyn Ross (Ilyn_Ross) | 1280 comments Mod
5. After Scooter Libby was indicted, after reporter Judith Miller was jailed for refusing to reveal her source, and after Karl Rove was thoroughly investigated, Richard Armitage publicly admitted that he was the source who first revealed the identity of CIA officer Valerie Plame to syndicated columnist Robert Novak.

Mr. Armitage told CBS that the special counsel investigating the leak, Patrick Fitzgerald, "asked me not to discuss this, and I honored his request." That nothing happened to Mr. Armitage makes it clear that Special Counsel Fitzgerald was not after justice. It is an outrage that Mr. Fitzgerald knew about the leaker while going after other people.

message 9: by Ilyn (last edited Aug 18, 2009 03:04AM) (new)

Ilyn Ross (Ilyn_Ross) | 1280 comments Mod
6. The Florida Recount - excerpt from this:

An exhaustive review of last year's disputed presidential election in Florida indicates that George W. Bush still would have defeated Al Gore even if Mr. Gore had been granted the limited vote recounts he was seeking. Several U.S. news organizations consider the study the final word on the 2000 presidential election.

The study was carried out by a group of news organizations that pooled their resources into an extensive review of more than 175,000 disputed ballots from last November's presidential election in Florida.

The study found that even if Al Gore had won the right to limited recounts in Florida, he still would have lost to Mr. Bush by at least 200 votes. The official results gave Mr. Bush a 537 vote victory.
Dan Keating is with the Washington Post, one of several news organizations that participated in the survey. He told NBC television that a review of disputed ballots where it was hard to tell which candidate the voter preferred did not help the Gore camp as expected.

"And what we found in our study was that, much to everyone's surprise, actually the under-votes benefited George Bush more than Al Gore. So, if just the under-votes had been counted, George Bush still would have won the presidency," he said.

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Ilyn Ross (Ilyn_Ross) | 1280 comments Mod
6a) President Bush 43 also defeated Senator John Kerry. To rehash the Florida Recount issue is to grossly evade reality.

Next time, I’ll comment on the other issues raised.

message 11: by Ilyn (last edited Aug 19, 2009 07:37AM) (new)

Ilyn Ross (Ilyn_Ross) | 1280 comments Mod
7. Anyone with a sense of justice acknowledges that in any big organization like the armed forces, there will be misguided or bad members. A just person does not blame the entire organization for the actions of a few members. A good person does not endanger the innocent.

The unending criticism about Abu Ghraib, after the investigations and charges against the perpetrators, evinces a blind hatred of either President Bush 43 or the military.

message 12: by Ilyn (last edited Aug 19, 2009 03:27AM) (new)

Ilyn Ross (Ilyn_Ross) | 1280 comments Mod
Kudos and much respect to the waterboarders of the 9-11 mastermind and his top two minions. Many thanks for saving a great number of lives.

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Aunt (auntsally) | 16 comments go girl.....

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stan (stanthewiseman) | 27 comments Hi
If I can add a comment. You see, In the UK during Hurricane Katrina we saw, and was informed by the media that GWB was an insensitive President. The slowness of the whole system to get the proper aide to the area was to my mind quite ridiculous. Why was that? does the State work independently to the National emergency programmes.

And what has happened to the area of New Orleans at the presernt time and how much aide has been forthcoming

message 15: by Ilyn (last edited Aug 20, 2009 09:02AM) (new)

Ilyn Ross (Ilyn_Ross) | 1280 comments Mod
The Federal government cannot operate within a State unless asked. During Katrina, FEMA did not go into impacted areas until they were asked because it followed the law.

The dishonest evaded the dereliction of the local and state governments.

message 16: by Ilyn (new)

Ilyn Ross (Ilyn_Ross) | 1280 comments Mod
Thomas Jefferson: "The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others."

What is delegated to the government is the right to self-defense. Rights are rights to action, not to man-made values. It is not the government’s function to provide sustenance to a citizen, nor to protect him from himself or nature. The government’s sublime mandate is to ensure his freedom.

message 17: by Tracy (new)

Tracy Lea (tracylea) | 37 comments Liz wrote: "Freepers, Birthers, Morons of all stripe, You didn't get mad...

You didn't get mad when the Supreme Court stopped a legal recount and appointed a President.

You didn't get mad when Cheney al..."

Liz, I am gathering you are from the other side, pissing your pants that yours guys are looking stupid in the high seats now. ; ) So you thought you would take your pissy pants and throw them in the tea pot here on this site. ; )

Everyone is entitled to their opinions that is what makes being an American (I think I spelled that correctly) such a wonderful blessing.

God Bless you and your little mind too.

message 18: by Tracy (new)

Tracy Lea (tracylea) | 37 comments Douhet wrote: "We were not happy with Bush's spending just like we're not happy with Obama's spending. I find it ironic that all of the war protesting has stopped. We're still at war in Afghanistan, in fact, we..."

Kudos to you...I could not say it better.

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