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message 1: by Mrs. Asti (last edited Jul 02, 2018 04:44AM) (new)

Mrs. Asti | 6 comments Mod
A bildungsroman, or coming-of-age novel, recounts the psychological or moral development of its protagonist from youth to maturity, when this character recognizes his or her place in the world. Select a single pivotal moment in the psychological or moral development of the protagonist of Ian McEwan's ATONEMENT. Then write a well-organized response that analyzes how that single moment shapes the meaning of the work as a whole.

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Adriana Zubizarreta | 12 comments Adriana Zubizarreta
A pivotal moment in Briony's moral development was when she became a nurse. To be exact it was when all the hurt army men came in and she had to help many of them. That one moment helped Briony realize she needed to make amends between family because she saw how the army men were passing away, unexpectedly. No one knows what will happen from one moment to the next. She then matured and became apologetic and wanted to make things right. That is the only thing to do. This shapes the work as a whole because she managed to mature and lose the innocence she once had a lot of and came to the conclusion she was wrong and she was just butting in.


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Amanda | 8 comments Amanda Barbon
In the novel Atonement by Ian McEwan, Briony Tallis, the protagonist of the novel, experiences a pivotal moment when she realizes that who she said committed a crime all those years ago wasn’t him. Specifically, when Briony admits to herself the grand mistake she made. As a child, you lie and think that by covering up the lies, you can get away with it. However, once you’ve reached the sense of maturity and knowing specifically right from wrong, is when you admit to your mistakes and grow up. Briony always knew that she wasn’t one hundred percent sure that it was Robbie Turner who raped Lola, but she wanted to believe it because she was afraid of its consequences, simply immature. However, when she saw Lola and Paul’s marriage was when the image became clear as water. In that moment, a pivotal moment, she knew what she did was wrong and knew that she had to own up to it immediately.


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Andres Alfaro | 7 comments Andres Alfaro
Briony Tallis training to become a nurse and helping the wounded soldiers from World War ll is a crucial moment in her moral development. When she saw how many soldiers were dying and how Paul Marshall and Lola were going to get married, she matured and felt like she needed to atone for her wrongdoings. She felt guilty for ruining Robbie’s and Cecilia’s love and for Lola marring Paul Marshall, the real rapist. However, she was already too late to fix everything how it was so to atone for her lies she wrote a novel, which is the novel we are reading, where she reveals her lies and Paul Marshall’s crime. That moment when Briony was a nurse in training and realized that she needs to find a way to atone for her lies shapes the meaning of the book because it creates the theme of losing innocence, coming to age, and reparation for someone’s wrongdoings. That moment in the novel, Atonement by Ian McEwan, is also pivotal because in that scene Briony imagined she asking for forgiveness to Cecilia and Robbie and promising them writing a novel that explains what she did wrong which at the end turned out to be the book that we, the readers, are actually reading.


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Adriana Zubizarreta | 12 comments Andres wrote: "Andres Alfaro
Briony Tallis training to become a nurse and helping the wounded soldiers from World War ll is a crucial moment in her moral development. When she saw how many soldiers were dying and..."


Adriana Zubizarreta
I agree with Andres and how when Briony became a nurse, how that was her moment to shine. She then grew as a person and realized all her incorrect actions had horrible consequences and that is how she decides to make things right.


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Felix Ramirez | 12 comments Felix D. Ramirez
A pivotal moment in Briony's life is her realization of what she did. Briony wrongly accused Robbie of being a rapist which in the end ruined his life and her relationship with Cecilia. Once she grew up and realized her mistake she tried to change her ways and tried to make things right again. After Robbie gets let out of prison Briony makes it her goal to help clear his name since by this point her mistake was obvious and she wanted to become a better person. She found out that Robbie had joined the army and to help him and others she decided to become a nurse for injured soldiers. She ends up meeting Robbie and trying to clear up the rape case that she originally started against Robbie because she knew she was in the wrong.


IsabellaVandamas | 6 comments in the novel atonement, i believe Briony pivotal moment was when she realized she had sent Robbie to jail for a false rape crime, After becoming a nurse and talking to soldiers on the verge of dying birony realized she needed to make up for what she did to Robbie years ago but didn't know how. After seeing Paul marshall and Lola quincey getting married she realized that Lola had played her and that she now knew she could tell Robbie what happened and he would forgive her. Unfourtantly Robbie was not happy with her surprise visit and didn't forgive her. Sadly Robbie and Cecilia both died Robbie due to injury in Dunkirk and Cecilia a bomb destroying an underground station


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Felix Ramirez | 12 comments Adriana wrote: "Adriana Zubizarreta
A pivotal moment in Briony's moral development was when she became a nurse. To be exact it was when all the hurt army men came in and she had to help many of them. That one mome..."


Felix D. Ramirez
I agree with Amanda on the fact that a pivotal moment in the main characters life was her realization of her wrong doing. Once she grew up Briony matured and thought back to what she had done many years ago. Knowing that she did the wrong thing she tries her hardest to become a better person by trying to clear Robbie's name and helping out the troops by becoming a nurse.


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ChedMichael Barreto | 8 comments ChedMichael Barreto

During Briony's time as a nurse, she was able to come to a realization in which she was able to achieve maturity. As said by Cecilia, Briony took nursing as a "penance" (pg 199) to ask for forgiveness from Robbie and her sister. However, there came a better outcome for Briony with her experience of becoming a nurse. First of all, Sister Drummond's strict management of the wards and Briony helped her become disciplined and hard-working individual. An example of Sister Drummond's wrath was taken out on Susan Langland as it states," By the time Sister Drummond finished telling her that she was an abomination... half the girls present were weeping" (pg 255). Of course Briony did not want any part of that. Nevertheless, Briony's brutal experience of taking care of the wounded soldiers allowed her to achieve the most pivotal moment. After just taking on a wounded soldier for the first time, its says on page 280," Everything was different for her now she had achieved one small thing." This wake-up call for Briony allowed her to face reality that's truly going in life. So, that "reality" that was able to come upon her realization showed how she actually sent an innocent man to jail. Briony's guilt allowed her to make up for her wrong doing.


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Jonathan B. | 12 comments Jonathan Bejarano
In "Atonement," the single pivotal moment was when Briony lost her relationship with her sister she realized what she had done wrong. She cared for her sister and wanted to protect her, so when she realized that she actually ended up hurting her sister, she started to feel guilty. Her experience at the hospital as a nurse only reinforced her guilt, not allowing her to live with her guilt. She saw that she betrayed her sister unintentionally, she must've seen that she was blinded by her views and didn't care for other views or beliefs. This single moment contributed to the meaning of the book as a whole by giving off a theme of betrayal and deception.


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Jonathan B. | 12 comments Andres wrote: "Andres Alfaro
Briony Tallis training to become a nurse and helping the wounded soldiers from World War ll is a crucial moment in her moral development. When she saw how many soldiers were dying and..."


Jonathan Bejarano
I agree with Andres, Briony's experience from being a nurse really influenced her into helping her sister and Robbie. The nurse showed her what the soldiers were going through, what Robbie was going through.


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Anabel | 12 comments Anabel Guerrero
The moment Briony started training to be a nurse and blamed herself for Lola marrying the person who assaulted her, Briony began to understand that her immaturity had ruined the lives of her and Robbie. By working with men who were wounded from war, Briony realized that anything can happy and that it was time to make amends with her family because she could lose a member any moment. Briony matured and started to want forgiveness and understood that what she had done was extremely wrong. As a whole, this shapes the meaning of the novel because it shows how Briony matures and realizes she must ask for forgiveness. 


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Sadie G | 12 comments Sadie Garcia-Praslin

In Ian McEwan's novel,"Atonement", Briony Tallis is characterized as a young girl who spends her days fantasizing and writing stories. As the novel progresses, we see Briony's moral development from the perspective of a child to an elderly woman. A pivotal moment in which we witness Briony's moral development is found in chapter 17 "London, 1999", where Briony speaks as a successful writer in her seventies recalling a crucial moment that began her journey to atonement. That eloquently describes, is when she reveals that the part of her story in 1940 when she Cecilia and at their room was made up. In reality, Robbie died on that beach in Dunkirk due to his injuries and that Cecilia died in a bombing not long after that. After the wedding, Briony was too scared of confronting her enraged sister and lover which resulted in her never seeing Cecilia before she died. For Briony, her final act of "atonement" that she wanted to give to Robbie and Cecilia was a happy ending without forgiving her. Even though she could never receive genuine forgiveness for her crime, it was this key moment that shaped the entire novel because, in the end, Briony's atonement was never really achieved all that mattered to her was her attempt.


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Sadie G | 12 comments IsabellaVandamas wrote: "in the novel atonement, i believe Briony pivotal moment was when she realized she had sent Robbie to jail for a false rape crime, After becoming a nurse and talking to soldiers on the verge of dyin..."
Sadie Garcia's Response:
I agree with Isabella's view on Briony's pivotal moment because Briony accusing Robbie for Lola's rape ended up ruining both Robbie's life and her relationship with Cecilia.


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Anabel | 12 comments ChedMichael wrote: "ChedMichael Barreto

During Briony's time as a nurse, she was able to come to a realization in which she was able to achieve maturity. As said by Cecilia, Briony took nursing as a "penance" (pg 199..."


I like the use of bringing up the hard parts of training to be a nurse, and I can agree at the end it was useful and made her mature.


message 16: by Melina (last edited Aug 24, 2018 07:49PM) (new)

Melina Caballero | 12 comments Melina Caballero

In the novel, Atonement, it is safe to say that Briony's pivotal moment in her character development is when she became a nurse. When she trained and helped the wounded from the war, she experienced things like death and this helped push her into the direction of atonement. Briony realized that her actions affected those she loved, in a negative way. Unfortunately, she realized this when it was too late to atone for her lies. In return to her actions, Briony is forced to live her life with guilt looming over her. Briony even visits her sister to show that is truly feeling guilty over what she did, but then Cecilia states "I won't ever forgive you" (pg.318). Briony's journey from child to adult caused her shed the immaturity she held during her younger years which made her more mature in the end.


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Melina Caballero | 12 comments Sadie wrote: "Sadie Garcia-Praslin

In Ian McEwan's novel,"Atonement", Briony Tallis is characterized as a young girl who spends her days fantasizing and writing stories. As the novel progresses, we see Briony's..."


Melina Caballero
I agreed with you when you included that even though she was never forgiven, she still tried to make the effort to get it, even after Robbie and Cecilia were dead. This shows that she truly felt the guilt of her actions, since it followed her all the way until death.


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ChedMichael Barreto | 8 comments Jonathan wrote: "Jonathan Bejarano
In "Atonement," the single pivotal moment was when Briony lost her relationship with her sister she realized what she had done wrong. She cared for her sister and wanted to protec..."


ChedMichael Barreto

Exactly, Briony's false accusations caused her sister, Cecilia, to be frustrated with her since her whole family believed a "liar". Another outcome from Cecilia's frustrations was that she won't be able to forgive Briony at all. The best Briony could do was become a nurse, just like her sister. What a shame.


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Dacia (xodacia) | 8 comments Dacia Ochoa

The Novel ‘Atonement,’ is a beautiful bildungsroman-it illustrates that Briony is a dynamic character that undergoes a series of changes that ultimately lead to a matured Briony. At the beginning of the novel, readers are introduced an imaginative and interfering girl that wants to control her surroundings, so she writes plays and stories. The novel eventually shows the growth Briony’s character has. A prominent moment that led to Briony’s realization of her many mistakes is definitely when she became a nurse for injured World War II soldiers-when helping the wounded soldiers, Briony becomes selfless in a way where she experienced loss and death. She learned to think of others, instead of only thinking for herself- these experiences led her to ‘atone’ her sins and mistakes-one of them being, the calumniations about Robbie. Unfortunately, Briony decides to atone her lies when its too late, Robbie has passed away and her sister is unwilling to forgive her.


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