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message 1: by Lynn, Moderator (new) - rated it 4 stars

Lynn | 4047 comments Mod
Lover Reborn (Black Dagger Brotherhood, #10) by J.R. Ward Lover Rebornis the tenth book of the Black Dagger Brotherhood series, which the group is reading in the lead up to Goodreads Choice Award Winner Romance Category (Lover at Last)

Book Summary:
Ever since the death of his shellan, Tohrment has been a heartbroken shadow of the vampire leader he once was. Brought back to the Brotherhood by a self-serving fallen angel, he fights again with ruthless vengeance, unprepared for a new tragedy. Seeing his beloved in dreams—trapped in a cold, isolated netherworld—Tohr turns to the angel Lassiter to save his former mate. The only way to rescue her is for Tohr to love another. As war with the lessers rages, and a new clan of vampires vie for the Blind King’s throne, Tohr struggles between an unforgettable past and a hot, passion-filled future. But can his heart let go and set all of them free?


message 2: by Lynn, Moderator (new) - rated it 4 stars

Lynn | 4047 comments Mod
I hate posting a BDB topic in this group now because of all the haters! lol

Not one of my favourite books in the series but I was still devouring them and enjoying them. I think by this time I was so eager to get to book #11 because I wanted to know what happened with team Quay.


Adoore | 4 comments Question: What kind of response do you want here?

I read the book and it actually killed the series for me. I was a huge fan of Wellsie and Tohr and just can't continue a series that does not follow previous world building. I used to love this series and believe me I have tried to re-read them at the library but I can't even do that especially when I read something about Tohr and how much he loved Wellsie.

Hope this was okay, its just this book still angers me so much.


message 4: by Lynn, Moderator (new) - rated it 4 stars

Lynn | 4047 comments Mod
Adoor, you can respond in whatever way you want ..... it was just a flippant remark from me without thinking about if it would stop anyone from posting negative comments.

Every book is going to have it's lovers and haters and I wouldn't have it any other way.

So what was it about this book that you thought didn't follow the previous world building?
(I'm racking my brain but can't think of anything at the moment but it was a while ago that I read it)


Adoore | 4 comments Hey Lynn, its been a while since I also read the book. Let me see some of the previous world building that did not follow through. 1. We had been previously told that if any of the vampires (male/female) committed suicide they went into the Duhn ( spelling is always different), yet no'one commits suicide and does not go their but to the in-between (but she doesn't know). 2. We are told that Bonded males can't live without their bonded mates and that the brothers bond even stronger than other males, yet Tohr says he is in love and will mate no'one not even three years after his bonded mate has been deceased after being with her for over 200 years. 3. We have several mates that are returned from death or cured: Mary, Jane, no'one, yet Wellsie is not allowed to return.

Their are so many more that I would probably fill this whole page. I loved this series I though the previous two books were kind of lacking but I still loved reading about these brothers until this book. Now I am completely done with the series. I have never had the emotions for a book that I have for this one.

I really loved Wellsie and Tohr and I though they were a great couple and I expected their story to be a challenge their marriage was going to face but for her and her baby to be killed and not returned while the future mate of her bonded mate was also dead and was return to life, it just really angered me. Everything that Tohr had previously said seem like lies and it made me feel like any of the other couples could end up the same way.

Sorry for such a rant but arghhhh!!! this book.


message 6: by Janina (last edited Aug 06, 2014 10:47AM) (new) - rated it 1 star

Janina (sylarana) | 692 comments Finished this one as well.

There are plenty of small things that keep on happening which contradict stuff she wrote in previous books. But, it's also a lot like a soap .. characters die only to be miraculously resurrected (just looking differently cause the actor quit etc). It's all a means to an end which in this case is honestly just soft porn.

I can't even get myself to care much anymore. Another pathetically weak character (autumn) that needs to be rescued. Another decent male character (Thor) destroyed. And the rest is just the same.

Not even going to talk about much the Layla-Quinn bullshit, but beware .. Quinn rant coming up (I really can't stand the guy) (view spoiler)

I still think it's bad series writing (even for a soap opera) to introduce a character in book 8 (Mhurder) and completely ignore him in book 9 & 10. Same with the Lash/Lesser storyline or the sympaths.


Adoore | 4 comments I so agree with you Janina it has turn into a complete soap opera without true villians. Lash is suppose to return from the dead like others but it hasn't been mentioned when.

Loved your post.


Kirsten  (kmcripn) | 8 comments I agree about the villains comment. The new bad guys end up being part of the romantic pool for Ward. That was never true of Lash, Mr X, the Omega...


Stacy  okun (stacyo40) | 180 comments i just got this from the library today, was gonna start it soon, but YIKES..not sure if I wanna now…
I did put down book 7 and never returned to it so i will start this one and see what happens


Adoore | 4 comments Let us know what you think.


message 11: by Lynn, Moderator (new) - rated it 4 stars

Lynn | 4047 comments Mod
Stacy - While it's not one of my favourites of the series I still enjoyed it and so did a lot of others.


Stacy  okun (stacyo40) | 180 comments i did start it last night…


Stacy  okun (stacyo40) | 180 comments i finished this one a few minutes ago..I think i really liked this one a lot. close second to Zs story.. The end was heart wrenching, when he had to let her go.. I teared up a bit..


Mochaspresso  | 9 comments This one wasn't one of my faves in the series, but in all fairness to Tohrment, he does come to love No'One but never actually bonds with her. I don't think that he does any of the typical "bonding" things that happen to males in the BDB world. ("mine", releasing a scent etc.)


Valerie (darthval) | 411 comments I've previously posted ad nauseum about my frustrations over the soap opera nature of the series and the conflicting mythology.

My biggest frustration with this book was that it totally messed up what I found most satisfying in my favorite book of the series, Lover Mine. Finally, there was one of these uber macho males willing to accept a female warrior for what she is! And then, we take them almost back to square one. What??? Is Ms. Ward just so incapable of developing a fresh plot that she has to rehash the same story rather than develop one of her many dangling threads? Or maybe she just wants to cash in on the fan love for John/Xhex? I could understand some redefining and challenges in the relationship, but to take it back to the same place was ridiculous.

As for No'One/Autumn and Tohr, their story was flat at best and annoying at worst.

Unlike Janina, I have come around to Quinn. I think their story has been a bit drawn out, and the Layla (view spoiler) came from left field and is more than a little silly. I am approaching Lover at Last with caution. I really want to like it, but I am not sure that I just Ms. Ward to do it justice. Guess we'll see.


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