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The Church and the Five-Fold Ministry: Should we put our trust in man?
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Should we put our trust in man? The Church and the Five-Fold Ministry

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message 1: by Ted (last edited May 18, 2018 10:09AM) (new)

Ted Roberts | 4 comments The Church and the Five-Fold Ministry: Should we put our trust in man?
The Church and the Five-Fold Ministry Should we put our trust in man? by Ted Roberts
New Christian, Theological book now available . . . Is the modern-day Church exactly what it should be? Are pastors and various other ministers doing their job correctly for the saints of God? Have the ministers that we find ourselves under truly been ordained by the Lord? Should we put our trust in man? Is it okay to be organized, or to be under a denomination? Are all the saints of God equal in status, or even equal to the ministry that they find themselves under? Are we able to find the pattern of the modern Church addressed in the New Testament letters? Are we supposed to be rebuilding the early church, or the Temple of Jerusalem, or even the Tabernacle in the wilderness? Or, have those days already come and gone? Should we advance beyond what has already been in the past? Is the modern church building the only thing left for us this day and age? And, are the practices and rituals that we perform within the church building the ultimate goal of the modern-day Christian? Or, are we supposed to advance beyond the building to see what God may have in store for us in this vast world? These are some of the questions that will be addressed in this book . . . Follow along with Christian, theological author Ted Roberts as he explores these ideas, and more, in "The church and the five-fold Ministry: Should we put our trust in man? Carnal ordinances, part 1, A guide for both Minister and Layman."
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Dave Campbell | 1 comments As a seasoned minister, I have an issue with the five-fold ministry teaching. Ephesians lists 5 offices, but 1 Corinthians 12 :28 seems to list 8 offices or functions. It appears the lists in Ephesians and in Corinthians are examples of offices and not meant to be complete and limiting lists. When we box God in and say this is all he can or will do, we can get in trouble. The Five-Fold teaching was originally connected with Edward Irving and advent of the Catholic Apostolic Church in 1832, then later popularized in movements like the Latter Reign and other similar groups. Most churches today that teach five-fold doctrine do not believe in any of the other doctrines that were originally associated with it, so my question is, why did we throw out all but one doctrine and decide this one is valid? Food for thought.

- Dave


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Ted Roberts | 4 comments Dave wrote: "As a seasoned minister, I have an issue with the five-fold ministry teaching. Ephesians lists 5 offices, but 1 Corinthians 12 :28 seems to list 8 offices or functions. It appears the lists in Ephes..."

Awesome thoughts, Dave! I totally agree with you, and I actually discuss these ideas within my book... Thanks for replying.


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