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Carbon dioxide levels hitting levels from 50 million years ago. In the early Eocene period 50 million years ago, life was good for the species that lived during that period. The big difference was that there was not one single human being on the planet. The distortion in the carbon dioxide levels is our signature and only a signature on a much greater book that details our activities. The carbon dioxide is a symptom, getting rid of it is not a cure.
https://www.astrobio.net/geology/how-...
The National Science Foundation and the American Chemical Society funded the research. The study forget to include human activity in their analysis of what the future might look like. Probably wouldn't have been able to come up with any conclusions if they included that monkey wrench in their calculations.
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https://www.scientificamerican.com/ar...
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It looks like, overall, CO2 emissions rose in the EU by 1.8% from 2016 to 2017. Britain and a few other countries have done well at cutting emissions, but others, such as Italy and Spain have had big increases.https://t.co/tM9XTvZF9c
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https://www.ecowatch.com/nasa-carbon-...
I don't think a 2% change either way is going to change the situation at this point in time. As the Earth continues to warm up by itself, all the locked up carbon naturally bound in place at previous cooler temperature levels will be released no matter what we do. Ironically it's like quitting smoking, one less cigarette a day is nothing compared to only one cigarette a day.
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https://www.ecowatch.com/science-deni...
Everybody has a limit as to how far they will go to change the situation we all find ourselves in. When you start talking about how profit based solutions pollutes the same earth we all live on by allowing the not best possible solutions to be utilized, the people invested in money start saying that is how the system works and it can't be changed, including their own investment schemes and every other financial instrument that legitimizes the theory of investment for profit based solutions for social and ecological situations.
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Its hard to know whats going on by looking at just parameter. I am not saying anything good is coming out of anything that is happening. In fact, my writings point to the conclusion that nothing good is happening.Its not black and white, but a continually shifting line in the sand. Current creatures with sea shells will lose their shells as the acidity of the ocean increases. But at the same time creatures that can build thicker shells at higher acidity levels will push out the ones that can't make thicker shells. More than likely the ones that can operate at higher acidity ratings are not doing so good at the lower ph levels. Might have smaller bodies, smaller shells.
Make no mistake about it, some life is going to disappear. But others will take their place, and there is no guarantee that the replacements will look anything like what they are replacing. No matter how smart mammals are there is no guarantee that the new climate will support life that is supportive of mammals.
One thing people might want to keep in mind, is that if we are going to use single parameters to make conclusions is that the surge in the spike of CO2 means that there had better be a spike in the opposite direction of the production of CO2 right now. Not just a couple of percentage points, but a whole lot, say something that matches the upwards spike itself.
Trying to find a graph for CO2 over the past couple of hundred million years. I figure it can be calculated by the types of minerals laid down in the geologic ages and by composition of fossils and other such things.
I don't think you can figure out what the temperature was in the past to the same degree of accuracy by reading those same parameters. Although people are coming up with graphs showing all kinds of numbers for temperatures to "prove" all kinds of statements.
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https://www.ecowatch.com/climate-laws...
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Children’s Climate Lawsuit Heads to Trial: Court Rejects Trump Attempt to Block It
The younger generation of Americans gives me hope. Climate action in the U.S. won't be driven by our federal government; it will have to come from states, localities, and grassroots activism.
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https://www.ted.com/talks/jennifer_wi......"
Very inspiring. Scientists like Ms. Wilcox give me hope! And I take solace from her common-sense emphasis on a multi-pronged approach, including regulation, carbon taxation, sequestration, etc.
Great to hear how many brilliant people are fighting the good fight for all of us!
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In fact,
"Diana Liverman, a climate scientist and co-author of the paper called out the media directly:
“Clearly people aren’t reading the paper we wrote where our point is exactly that Hothouse Earth is not our destiny and that social system feedbacks are starting to move us to the Stable Earth. But media goes for worst case and makes it sound certain.”"
https://grist.org/article/terrified-b...
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?reload=...
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https://bigthink.com/surprising-scien...
It might be better to just sequester the stuff until a better way of handling the entire situation can be discerned. Recycling carbon and plastic back into the environment is lowering the overall removal rate at a time when every little piece counts. Enough free carbon has already been released into the environment to last us quite a long time. Plastic is just another form of carbon. While plastic is cleaner than coal, it is still dirty carbon.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/ar...