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message 1: by Rafael (new)

Rafael da Silva (morfindel) | 1363 comments Actually I am not sure about what to do.

This book https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2... should be combined with this https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1....

Now the doubt. I am not sure that these editions (https://www.goodreads.com/work/editio...) are the complete one. The number of pages is lower than the Volume One, for example. So, maybe they all should be combined. I hope that someone know these books to opine about them.

Thank you.


message 2: by Z-squared (last edited Mar 28, 2018 04:49PM) (new)

Z-squared | 8580 comments This was a bloody mess. After about two hours of research on WorldCat, Amazon, and Wikipedia, I discovered that Georges Ifrah wrote Histoire Universelle des Chiffres in 1981, then revised it into a substantially longer 2-volume set in 1994. Additionally, he wrote another book along similar topics called Les chiffres ou l'histoire d'une grande invention in 1985, which was confusing things further. There are various translations of all three works, and some of those translations are divvied up into 2 parts and some into 3 and one Turkish edition in 9 parts (but another version in 2). And it doesn't help that some translations for Histoire Universelle des Chiffres and Les chiffres ou l'histoire d'une grande invention were given the same name in Italian. Eep.

But the TL;DR version is they're all sorted now.


message 3: by Rafael (last edited Mar 29, 2018 06:20AM) (new)

Rafael da Silva (morfindel) | 1363 comments Wow! Thank you.

But, are you sure that these books https://www.goodreads.com/work/editio... should remain combined? The portuguese edition has 735 pages (this datum was there when I added it to my shelf, I have the book) and the other editions have more than one thousand pages. Or this happen because formatting (font, size of letters etc)? But looking by myself I didn't find other edition that made me believe that that one was the right edition to be combined with it, so, you must be right. But someone could add the number of pages for it, please?

Thank you again for the amount of work done.


message 4: by Z-squared (last edited Mar 29, 2018 05:49PM) (new)

Z-squared | 8580 comments For the Portuguese edition, that ISBN actually belongs to the two-volume set. This happens sometimes--books belonging to a boxed set are published together under a single shared ISBN. My guess is 735 pages is for one of the volumes, not both. If you know the page length of the second volume, I can add them together and put that number on the record.

See worldcat for more info: http://www.worldcat.org/title/histori...


message 5: by Rafael (new)

Rafael da Silva (morfindel) | 1363 comments Yes, this info belongs to the v. 1, 735 pages. I don't know the number of pages of the second volume. So I should add the volume one to the database? But what editions represent the volume one?


message 6: by Z-squared (new)

Z-squared | 8580 comments Do you own volume 2 as well? Does it also have the same ISBN or a different one? Are they in a box together, and does the box have its own ISBN? If volumes 1 and 2 share an ISBN, as the WorldCat listing implies because they were published as a box set together, then we would not create a separate record on Goodreads for your volume 1. The record here with that ISBN would have to reflect both volumes. Is it a mistake on WorldCat? Do you have volume 2 and does it have a different ISBN? If so, then I can separate this record from the 2-volume sets and put your page count on.


message 7: by Rafael (new)

Rafael da Silva (morfindel) | 1363 comments I have only the volume 1. How I add only the volume one to my to read shelf?


message 8: by Z-squared (last edited Mar 31, 2018 03:22PM) (new)

Z-squared | 8580 comments I don't know. I need Rivka's help on this one. Rivka, should I add an ISBN-less edition with the volume 1 info so he can shelve it separately? Or do we just not have one because I can't find evidence it was ever published on its own? WorldCat does have an ISBN-less entry:

http://www.worldcat.org/title/histori...

But here is the version with an ISBN:

http://www.worldcat.org/title/histori...


message 9: by rivka, Librarian Moderator (new)

rivka | 42415 comments Mod
It does appear that they were only formally sold as a set. That means we would only list them that way.


message 10: by Rafael (new)

Rafael da Silva (morfindel) | 1363 comments Ok. Thank you.


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