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Servius  Heiner  | 360 comments Mod
The latest Rasmussen poll has Obama below %50 approval.
Across the country people are verbally attacking their own elected nitwits.

Can it be true? Are libs really this incompetent that they can fuck up having a commanding majority in all branches of government and still accomplish nothing? I don't know whether to jump up and do a jig, or cry.


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Not Bill | 467 comments Adding to Rusty:

4: The pointed criticisms of Obama that were raised by conservatives have proved correct. The US was told by the state run media that he'd be a moderate. That was a lie.

5: As I predicted, given absolute power via the presidency, majorities in the both houses of Congress and their choke-hold on the judiciary, the Dems would overreach. They would press hard for their ultimate goal of fundamentally reshaping this nation into their utopian ideal. Now we see they are pressing ahead irregardless of the wishes of the American People. Behold your new socialist overlords.

6. The more the Dems demonze the America People, the more they lose ground. Just today, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid labeled health care protesters as "evil mongers". Mark Levin was correct when he declared that the DNC has declared "political war" on the American People.

...the only question is - how will you respond?


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Not Bill | 467 comments They're bitchin' because for almost 30 years that's been their territory. God forbid conservatives get all uppity n shit. Look back at the last 4 weeks and notice the massive case of projection the Dems have engaged in. They've accused conservatives of doing everything they're currently engaged in. Fack em all. Fack em dead.


Servius  Heiner  | 360 comments Mod
I think the Dem's misread the election. They are so far removed from the day to day Americans that they thought they won the election... They didn't win Repubs lost. That doesn't mean Americans want commissars and comrades.

Anyone notice how quite all 'our friends' have become in the other groups about the obama administration?


message 5: by Not Bill (new)

Not Bill | 467 comments Indeed, SSH. I've been tempted to poke the hornets nest but figured what the heck. The Kool-Aid drinkers are beyond help. Here's looking forward to the bloodbath that the 2010 elections should be.


Servius  Heiner  | 360 comments Mod
One can hope. If people stay pissed off and Conservatives actually come up with a realistic unified game plan that doesn't evolve prayer we should be good.


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Not Bill | 467 comments ...and therein lies the problem.


message 8: by Jerrod (new)

Jerrod (liquidazrael) If republicans can get back to their roots, I think they could stand a chance. But then you have to doubt their sincerity, you never know if they're just playing the game. Could this lead to a viable third party? What do you guys think?


message 9: by RandomAnthony (new)

RandomAnthony I tell you what, I'm becoming more conservative every day...


message 10: by RandomAnthony (last edited Aug 20, 2009 05:57AM) (new)

RandomAnthony Ok, I have a couple questions/comments...and thanks, Rusty, for the welcome...

1. What books/resources would you recommend for someone wanting to learn more about conservatism?
2. I'm esp. interested in reasonable conservatism. Is that, um, ok? I don't mean to sound sarcastic, but I think one of the things that's kept me away from conservative culture is the "loud" people like Rush Limbaugh. Fox News is ok, usually, but I'm not a fan of O'Riley, etc. I think conservatism is much smarter and deserves a more reasonable approach. In fact, I hope that's where the movement is headed.
3. I am totally conflicted on Sarah Palin. I agree with many of her ideas, and I appreciate how she stands up for what she believes in, but she seems so defensive sometimes.

I hope I don't sound impudent in one of my first posts here. I'm honestly finding myself more and more critical of liberal thought and I think I may still be filtering some of the negative views of conservatism through my previous lens. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!


message 11: by RandomAnthony (new)

RandomAnthony I don't mind Ann Coulter...I'm reading one of her books on the side now. But thanks, Rusty...


message 12: by Not Bill (new)

Not Bill | 467 comments Greetings RA! In response to your inquiries - my take:

1. Good resources - The Heritage Foundation, the writings of Willliam F Buckley, Adam Smith, Edmund Burke, recorded speeches of Ronald Reagan, Mark Levin's recent masterwork, Liberty and Tyranny. That's just for starters. Good luck!

2. Limbaugh is all about Limbaugh. He makes some good points but in the end it's still about him. Liberals keep making the same mistake my making it all about him too, which exactly his intention. The early Limbaugh years of the early to mid 90s were a hoot. He took himself for less seriously, and was far more entertaining.

O'reilly? a Limbaugh wannabe - just without the talent.

3. Sarah Palin defensive? After nearly 20 frivolous ethics lawsuits, a literal army of political and media hit squads combing every inch of Alaska for dirt on the 'Cuda, and even the inside The Beltway "conservative punditry" dismissing her out of hand, who wouldn't be? I think she made the right move in resigning. It's taken the Libs out of their game and she's been extremely effective in skewering the Dems on Obamacare.


message 13: by RandomAnthony (new)

RandomAnthony Thanks, NB! I'll check out the Levin book first.

I hear what you're saying about Palin, I guess. Let me think about it. I'm hoping she maybe can be the "new" conservative element that pushes the movement forward, but she has to get used to getting attacked and not looking like she's out of control or easily rattled...that's my worry. Does that make sense?


message 14: by Not Bill (last edited Aug 20, 2009 02:09PM) (new)

Not Bill | 467 comments Heyas RA - Levin's book is an outstanding starting point. He points to true modern philosophers of conservatism, not who we see and hear in the media. Also, his book was written before Obama took office, yet it precisely dissects what is currently transpiring. The names and faces of Statism are meaningless in that the goals and methods of the Statist are nearly uniform.

As for Palin, I would not consider her the embodiment of "new conservative". That's a "neo-conservative" and that is an entirely different animal. She represents many tenants of bedrock conservatism. In that light, she's not the Second Coming by any means, simply a good and worthy footsoldier in the fight to preserve the Rebublic as it was envisioned by our Founding Fathers. Soon, we will see additional footsoldiers stepping forward. 2 women loom large, and I hope in the very near future to lend my efforts on behalf of one of them in what could be a Battle Royale here in Cali.


message 15: by RandomAnthony (new)

RandomAnthony Hey, VJean...

Thanks, people. This is all new to me and very helpful...thanks for welcoming me into the club, so to speak...


message 16: by Not Bill (new)

Not Bill | 467 comments Thanks Rusty. His passing was a great loss.


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