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Angela | 3517 comments Mod
Buddy Read starts April 10th.


Mayim de Vries | 2807 comments in


Beste | 1163 comments In in


Narilka | 2259 comments I'm in.


Barry (boprawira) | 1182 comments Started yesterday. Not as funny as OMW so far. Also more serious philosophical topics about consciousness and memories, which hopefully will get fleshed out more in a non-serious way throughout the book.


Timelord Iain | 13571 comments Barry wrote: "Started yesterday. Not as funny as OMW so far. Also more serious philosophical topics about consciousness and memories, which hopefully will get fleshed out more in a non-serious way throughout the..."

That's what I saw from other groupie reviews... I'll be reading this in a couple days, after my Way of Kings re-read...


Barry (boprawira) | 1182 comments Page 262, beginning Chapter 12

Charles Boutin
(view spoiler)

I'm also confused about Jared Dirac ... (view spoiler)

Interesting conversation between Dirac and Ceinen re: soldiers being slaves.

The pacing is really good. It's been a fast read so far. But, the characters are lacking depth. Not as memorable as the characters in OMW.


Barry (boprawira) | 1182 comments Finished just now, quite a quick read.

Not as funny as OMW, but it's still a decent continuation of the series.

The lack of new technologies introduced in this book, combined with the characterizations of the main characters, in my opinion, made the book significantly less funny than OMW. OMW was told through the points of view of old guys who were ready to take the light sides of every new experience they encountered; this book was written from the points of view of Jane Sagan and Jared Dirac. Jane Sagan was such a serious character, and the Special Forces soldiers in general, were such a mission-oriented unit that made them less fun as the "realborn" soldiers we were introduced previously. It's definitely lacking laugh-out-loud remarks that the realborns made back in OMW.

However, I do like the more serious ethical matters brought up in the book. Firstly the question of consciousness and memories and how they affect how each person grows up. Secondly the question of freedom of choice in a genetically engineered lifeforms of the future imagined in the OMW universe. Could you still have and make life-altering choices, if your consciousness and memories are based on another person? That's what Dirac had to figure out and decide throughout the book. I thought, the philosophical arguments were interesting, but not fleshed out enough. I thought, Mr. Scalzi concluded the arguments rather abruptly during the climax of the story. But then, maybe he's trying to keep the book rather lighthearted.

It's also gonna interesting to find out whether Boutin had it right (view spoiler)


Timelord Iain | 13571 comments Just started... the early chapters were a real tech-dump... seems to be normalizing now with the MC getting used to the BrainBuddy... similar, but different from, the first book...


Timelord Iain | 13571 comments I later realized that I was nearly 25% in when the book "started".. I might have misused the term...


Narilka | 2259 comments I'm a little over 100 pages in. It's interesting so far. Like Iain's said, similar but different. I don't feel as immediately engaged as I did with OMW but the characters are starting to grow on me. We'll see how it is after training.


Narilka | 2259 comments I'm on page 162. (view spoiler)


Timelord Iain | 13571 comments 45%: Orgy: Reminds me of the mind-meld orgy in Sense8 season 1 (I never got around to watching season 2)...

You can see part of it in this music video on youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyrI1...

You can also find the video on pornhub apparently, but that seemed like a link too far :D...


Timelord Iain | 13571 comments I'm around page 162 as well... 50% mark... I see what you guys are saying about ethical dilemmas... and war crimes... (view spoiler)

Realborn vs special forces: (view spoiler)


Timelord Iain | 13571 comments 75%: This is terrible... and genius: (view spoiler)


Mayim de Vries | 2807 comments I want to do Abraham first and then I'll be right here. :D


Timelord Iain | 13571 comments Finished... just agreeing with Barry basically... less hilarity... bit of an abrupt end... but some interesting information at the end, too...

Zoe: (view spoiler)


Narilka | 2259 comments Iain wrote: "75%: This is terrible... and genius: [spoilers removed]"

Oh yes. That was diabolical.


Narilka | 2259 comments Finished it. That was more of a tragedy than I expected. It might be in OMW's universe and share characters but didn't feel like a sequel exactly though it's always possible that book 3 will tie them both together. I think I need to go scan some reviews of book 3 to see if I want to continue.

Boutin: (view spoiler)


Timelord Iain | 13571 comments Books 3 & 4 (view spoiler)

Not sure about books 5&6


Narilka | 2259 comments Iain, about books 3 & 4 (view spoiler)


message 22: by Timelord Iain (last edited Apr 13, 2018 06:48PM) (new) - rated it 4 stars

Timelord Iain | 13571 comments Narilka wrote: "Iain, about books 3 & 4 [spoilers removed]"

I didn't realize that until you said it and I dug deeper... almost every review says the ending chapters are all that matter about the 4th book...


message 23: by Beste (last edited Apr 16, 2018 12:26AM) (new) - rated it 3 stars

Beste | 1163 comments Finally started. Lets see who these ppl are.


Barry (boprawira) | 1182 comments Iain wrote: "75%: This is terrible... and genius: [spoilers removed]"

It's interesting to note that humans in this world depends so so much on technology ... more so than other species. It seems in this OMW world, humans have slowly left their humanities. Especially with the (view spoiler)


Barry (boprawira) | 1182 comments Iain wrote: "Narilka wrote: "Iain, about books 3 & 4 [spoilers removed]"

I didn't realize that until you said it and I dug deeper... almost every review says the ending chapters are all that matter about the 4..."

Yeah, I think book 4 is Zoe telling parts of what's gonna happen in book 3 from her pov.


Beste | 1163 comments I like this book too.
I'm in the middle and I decided I will stop whining about new characters.
Curious about Jared's character development. Lets see who will be dominant.


Beste | 1163 comments Just finished. This was good as the first one. Fun read but still 3 stars. I wonder how Zoe will grow up now. Happy for (view spoiler)


Mayim de Vries | 2807 comments I read it at one sitting so my comments will be brief. Fun read, no doubts about it but lacks the novelty of the previous instalment. Also, the MC was inferior to John Perry (although having Jane was a plus). But the biggest disadvantage was the fact that I could see the Boutin ruse from far ahead (view spoiler) and from then on, it was only waiting for the inevitable.


Choko (chokog) | 5098 comments Iain wrote: "I'm around page 162 as well... 50% mark... I see what you guys are saying about ethical dilemmas... and war crimes... [spoilers removed]

Realborn vs special forces: [spoilers removed]"


I am just there and I hated this scene!!! i get it, but I still hate it...

Loved the video though, Iain:)


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