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Life Without Ed - Short Sections > Bones (Physical Effects of Ed, pg 161-163)

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message 1: by Jenni (last edited Oct 18, 2017 02:02PM) (new)

Jenni Schaefer (jennischaefer) | 416 comments Mod
In another thread (Recovery at Any Age), the topic of physical health kept popping up. So, I decided to start this thread to cover topics related to the physical effects of an eating disorder.

In this section of Life Without Ed ("Bones"), I talk about developing osteoporosis in my twenties. Over ten years later, here is the good news: I do NOT have osteoporosis anymore. In fact, my bones, according to my doctor recently, are strong and healthy. This is recovery. Hold onto this hope for yourself.

In this thread, let's inspire each other. Instead of just listing everything that Ed has stolen from you in terms of health, let's talk about how recovery has made our bodies stronger. Let's share positive affirmations and tools that helped us.

Examples...
- I enjoy movement now. My strong body takes me on walks in nature!
- In recovery, I stayed closely connected with a medical doctor, which helped immensely.
- I found "intuitive exercise" to be helpful. I move in the way that my body wants to move. Sometimes, this means I just lie on the couch!
- I get the sleep I need today. With Ed, he never let me sleep.

All in all, let's stay focused on the solution. I look forward to hearing from you!

** Please remember to keep your posts non-triggering. Per the rules of the group, no numbers (e.g., weights, calories, clothing sizes). Also, please refrain from posting specific eating disordered behaviors. We want to keep this group non-triggering and focused on the solution. Triggering posts will be deleted in order to protect our special group. **


message 2: by Sara (new)

Sara Leopold | 68 comments Great comments on this thread!


message 3: by Melody (new)

Melody | 212 comments For me, I am so grateful to be in a better, more healthy relationship with movement. For the last year or so, I feel like I've finally developed a balance of what it means to move in a recovery way. I love doing yoga and going for runs and am even running my second half marathon this year! I have found that running is hugely symbolic for recovery and taking it one step at a time.


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Sara Leopold | 68 comments i wonder how many ED sufferers have osteoporosis. I was diagnosed as osteopenic at about 40, and osteoporosis about 45! Medication is really essential. Weights/exercise helps but is not enough. A trainer at the gym told me that in order to reverse the bone density I would have to do a lot of extremely heavy weights, which I could never do..


message 5: by Jenni (new)

Jenni Schaefer (jennischaefer) | 416 comments Mod
Melody wrote: "For me, I am so grateful to be in a better, more healthy relationship with movement. For the last year or so, I feel like I've finally developed a balance of what it means to move in a recovery way..."

Great point! Recovery is a marathon, not a sprint! Thanks again for sharing, Melody.


message 6: by Jenni (last edited Oct 25, 2017 06:11PM) (new)

Jenni Schaefer (jennischaefer) | 416 comments Mod
Sara wrote: "i wonder how many ED sufferers have osteoporosis. I was diagnosed as osteopenic at about 40, and osteoporosis about 45! Medication is really essential. Weights/exercise helps but is not enough. A t..."

I was diagnosed with osteoporosis at age 22. But, now, my bones are strong and healthy (no osteoporosis; no osteopenia). My doctor told me that the best medicine for me was eating. Nourishing my body helped to turn my bone density around. Also, walking was helpful. (Walking is a weight-bearing exercise.) This is a page via NIH about exercises for bone health: https://www.bones.nih.gov/health-info...

Thanks, Sara!


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Sara Leopold | 68 comments Jenni wrote: "Sara wrote: "i wonder how many ED sufferers have osteoporosis. I was diagnosed as osteopenic at about 40, and osteoporosis about 45! Medication is really essential. Weights/exercise helps but is no..."

Hi Jenny, I didn't understand the problem and start doing anything about it until I was post menopausal, and the lack of oestrgen then made it worse.


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Jenni Schaefer (jennischaefer) | 416 comments Mod
Sara wrote: "Jenni wrote: "Sara wrote: "i wonder how many ED sufferers have osteoporosis. I was diagnosed as osteopenic at about 40, and osteoporosis about 45! Medication is really essential. Weights/exercise h..."

Thanks for sharing, Sara. Your comment truly speaks to the importance of early intervention for eating disorders, in general. Your words might just inspire someone to get help sooner than later. Thanks for that.


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Sara Leopold | 68 comments Sara wrote: "Jenni wrote: "Sara wrote: "i wonder how many ED sufferers have osteoporosis. I was diagnosed as osteopenic at about 40, and osteoporosis about 45! Medication is really essential. Weights/exercise h..."

Jenny, I get the impression that most people on this forum are anorexic or "almost anorexic" which is not me. I wish it was. I wish I had the key to saying no to Ed. I keep falling back. Even when I vow never again, i have the urge and It feels like its want really want and feel driven. Can you give any little clue how to say no?


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Ash (ashkuhl) | 4 comments Hi There - On this topic, I remember very vividly the feeling of absolutely no physical bodily momentum when deep in my eating disorder. Each step would feel herculean some days.

In recovery, I have a spring in my step some days, and most days even if not the springiest, my body moves and it is not such a feat. I no longer evaluate my movements as calorie burning or slowing my metabolism. Movement can be silly, and fun, and for no reason at all. I walk as meditation sometimes, and I walk to get my blood flowing or to clear a brain fog, and for health, but not out of compulsion any longer. And that feels so much better.

Down with "the hustle", as Brene would refer to it as. :p


message 11: by Jenni (new)

Jenni Schaefer (jennischaefer) | 416 comments Mod
Ashley wrote: "Hi There - On this topic, I remember very vividly the feeling of absolutely no physical bodily momentum when deep in my eating disorder. Each step would feel herculean some days.

In recovery, I h..."


I love Dr. Brene Brown! Thanks for your great comment, Ashley. That is so inspiring what you said about having a spring in your step. I get that, too, now!


message 12: by Jenni (new)

Jenni Schaefer (jennischaefer) | 416 comments Mod
Sara wrote: "Sara wrote: "Jenni wrote: "Sara wrote: "i wonder how many ED sufferers have osteoporosis. I was diagnosed as osteopenic at about 40, and osteoporosis about 45! Medication is really essential. Weigh..."

Sara, I am deeply sorry you are struggling. I think you might want to check out the Inspiration thread or the Encouragement thread (in General discussion section). Also, I just started adding threads from Goodbye Ed, Hello Me: Recover from Your Eating Disorder and Fall in Love with Life.... this book talks about how to keep going. It is all about saying no to Ed forever.

Also, you wrote something very key to talk about in the group. From my experience and perspective, no one would ever want any eating disorder. All eating disorders, regardless of the name, are torture. BED, anorexia, OSFED/EDNOS, bulimia, ARFID, almost anorexic, etc. are all beyond painful. All eating disorders sadly can have their own serious medical consequences.

The important point is to seek similarities: We are all a team here. We all support you! I think I might add a new thread about this idea...seeking similarities. I used to have such a hard time doing this! Never quit. Keep reaching out.


message 13: by Melody (new)

Melody | 212 comments I like the idea of having a thread about similarities--it really doesn't matter what our diagnosis is, the thoughts are so much the same!!


message 14: by Sara (new)

Sara Leopold | 68 comments Thanks Jenny. I'm on holiday in Bali an reading Goodbye Ed, Hello Me right now! I love it. You are so inspring.
Sara


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Jenni Schaefer (jennischaefer) | 416 comments Mod
Melody wrote: "I like the idea of having a thread about similarities--it really doesn't matter what our diagnosis is, the thoughts are so much the same!!"

Here you go, Melody...that thread about similarities!

https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/...


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Jenni Schaefer (jennischaefer) | 416 comments Mod
Sara wrote: "Thanks Jenny. I'm on holiday in Bali an reading Goodbye Ed, Hello Me right now! I love it. You are so inspring.
Sara"


Oh wow, that is so cool! Thank you so much for reading my book. I would love to visit there one day. That is awesome that my book, at least, gets to visit!


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Sara Leopold | 68 comments Jenni wrote: "Sara wrote: "Thanks Jenny. I'm on holiday in Bali an reading Goodbye Ed, Hello Me right now! I love it. You are so inspring.
Sara"

Oh wow, that is so cool! Thank you so much for reading my book. I..."


Hi Jenni, Yo would love Bali. Its so peaceful and the people are very spiritual and kindness is part of their everyday culture.

I was amazed in this book how many similarities with my life - in never inviting people into my home, being too buy to socialise, and it has been a recent project (for the last 12 months or so) that I have made it part of my structured life to set aside time for socialising, preferably with people I feel comfortable with and enjoy being around, but also duty things, and social events which in the past I would have avoided, but when I go I do feel uplifted (usually) and I see how important it is to have connections with people in life. I still have not invited anyone to my house for about 10 years!

I also work on my kitchen table and my livingroom is covered with work. I actually don't even have another room to use as an office so thi i how it will stay!


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Jenni Schaefer (jennischaefer) | 416 comments Mod
Sara wrote: "Jenni wrote: "Sara wrote: "Thanks Jenny. I'm on holiday in Bali an reading Goodbye Ed, Hello Me right now! I love it. You are so inspring.
Sara"

Oh wow, that is so cool! Thank you so much for read..."


Bali sounds absolutely amazing! We do sound a lot alike! It sounds like you are working hard and making lots of progress. Keep it up. Very inspiring. Thanks again for reading my 2nd book!


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