Sword & Sorcery: "An earthier sort of fantasy" discussion

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message 1: by S.E., Gray Mouser (new)

S.E. Lindberg (SELindberg) | 1382 comments Mod
Time to unearth arcana! Sword & Sorcery, our group reads for July and August are "OBSCURE WORKS." So we all won't be reading the same books, but we all can search for them, read, discuss, and review them! Let's shed a little light on lost gems.

Remember the poll? Poll Link for obscure bookst... if you need a goal, try one of those. If you voted for one, read it or discuss why you chose it. Our banner is made from two of those items:

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Heather Gladney's Blood Storm (sequel to Teot's War of The Song of Naga Teot series). Cover by John Jude Palencar 1989

The Book of Paradox by Louise Cooper, cover by Frank Frazetta 1973.

Blood Storm (The Song of Naga Teot, #2) by Heather Gladney The Book of Paradox by Louise Cooper


message 2: by S.E., Gray Mouser (last edited Jun 17, 2017 09:41AM) (new)

S.E. Lindberg (SELindberg) | 1382 comments Mod
I have two in the queue for this:

1) The Book of Paradox

2) Shadow Of The Wolf by Robert Holdstock/Chris Carlsen

Note that the entire Berserker series is available as an Omnibus...someone here told me about this ... I think it was Stan Wagenaar:

US Link = https://www.amazon.com/Berserker-SF-G...
Berserker SF Gateway Omnibus: The Shadow of the Wolf, The Bull Chief, The Horned Warrior


message 3: by S.E., Gray Mouser (new)

S.E. Lindberg (SELindberg) | 1382 comments Mod
Steven Morgan from Facebook adds: "Messenger of Zhuvastou" by Andrew J Offut is an overlooked classic." Our group has a Facebook page as a protal page, not for chatting, so I redirected here.

Messenger Of Zhuvastou

Messenger Of Zhuvastou by Andrew J. Offutt


message 4: by Jack, Bran Jack Morn (new)

Jack (AlamoJack) | 410 comments Mod
Great work on the banner, as always, S.E.

I voted for Campbell's "Far Away & Never." A seller on Amazon is offering a copy for $4,392.89. I'll keep looking....

I did discover that he also wrote the novelization of the Solomon Kane movie from 2009. I liked that movie and may pick this one up. It's cheaper by $4,390.90.


message 5: by S.E., Gray Mouser (new)

S.E. Lindberg (SELindberg) | 1382 comments Mod
We actually have a lead contact with publisher for Ryre: Far Away and Never from the groupread a few yrs ago. Order direct from the original publisher may still be feasible... will need to look up the email


message 6: by S.E., Gray Mouser (new)

S.E. Lindberg (SELindberg) | 1382 comments Mod
http://necropress.com/product/campbel...

Madeleine Michaud was running the Press in her father's stead a few yrs ago.

Less than $7 usd


message 7: by Jack, Bran Jack Morn (new)

Jack (AlamoJack) | 410 comments Mod
S.E. wrote: "http://necropress.com/product/campbel...

Madeleine Michaud was running the Press in her father's stead a few yrs ago.

Less than $7 usd"


Ah, much better. Thanks!


message 8: by S.E., Gray Mouser (new)

S.E. Lindberg (SELindberg) | 1382 comments Mod
They also have Ghor Kinslayer... which should have been the best compilation ever .... but was executed poorly. For REH buffs and S&S, its worth 8$ for historical perspective.


message 9: by Dennis (new)

Dennis | 3 comments Has anyone read Shadow of His Wings by Bruce Fergusson or Tara of the Twilight by Lin Carter ?


message 10: by Richard (new)

Richard | 236 comments Shadow of His Wings was great. I found it used in my local bookstore and the Darrell K Sweet cover sold me. The next book The Mace of Souls is also good. Although, I remember it being slow to start.


message 11: by Joseph (new)

Joseph | 737 comments I don't think I ever read Shadow of his Wings, but I'm pretty sure I read Mace of Souls; at least, I owned it.

Never read Tara of the Twilight -- that was Carter's (shudder) erotica, wasn't it? (n.b. I have no particular problems with either Lin Carter or erotica, but I think they're two great tastes that should probably be kept far, far apart from each other.)


message 12: by Derek (new)

Derek | 33 comments Dennis wrote: "Has anyone read Shadow of His Wings by Bruce Fergusson or Tara of the Twilight by Lin Carter ?"

I've read Tara of the Twilight and hated it. The erotica was Lin Carter's own creepy fetishes, the protagonist was the author's typically shallow and passive woman-character, and the sword-and-sorcery couldn't keep it glued together.


message 13: by S.E., Gray Mouser (last edited Jul 01, 2017 12:40PM) (new)

S.E. Lindberg (SELindberg) | 1382 comments Mod
Just finished The Book of Paradox, Louise Cooper's 1973 debut [Frazetta cover on a first novel? awesome]. A nice trip to a dreamy afterlife that has echoes of Moorcok and Vance.

Review: https://www.goodreads.com/review/show...

Anyone read her Indigo or Time Master series?


message 14: by Richard (new)

Richard | 236 comments I read the Time Master series years ago. The details are foggy, but I remember liking it.


message 15: by Joseph (new)

Joseph | 737 comments I read Indigo, Time Master and the Time Master prequel & sequel trilogies. I'd say the prequel & sequel stuff can be skipped, but would definitely recommend the Time Master trilogy and the Indigo books. She also had a standalone, Mirage, that's worth checking out.

Shame that she died relatively young, and is mostly out of print these days.


message 16: by Richard (new)

Richard | 236 comments This may be common knowledge, but if you are having trouble finding certain titles www.bookfinder.com is an excellent tool.


message 17: by Anthony (last edited Jul 08, 2017 08:58PM) (new)

Anthony | 6 comments S.E. wrote: "Steven Morgan from Facebook adds: "Messenger of Zhuvastou" by Andrew J Offut is an overlooked classic." Our group has a Facebook page as a protal page, not for chatting, so I redirected here."

I'll try to fit "Zhuvastou" into my summer schedule. I just finished Offutt's "The Shadow of Sorcery" today (I came across it randomly in a used bookstore down South during a business trip), and the novel is much better than I'd expected. It has a mercifully low level of Offutt's habitual, soft-porn sexism, and surprisingly high amounts of unusual plot twists, non-standard characters and metafictional humor. "Shadow" is a sequel to "Shadowspawn", but it's one of those rare sequels that outshine their predecessors. I'd say that it, too, deserves more exposure to S&S readers.


message 18: by T.C. (new)

T.C. Rypel (TedRypel) | 108 comments Hey, Seth!

I've been remiss in joining in on many of the worthy topics you propose here (though I do follow them all). But I was moved today to post in this "obscure works" thread about a medieval heroic-fantasy classic many readers may have missed. It's a salient work that surely inspired me, among many better-known titles, during the time when I was firing the creative crucible that led to my Gonji series, around 1980.

I'm talking about THE DOOMFARERS OF CORAMONDE, by Brian Daley. It's the tale of the crew of an American APC in Viet Nam that gets teleported, all armament intact, into a conflict in a fantasy kingdom rife with dragons, sorcery and besieged castles. (Flaming dragons vs. phosphorous grenades---get outta town!)

I personally bear a fondness for cross-time/cross-cultural-technological conflicts (as even a cursory look into the Gonji books would reveal). So this one really triggered my enchantment machinery. Highly recommended.

Daley penned one sequel---THE STARFOLLOWERS OF CORAMONDE---before a tragically early death. His literary star was on the rise, I think.


message 19: by S.E., Gray Mouser (new)

S.E. Lindberg (SELindberg) | 1382 comments Mod
TC, thx for the adds. I include Goodread quicklinks to those:

The Doomfarers of Coramonde and...
The Starfollowers of Coramonde by Brian Daley


The Doomfarers of Coramonde (Coramonde, #1) by Brian Daley The Starfollowers of Coramonde (Coramonde, #2) by Brian Daley


message 20: by T.C. (new)

T.C. Rypel (TedRypel) | 108 comments Thanks for adding the links, Seth. I see that in the "Readers Also Enjoyed" section next to the DOOMFARERS page, they list Roger Zelazny's ROADMARKS, another cross-cultural dimension-hopper I'm pleased to recommend, this time about an adventurous arms dealer in a beat-up pickup truck who accesses a mysterious, ancient road that enables travel through space and time. A small but very enjoyable little action thriller in Roger's celebrated output.

I'm a bit partial to Roger, having met him a few times when I was a kid and he was still living here in the Cleveland area, before work took him to Baltimore. His Amber series had significant impetus on my decision to get serious about working in heroic-fantasy. I'm still casual friends with his author-son Trent.


message 21: by Joseph (new)

Joseph | 737 comments I love Zelazny and just wish more of his stuff was available in eBook (even though I have pretty much everything in paperback). I reread Jack of Shadows a couple of years ago and it remains a favorite.

As far as dimension-hopping adventurers, there's also always Robert A. Heinlein's Glory Road ...


message 22: by Jason M (new)

Jason M Waltz (WordDancer) | 152 comments Started Norvell Page's Flame Winds at the pool. Lots of rhapsodic fun thus far!


message 23: by Nik (new)

Nik Hawkins (nihawkins) | 12 comments I'm making my way through Charles de Lint's A Handful of Coppers, a collection of his early, lesser-known heroic fantasy. It's fascinating to see an established wordsmith's early works.


message 24: by Jason M (new)

Jason M Waltz (WordDancer) | 152 comments Nik wrote: "I'm making my way through Charles de Lint's A Handful of Coppers, a collection of his early, lesser-known heroic fantasy. It's fascinating to see an established wordsmith's early works."
I'll be interested to see what you share about how heroic the stories are.


message 25: by Dean (new)

Dean | 13 comments I don't know if this is the right place to ask but, has any one read the Iron Lords by Offutt? Is it worth tracking down?
Also Suaine and the crow god by stuart gordon was an interesting fantasy/historical kind of weird book--I liked the writing. . .


message 26: by Richard (new)

Richard | 236 comments I really enjoyed the Iron Lords by Andrew Offutt. Although, the story doesn't have a definitive ending. Lady Of The Snowmist left me wanting more. I say if you've liked Offutt in the past go for it.

From the cover art Suaine and the Crow-God looks like a Viking type story. I cannot find a synopsis anywhere. And it looks like it might fit right in with the Obscure book read this month.


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