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Melanti | 2386 comments This thread is for background information and general discussion of our February 2017 New School Group Read selection, Lady Chatterley's Lover by D.H. Lawrence.

Please DO NOT post spoilers in this thread.



Possibly because of the unconventional publication history, it appears that this isn't under copyright in the United States but most of the standard US based sites for public domain books aren't going to host it due to the publication year. Other countries with shorter copyright durations are willing to host it, though.

Here's some free editions I found. As a caution, some of these might be censored editions so if you're wanting an unexpurgated edition, make sure to take a close look.

Gutenberg Australia
Archive.org Audio edition, read by Jan McLaughlin
Amazon UK
I'm not seeing any free copies on Amazon.com.

The unexpurgated version of this book was banned in half a dozen countries in the first half of the 20th century, though censored editions were in publication in some of those countries.

Most of the bans were legally challenged and overturned in the late 50s and early 60s. The UK ban was overturned in 1960 with a court case that has been dramatized by the BBC. Apparently even a book describing the British trial (The Trial of Lady Chatterley) was banned in Australia.

If anyone wants info on a specific country, the Wiki article is here. One of the tidbits I found amusing is: "Soon after the 1928 publication and suppression, an unexpurgated Tauchnitz edition appeared in Europe. Jock Colville, then 18, purchased a copy in Germany in 1933 and lent it to his mother Lady Cynthia, who passed it on to Queen Mary, only for it to be confiscated by King George V." I wonder if King George ever said anything about it to Colville? Or even how that story became public knowledge?


Pink | 6556 comments Haha, I love that story about the book being passed around and ending up with Queen Mary and King George V, I wonder if they liked it?!

I loved this book. It was my first and is still the only DH Lawrence novel I've read. I was swept up by the romance (which wasn't as graphic as I'd been expecting) but I also enjoyed other elements of the story and how it portrayed the differences between classes after the first world war.


Myst | 173 comments I started this a few days ago. *Pretty* sure my copy is uncensored as it's a paperback and I believe it was printed in the UK (sometime after 1972).

First published 1928
This complete text first published in Great Britain 1960
Reprinted 1960
Second edition, with an introduction by Richard Hoggart, 1961
Reprinted 1961, 1965, 1966, 1967, 1969 (twice), 1970, 1971, 1972

Copyright the Estate of D.H. Lawrence, 1960
Introduction copyright by Richard Hoggart, 1961

Made and printed in Great Britain
by C. Nicholls & Company Ltd


Melanti | 2386 comments Myst wrote: "I started this a few days ago. *Pretty* sure my copy is uncensored as it's a paperback and I believe it was printed in the UK (sometime after 1972). ..."

From the looks of the copyright page, yeah, that looks like it'd be uncensored.
Nice of them to be so clear about it!
Hopefully most modern editions are going to be uncensored, but I'm sure a few censored ones exist- especially in ebook format.


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Sarah (sasstel) | 426 comments I may join in this read, if I have the time. I have had an old dusty copy sitting on my shelves for about three years now. Maybe this will give me the push I need to actually pick it up.


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I'm in for this one. This is the edition that I have: Lady Chatterley's Lover by D.H. Lawrence , looks racy enough to be unexpurgated.


Piyangie | 403 comments Just finished reading this. It is my first ever read of a D.H. Lawrence. I loved the story and enjoyed the romance but what touched me more was the underlying concepts of class difference and changes that was threatening to be made by industrialization.


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Sarah (sasstel) | 426 comments I have an ancient 1973 edition...which according the cover is "the unexpurgated 1928 Orioli edition," so I'm good to go. :) Lady Chatterley's Lover by D.H. Lawrence


Susan O (sozmore) I got an unexpurgated edition for .99 on Amazon.


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Leni Iversen (leniverse) | 1182 comments I am so ready for this! I looked back through the spreadsheets I used before joining Goodreads, and I have been meaning to read this every year since at least 2012. I have the collected works of D.H. Lawrence, but it hasn't occurred to me to check that it hasn't been censored and purged! Ack! I will look into that ASAP.


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Erin Green | 145 comments Count me in too. I started to read LCL yesterday - I've never read any of Lawrence's work before but am enjoying what I have read so far.


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Loretta | 2668 comments I'm reading it too. Started yesterday. I'm a few chapters in. :)

Oh, and I've not read anything by Lawrence either!


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Leni Iversen (leniverse) | 1182 comments Ok, my edition has an introduction that mentions the 1960s Penguin edition and the UK trial, so I'm going to assume that they have managed not to use the censured text. As for previous reading, I've read The Virgin and the Gipsy, which wasn't great. It was pretty much what you could expect from the title. lol I'm sure this will be better!


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Pink | 6556 comments Leni, I really didn't like The Virgin and the Gipsy very much at all, this was so much better!


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Matt Carl (pressenter) I will probably start it later this week.


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Myst | 173 comments My edition on GR claims to be Lady Chatterley's Lover by D.H. Lawrence but that is *not* my cover. I cannot find my cover anywhere on GR.

http://flashbak.com/wp-content/upload... is my edition cover.


Loretta | 2668 comments Myst wrote: "My edition on GR claims to be Lady Chatterley's Lover by D.H. Lawrence but that is *not* my cover. I cannot find my cover anywhere on GR.

http://flashbak.com/wp-content/upload......"


Myst, you can always "add" your cover on Goodreads. I've done that a bunch of times because my library has really old editions of the books that I read. Course sometimes that means the cover listed on your "read" shelf is blank and they aren't as jazzy or pretty! :)


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Myst | 173 comments I'm not anal enough to "require" a specific cover/edition. I usually just put the prettiest cover as my cover. Or the edition with the closest number of pages to mine.

The only time I get anal is if the most common edition is an audio edition and I must switch it to another edition. I count pages and the audio 'pages' are kind of a joke.


Loretta | 2668 comments Myst wrote: "I'm not anal enough to "require" a specific cover/edition. I usually just put the prettiest cover as my cover. Or the edition with the closest number of pages to mine.

The only time I get anal is ..."


Oh, I hear you Myst! As a matter of fact, the cover I posted on my profile page for Lady Chatterley's Lover is not the edition I'm reading. I couldn't find it on Goodreads so I did add the cover but, it was blank and I wanted something interesting on my page so I left it as you see it.


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Myst | 173 comments Loretta wrote: "Myst wrote: "I'm not anal enough to "require" a specific cover/edition. I usually just put the prettiest cover as my cover. Or the edition with the closest number of pages to mine.

The only time I..."


So if my ISBN is in the database, how do I add an alternate cover?

And I'm sort of curious what the bird may represent if anything. Most covers for this book seem to be on the racier side which makes sense considering its sex related contents helped get it banned.


Loretta | 2668 comments Myst wrote: "Loretta wrote: "Myst wrote: "I'm not anal enough to "require" a specific cover/edition. I usually just put the prettiest cover as my cover. Or the edition with the closest number of pages to mine.
..."


I don't think the ISBN is a required field when you add a book. Can't be because like I said, the books I add are usually older than dirt (lol) and don't have an ISBN.

Yea. I have no idea what the bird represents. Seems really out of place. I really like my cover. It's a hardcover book in blue with the title in silver and two hearts underneath it. Plain and simple, not racy and not just blah ness! :)


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Pink | 6556 comments Lady Chatterley's Lover by D.H. Lawrence Myst, this is the old penguin edition I read, that has a very similar cover. There are birds in the story...


Melanti | 2386 comments Myst wrote: "So if my ISBN is in the database, how do I add an alternate cover? ..."

You add everything but the ISBN.

My Kindle edition cover is pretty racy, but the audio edition is a disappointingly generic landscape.


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Leni Iversen (leniverse) | 1182 comments Melanti wrote: "Myst wrote: "So if my ISBN is in the database, how do I add an alternate cover? ..."

You add everything but the ISBN.

My Kindle edition cover is pretty racy, but the audio edition is a disappoint..."


I thought you could only add books if you have librarian status? Or is that only if you want to change/correct book info?


Melanti | 2386 comments Anyone can add editions, but you can only edit existing ones if you have librarian status.
You can also post in the librarian's group if you want to have an edition added but don't want to do it yourself or if you see something that's wrong and needs to be fixed.


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Leni Iversen (leniverse) | 1182 comments Melanti wrote: "Anyone can add editions, but you can only edit existing ones if you have librarian status.
You can also post in the librarian's group if you want to have an edition added but don't want to do it y..."


I see! Thanks.


Loretta | 2668 comments Pink wrote: "Lady Chatterley's Lover by D.H. Lawrence Myst, this is the old penguin edition I read, that has a very similar cover. There are birds in the story..."

Thanks for the info Pink on the birds! Guess we didn't get to that part yet! :)


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I tried to PM but it wasn't possible. Hence I'm writing here (not ideal). I have a request pending to you and I have no memory of making this request. I tried to withdraw request but was unable to on my phone. This message is also on another thread but can I remember which thread? Of course not! :D. My memory is shocking owing to illness and treatment so please release me from 'The Pending Mystery' - part 3 of the new best-selling detective series. Thank you in anticipation ...


Melanti | 2386 comments Sorry if it's causing confusion, but I don't always accept friend requests and can't cancel anything on my end.

You might have to try to view it via a browser rather than an app. Or try asking in the feedback group for any other suggestions.


Piyumi Pink wrote: "Haha, I love that story about the book being passed around and ending up with Queen Mary and King George V, I wonder if they liked it?!

I loved this book. It was my first and is still the only DH ..."


I'm in for discussing once everyone is done reading. I had read this awhile back and agree with Pink here, was swept away by the romance, but found the other themes very interesting too such as female choices and the class issue that arose after the war, which Lawrence had portrayed well within the main story.


Piyumi N. J. wrote: "This one will be gobbled up in just 3 days. It's my second D. H. Lawrence read, the first was 'Sons and Lovers'."

Cool! I finished Chatterley in couple of days as well and Sons and Lovers was my first Lawrence work too :)


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Jessica (longlivelibraries) | 8 comments Just started reading it today--really curious about this one. My edition is a Modern Library copy (pub. 2001, unfortunately not listed on GR) that includes a very interesting biographical note and intro.


Janet (goodreadscomjanetj) | 852 comments Starting this tonight.


Wreade1872 | 727 comments I started this a little while ago, i think one of the first time i'm in line with the group :) .
Anyway its a lot more... philosophical than i expected at least so far i'm about 6 or 7 chapters in.
The writing style is a bit up and down for me. I'm quite interested in whether it will grow on me or start to annoy as i read further.


Emily Dybdahl | 147 comments I just started reading Chatterley-I'm loving Lawrence's detailed, thoughtful descriptions and character development. everything I hated about Women in Love, I like in Chatterley.


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I finished this last night. I have to say I never realized some of those words existed back in the mid-1920's.

I find DH Lawrence a bit too philosophical for me. A little bit is good, but too much is...too much for me. I notice this when I started reading Women in Love, which I haven't finished.


Emily Dybdahl | 147 comments Pam wrote: "I finished this last night. I have to say I never realized some of those words existed back in the mid-1920's.

I find DH Lawrence a bit too philosophical for me. A little bit is good, but too muc..."


I thought the same thing and Women in Love was wayyyy too much philosophizing-Chatterley is better in that regard.


Melanti | 2386 comments This was my first time reading Lawrence. Does he generally philosophize about these same issues? Or do other books cover different topics?


Emily Dybdahl | 147 comments Melanti wrote: "This was my first time reading Lawrence. Does he generally philosophize about these same issues? Or do other books cover different topics?"

Women in Love also talked about the relationships between men and women and what they should and shouldn't be (ad nauseum, in my opinion...sorry to be negative but I didn't like that book lol). That's the only one I've read of Lawrence though so I can't speak for his other works.


Melanti | 2386 comments Good to know. I'll keep it in mind when/if I ever read another book by him and be prepared for a lot of philosphy


Emily Dybdahl | 147 comments Melanti wrote: "Good to know. I'll keep it in mind when/if I ever read another book by him and be prepared for a lot of philosphy"

I just finished Chatterley and really liked it! I would like to read Sons and Lovers sometime soon and hoping that it's more like Chatterley.


Janet (goodreadscomjanetj) | 852 comments So far I am enjoying the philosophizing more than any thing else in the book. I really don't like the characters much but was interested in Clifford's talking with Connie about what he considered was the difference between the masses and the aristocracy.


Jen from Quebec :0) (muppetbaby99) | 215 comments A few comments earlier, people were mentioning covers and specific copies of books that they like to own- for myself? I LOATHE buying a book with the MOVIE POSTER as its cover! The worst part is that once a book becomes a film, like, The Hobbit, let's say, for a LONG TIME the ONLY copies you can find in stores ARE the horrible movie tie-in editions! Oh, how I LOATHE movie tie-in editions! *rant over* Sorry 'bout that. Whew- I feel better. -Jen from Quebec :0)
(PS) My Kindle cover of THIS book looks like an erotic book of porn


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Pink | 6556 comments Yes I can only imagine what covers the book would be marketed with today. I suppose they'd push the sex angle, although the book is about much more.


Piyumi Pink wrote: "Yes I can only imagine what covers the book would be marketed with today. I suppose they'd push the sex angle, although the book is about much more."

Agree on that last line Pink. The book is about so much much more.


Janet (goodreadscomjanetj) | 852 comments Pink wrote: "Yes I can only imagine what covers the book would be marketed with today. I suppose they'd push the sex angle, although the book is about much more."

I suppose it is easier and more lucrative to push the sex angle than to show the struggles about class structure, working conditions etc.


Melanti | 2386 comments Well, and the sex is tied up in all the anti-industrialization, back-to-nature message too.

I wasn't happy with either cover that I got. One's a generic landscape, the second looks like an erotica cover. Neither really fits.

Jennifer Lynn wrote: "Oh, how I LOATHE movie tie-in editions!..."

Me too! Unfortunately, with Kindle books, they change their covers at will, and you can't prevent getting the awful tie-in covers.


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Myst | 173 comments I don't always think a movie tie-in cover is horrible.

I bought a copy of the Lord of the Rings trilogy that were one giant book with a really pretty image of the nazgul ring leader sitting on his horse in the forest backlit. Since Mr. Nazgul is an important part of the books through all 3 books it's at least not out of place.
The Lord of the Rings (The Lord of the Rings, #1-3) by J.R.R. Tolkien

I think it's so much prettier than The Lord of the Rings (The Lord of the Rings, #1-3) by J.R.R. Tolkien or The Lord of the Rings (The Lord of the Rings, #1-3) by J.R.R. Tolkien or The Lord of the Rings (The Lord of the Rings, #1-3) by J.R.R. Tolkien . It ended up being cheaper than all 3 books separately as well.

But when they've mutilated the book's contents to make the movie, the movie tie-in cover is an insult.


Melanti | 2386 comments The ones that I especially don't like are the ones that show actors.

That one's not terrible, I guess. But it does look really, really modern, and that doesn't match the text, IMO. But, I grew up my whole life with a old mid 1970s boxed set of LotR sitting on the shelf so anything that's not gold with geometrical shapes or old fashioned landscapes looks odd to me.

I grew up with this for the boxed set and covers
gold colored boxed set of Lord of the rings with some geometric shapes The Fellowship of the Ring (The Lord of the Rings, #1) by J.R.R. Tolkien


Janet (goodreadscomjanetj) | 852 comments Just curious to see if the editions of Lady Chatterley's Lover that the rest of you read included Lawrence's essay "A Propos of Lady Chatterley's Lover". Certainly one of the strangest essays that I have ever read.


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