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message 1: by Arch (last edited Oct 25, 2016 07:21AM) (new)

Arch  | 4132 comments Mod
I will ask my question in here again and answer it. Does cursing and/or sex makes a dangerous bad boy sexy? To me, the answer will always be no.

I have read a lot of dangerous bad boy books and a lot of them have the hero cursing. I know that Sam had a favorite curse word and I did not like to see it. I would skip over it. I am glad that he didn't curse on every page or every other page. I don't like it when a hero curse. I've started reading a book last week and couldn't finish it, because the hero cursed too much. I read maybe like 20 pages of the book and couldn't read any more. Of course, I've tired to skip the cursing, but he kept on and I couldn't read the book anymore. Other men in the book would curse too.

Another thing, I don't like about a lot of dangerous bad boy books and that is he is Mr. Sex. He knows everything about a woman's body, he is huge and the hero is the best lover the heroine has ever had. For real? Just because he is the hero, it doesn't mean that he didn't born a virgin. I find in books like these, the heroine is dumb. Her body doesn't know what it feels like to be a woman, unless he shows her. I want to make it clear, I do not read erotic books. I am talking about non-erotic books. I hate when the heroine thinks that the hero is too big for her, but he knows that he can fit. Come on heroine get real! If a baby, which is way bigger than a man's private part can pass through that hole, then surely a man's private part can fit. I don't know why a lot of authors make the heroine dumb, when it comes down to the female body.

I have never came across a book, where the hero was worried about being too small. I don't even know why the hero has to be so big. In reality, men comes in different shape and sizes, just like women do. A big man private part will never equal love. In a lot of these books, it is known that the hero has been with a lot of women. Yet, he never loved any of these women. So what does the size of the hero's private part has to do with how he feels about the heroine? In many cases, lust comes before love in these stories and in some, there is no chemistry and the love is forced.

Shoe sizes doesn't equal man private part sizes.

Maybe it is just me that feels this way about a lot of dangerous bad boy stories.


message 2: by Cindi (new)

Cindi (ourtrumpcard) | 381 comments Amen, Arch! I can handle a little bit of cursing but hate when it gets out of hand and not necessary. I also JUST finished a book where the author made a HUGE (pun intended) deal about his size...it wasn't necessary for the advancement of the story...so I laughed then skipped the love scene all together. Now I have to admit, I have been skipping love scenes for quite a while now, especially in contemporary or PNR, because I'm just kinda tired of them (except in rock star romances:)) so I may not be the right person to comment.


message 3: by [deleted user] (new)

I don't think that cursing and sex makes a bad boy. I think it the things that he does in which he knows is bad and still does them. Now if your looking for a book that doesn't have to much cursing then you should read B.B. Reid's book Fear Me. It's a new adult book. The premise of the book is about two teenagers (don't worry their 18) who are trying to figure out their feelings for each other. Be warned that there are a few sex scenes that are described and there are a few curse words but it's not out of control. Our hero is of course a bad boy. Our heroine is not naive. Well at least I don't think so. If you do read this book I hope you would like it as much as I did. I believe I rated the book 5 out of 5 stars.


message 4: by Arch (new)

Arch  | 4132 comments Mod
Cindi, I don't care for love scenes. I usually skip them. I love good tension, Where you can feel the love between the hero and the heroine. I love writing those kinds of tension as well.

I prefer behind the close door love scenes. I don't like for the private parts to be a character, if you know what I mean.

Thanks for the book recommendation Maxine, but I don't read young adult books.


 Danielle The Book Huntress (Winter Frost Queen)  (gatadelafuente) | 9731 comments Mod
I don't mind a little bit of cursing but I don't like when they take the Lord's name in vain and when the talk is really really raunchy. I agree I don't think that having a large penis necessarily makes you a better hero and it's probably an overused device. Iron Man I like steamy love scenes but I don't like when they get kinky that's a turnoff for me. I don't think every book has to have love scenes but I think they can definitely add to a book when they're doing well and I miss them when they're not there sometimes.


 Danielle The Book Huntress (Winter Frost Queen)  (gatadelafuente) | 9731 comments Mod
I need to edit my comment when I am using my laptop. Don't know where Iron Man came from! lol.


message 7: by Willow (new)

Willow Madison | 31 comments I'm a thumbs-up for cursing -- when it's appropriate to the character. A CEO/kazillionaire or doctor doesn't need to drop a curse in every other line, but a member of a rock group or MC might for authenticity sake. I do think it can be over-used as a character crutch though. Cursing (or any language nuance) is just one flavor to what makes the overall character-soup.

As to size mattering haha...I don't necessarily care one way or another. Again, it's more about the appropriateness of the storyline and characters. I don't want to read about his massive junk on every page, but I do think a little stop-n-awe at the first sighting of a truly ginormous specimen might be in order ;)

What you said about the heroine being unknowledgeable about her own body resonates with me though. I do see this as being over-used. I mean - sure, address the fact that a girlie might need to be prepared/enticed for something larger than the average bear...but the 'it won't fit' -- Isn't that something old pornos had the dumb blonde saying in an air-inflated voice??


message 8: by Arch (new)

Arch  | 4132 comments Mod
Danielle The Book Huntress (Self-Proclaimed Book Ninja) wrote: "I need to edit my comment when I am using my laptop. Don't know where Iron Man came from! lol."

Lol! I was wondering where Iron Man was. : )


message 9: by Arch (new)

Arch  | 4132 comments Mod
I like my dangerous bad boys to me sassy, a good mean to the heroine and love the heroine with his heart! Talk about Tension! Tension! Tension!


message 10: by Peridot_Lyoness (new)

Peridot_Lyoness | 26 comments I don't mind the cursing too much if it is appropriate- it has to fit the character. Like in real life, sometimes a saucy word is used to drive home a point, sometimes a heartfelt curse is the only appropriate response to something. Overly used, gratuitous? No.
Re: size description- again, if it's adding something to the character, if it makes us understand something about him, otherwise, why?


message 11: by Sandra (new)

Sandra (sandyy1603) | 12 comments The size thing has just become a big mental eye roll for me. There are so many series where all the guy have a huge *thing*, umm really how realistic is that, say for instance it's a military unit, yeah they would have had to have *thing* size as a criteria for joining for them ALL to have a huge one.
I tend to also do a mental eye roll also when the guy is so happy how *tight* the lady is, I'm there thinking "wait 'till she's popped a baby out of there honey".
One thing that really grates on me is when the female character doesn't feel like everything is right until he has lost control and get a little rough in the bedroom, nup not really a sign of a keeper to me sweetheart.
Cursing doesn't bother me too much but it does often make me do more eye rolling to the point where books that have ALL of this stuff give me an mental eye rolling headache.


message 12: by Caroline (new)

Caroline (carolineadair) | 19 comments The size thing works for me. I can't get all hot bothered by a small one. If you're going, go big! Also, a guy ruminating on how loose a girl is would be a turn off too.

Cursing? A few well placed curse words is awesome.


message 13: by A. (new)

A. Hall (tenover10) | 2 comments Caroline wrote: "The size thing works for me. I can't get all hot bothered by a small one. If you're going, go big! Also, a guy ruminating on how loose a girl is would be a turn off too.

Cursing? A few well placed..."


Agreed about size. I don't go in for "hyper realism" or equal dong size representation in my romance fiction. I go for idealized fantasy. I'm not reading fiction to make anyone else feel better; I'm reading to be entertained. And a small pecker is not exciting, it's not alluring, it's not tempting. It's, as the size of such a piece would be described: average. Ooooh! Steamy! Size I can find in real life and common dimensions? Sign me up for that brand of mediocre escapism! *rolls eyes* Thank you, but no.

I don't generally read fiction that has erotica or smut and nothing else compelling about the characters, so, in the end, the depth of description in the dirty parts are gravy to the meat and potatoes of what I'm really after. But since I've never encountered male characters who have been described as puny, moderate, or unremarkable in the package department, I think I'd be struck by it and it would definitely reduce his attractiveness. Especially if he was this big bad alpha male, totally badass, yet was described as average sized or small in any way. It'd come across as insincere, like he was compensating for his....shortcomings, or that he had something to prove. A guy who literally has the dick to throw around can back up how badass he is. It doesn't "make" him a badass but I would lose a lot of respect for a bad boy hero who was described as lacking a supreme example of maleness.

As for cursing, to punctuate a point or as an expression of emotion is fine. I don't think I'd ever put a book down for cursing alone though. It would truly have to be to the point where half of what they're saying is obscured by curses for me to quit. But if that's the case, then there are likely other things wrong with the book that would make me reject it.


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