Guardians of the Galaxy 2

[Walter]

Sneak peek trailer:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2WhQcK-...

So far so good. :)

[Trike]

Get in my eyeholes!

[J]

Amazing. Short but absolutely stunning.

So glad to see the team additions.

[Sifou]

i think this is how u should make a teaser trailer they made us remember the first movie instantly with the song and they showed some impressive scenes and some marvel flavor with drax's joke and guess what ! no spoilers for the plot of the movie.

[Trike]

Completely agree.

[Joel]

Because movie trailers end up revealing so much, I usually only watch one trailer if it is a movie I am really excited about.

In regards to books, when it is a series, I only read the blurb of the first book to avoid knowing anything about future installments.

[Jessica]

So much waiting for the awesome! Really excited for this one, and that trailer was well made.

[Walter]

Second trailer. Another Marvel character makes her first cinematic appearance. :)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dW1BIid...

[Trike]

O.M.G!

[Tassie Dave, S&L Historian]

Walter wrote: "Second trailer. Another Marvel character makes her first cinematic appearance. :)"

OK for those of us who have hardly read a Marvel comic in the last 40+ years and had never heard of GotG before the movie. Who is she?

I am assuming you mean the girl reading the Pratt's mind (pun intended) ;-)

[Walter]

Tassie Dave wrote: "Walter wrote: "Second trailer. Another Marvel character makes her first cinematic appearance. :)"

OK for those of us who have hardly read a Marvel comic in the last 40+ years and had never heard o..."

Unless I'm mistaken, the girl with the antennae is Mantis. She was created during Marvel's martial arts era, the one that also produced Iron Fist and Shang Chi. She was one of the Avengers, once upon a time.

[Tassie Dave, S&L Historian]

Ok thanks. She has an interesting back story.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mantis_...

I missed that whole era of comics. It is too complex (and expensive) to go back and read them all now.

[Walter]

Tassie Dave wrote: "Ok thanks. She has an interesting back story.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mantis_...

I missed that whole era of comics. It is too complex (and expensive) to go back and read them all..."

Back in the day (late 70's, early 80's) I used to go to a local place in town called the Smoke Shop (sold beer and magazines, had pool tables), where they had a wall of comic books, and spend the better part of my weekly paycheck on that month's issues. Mostly Marvel, but a few DC titles.

[John (Taloni)]

That was a pretty decent Mantis. Minor character, being given a fair shake in GotG. Heck, the only reason I'd recognized Gamora and Drax was my love of the original Warlock storyline. (I read the other Warlock stories but didn't particularly love them.)

They are really digging into the bottom of the barrel here but it seems to be working. Heck, Dr. Strange hasn't had a regular comic for 25 years and they turned that into a blockbuster.

[Walter]

Oh btw Tassie, a lot of the older comics are available via a subscription to Marvel Online. Just check out marvel.com.

[Trike]

I wonder if Bug will show up?

[John (Taloni)]

^ I guess I'm confused because Bug *tik* was a Micronaut.

[J]

I just looked up the character. First paragraph at Wikipedia says he was first a micronaut and later a guardian.

[Phil]

I wonder if they're going to do anything with Mantis' "celestial Madonna" aspect. Maybe they'll make her into Adam Warlock's mother or something.

[Trike]

Yeah, Bug was created by Marvel to go with the Micronauts, which was a toy line (I'm guessing because "tiny people" = insects, nevermind the scale is thousands of orders of magnitudes different), so when the license for the Micronauts went away they still had the rights to the secondary characters. And back then the Micronauts Princess looked a lot like Gamora, so someone probably conflated the two and moved Bug over to GotG.

I had the Acroyear and Baron Karza toys. Acroyear was boring but Karza was cleverly designed: all of his joints were magnets, so you could mix and match body parts. He had a horse (sold separately) which I didn't have, but it also has magnetic limbs for further limb swapping. I recall he had a belly missile and his fists could shoot, too. This was back in the day when we let kids play with tiny plastic parts. Apparently they just figured the smart ones wouldn't try to swallow the pieces.

My mom has let dozens (literally) of my young cousins play with my old toys over the decades, so Karza has gone missing except for a fist, and Acroyear is mostly intact except for the attachments.

I found out later that Karza was basically the exact same toy as Steel Jeeg, an anime robot, just painted black. There was also a white version called Force Commander. Karza was pretty clearly Darth Vader while Force Commander was a Stormtrooper. I hope whoever designed the original Jeeg got money for those iterations, but since it was 1970s Japan, probably not.

[Michele]

I want a Baby Groot.So.Bad.GIMMEE!!!!!

[Walter]

Newest trailer:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zkRHSe3...

[Trike]

None of this Empire Strikes Back bullroar, it's right in the trailer:

"I'm your dad, Peter."

https://youtu.be/duGqrYw4usE

[Walter]

Trike wrote: "None of this Empire Strikes Back bullroar, it's right in the trailer:

"I'm your dad, Peter."

https://youtu.be/duGqrYw4usE"

Nice!

[Darren]

Trike wrote: "I found out later that Karza was basically the exact same toy as Steel Jeeg, an anime robot, just painted black. There was also a white version called Force Commander. Karza was pretty clearly Darth Vader while Force Commander was a Stormtrooper. I hope whoever designed the original Jeeg got money for those iterations, but since it was 1970s Japan, probably not.."

My older brother had Force Commander. I remember even him being improvised into a lot of makeshift Star Wars games...

[Joseph]

Darren wrote: "Trike wrote: "I found out later that Karza was basically the exact same toy as Steel Jeeg, an anime robot, just painted black. There was also a white version called Force Commander. Karza was prett..."

I still have all of my old Micronauts comics -- in fact, I went back a few years ago and filled in the gaps in the series. The first dozen or so issues are a pretty solid Star Wars wannabe science fantasy/sword & planet story.

[Silvana]

I found the humour in this movie pretty annoying at times. Well the first movie was not too funny either but it was not annoying.

(view spoiler)[
They killed one of my two fave characters from the first movie so now I only have Nebula to watch and the OST to listen to. (hide spoiler)]

[Rick]

Silvana? SPOILERS. Don't do them.

[John (Taloni)]

Just saw this. Quite a romp. My daughter loved it.

[Darren]

Rick wrote: "Silvana? SPOILERS. Don't do them."

Or don't read threads about movies that are out and you don't want spoiled, alternately.

[Rick]

...It's release weekend. Err on the side of being nice about spoilers, not being a pedantic dick about precisely what constitutes a spoiler.

[John (Taloni)]

Yeah, most discussion boards I've been on have a "no spoiler" policy for opening weekend. After that, depends on the board. Most are okay with it after that.

But FWIW it's really not hard to hide spoilers.

(view spoiler)[ Put the spoiler tags in brackets. Like < spoiler >this < / spoiler > with the spaces removed (hide spoiler)]

[Darren]

http://www.bostonglobe.com/ideas/2012...

[Silvana]

That's a spoiler? Edited just to be safe, apologies.

[John (Taloni)]

On the subject of the golden race:

(view spoiler)[It's kind of funny that they created an entire race just to give a reason for Warlock to be golden. The origin retcons seem really silly. Drax doesn't need to be an alien either. Mantis is a human. And who knows where they're going with Gamora. (hide spoiler)]

[Phil]

John (Taloni) wrote: "On the subject of the golden race:

[spoilers removed]"

(view spoiler)[ Yeah, I agree with you that it seems kind of pointless mess with things like that. I also don't like what they've done with original team members either. I would have preferred them to be left out rather than altered so much and put in as a wink to the old fans. (hide spoiler)]

[Allison]

I saw it last night and as I am a Marvel Studios fan rather than an original comics fan, I liked it. Spoiler tags around impressions in case you're like me and try to avoid all hype:

(view spoiler)[I laughed, I demanded a Groot, I cried, and I got my hair blown back a couple times with the cool fights...definitely a fun romp. And man, what a shitty day for Peter! (hide spoiler)]

Turn off brain, insert popcorn!

[Stephen]

(view spoiler)[I am going today in the afternoon which befits my Old Man Status (hide spoiler)]

[Eric]

Saw it last night and it was ok I guess. Like so many sequels it tries to turn everything up a notch and somehow misses the magic that made the first one work.

[Darren]

John (Taloni) wrote: "On the subject of the golden race: blah origin.... retcon... blah"[paraphrased]

How can you be a fan of comics and be bothered by

a) retcons of any stripe?
b) origin retcons SPECIFICALLY?

[John (Taloni)]

^Because I started reading comics when continuity mattered, and it's part of what drew me in. I've always disliked silly retcons.

Also, nyeah on your tone. Nerd shaming helps no one.

[Stephen]

I loved it, it was fun and touching. IMAX 3D the planet looked great.

[Joseph]

I also saw it in IMAX 3D and was mostly pleased, but (like many other 3D action/SF/fantasy movies) they kept turning the 3D separation up too high on long shots -- the opening sequence with a car driving along a road somewhere in the Midwest looked like nothing so much as a Matchbox (or Hot Wheels, if you prefer) car scooting along the floor.

[Darren]

John (Taloni) wrote: "^Because I started reading comics when continuity mattered, and it's part of what drew me in. I've always disliked silly retcons.

Also, nyeah on your tone. Nerd shaming helps no one."

Tone? You're not a nerd if you think there was ever continuity in comics, so not sure how I could be shaming you... Nice try to deflect though. I was asking how you can have read comics presumably for years and not just accepted that retcons are part of the deal. But I guess you want to turn this into a discussion about how you can liberally complain about every artist bringing comics to big or small screens not being pure enough, while at the same time making sure you yourself are never challenged...

[Trike]

I saw it today and loved it. Adding complexity and depth to existing characters and stories is not easy.

I also liked how each individual character arc supported the overall theme. So many disparate stories having common threads was pretty impressive.

(view spoiler)[I'd heard that Kurt Russell was going to play Ego the Living Planet and I wondered how they were going to reconcile that with him being Peter's dad, not to mention his comic book origins. I liked how they handled that, too. And to top it off they managed to link it to a classic song for giggles.

I'm an old school Marvel guy, so I was actively reading these characters when they were being created and/or got their own books. I always liked Starlin's cosmic stuff but I didn't love it. Partially because I wasn't doing the same drugs he was in order to understand it. So while I thought Adam Warlock was a cool character, I didn't particularly care for his OG Human Torch-esque origin melded with Silver Surfer. So I really prefer this new, simplified backstory, which connects him more directly with the Guardians. Similar to how they tied the Vision more closely with Avengers by ignoring all those decades of backstory. (The Vision used to *be* the OG Human Torch, for instance.)

I experienced the same thrill of anticipation during the "I will call him Adam" stinger that I got from Fury showing up at the end of Iron Man and Thanos showing up at the end of Avengers.

I was kind of surprised Stallone had so little to do, but he's clearly being set up for a later film.

I got a chuckle out of the shot where Rocket, Yondu and Baby Groot were walking down the corridor in the same slo-mo the Guardians did in the first one. (hide spoiler)]

[Trike]

John (Taloni) wrote: "^Because I started reading comics when continuity mattered, and it's part of what drew me in. I've always disliked silly retcons. "

(view spoiler)[Except in the case of Adam Warlock, the guy we know from the first Infinity story was already a retcon of an existing character. And as I mentioned in my other comment, the fact that his origin was basically just 1940s Human Torch + Silver Surfer, it wasn't that great of a backstory. I think this streamlined version will suit the MCU better. (hide spoiler)]

[Phil]

You can be a fan of something and still not like an aspect of it. I've read comics on and off for 45 years and have never liked retcons either.
Darren, I hate to make this personal but I've looked over some of your comments of the last month and in 3 or 4 different threads you've belittled, insulted, or gotten into arguments with people. I don't know if it's on purpose but maybe it's time to look at how you're coming across.

[Trike]

Phil wrote: "I don't know if it's on purpose"

Heh.

[John (Nevets)]

Saw it tonight on a $5 Tuesday. I really dug it. So of course I'm going to nit pick it. Worst part was that new Marvel Studios tag at the beginning, I much preferred the old comic book flipping one. I do think that some of the humor was a little forced and heavy handed. IIRC in the first movie it was used after tension was built up, and needed a release, or in low key moments. In this one it seemed to be used on a 3 minute clock, no matter if the scene called for it or not. I do think they missed a bit of an opportunity with Groot (view spoiler)[ On the bomb after he placed it the instant detenate button was cracked, I thought it would have been funny for Groot to try hitting it a few times with it doing nothing, and then hit the correct one. (hide spoiler)]

[Joel]

I just saw it, and I thought it was fantastic. I loved the direction that they took the story. The fact that it was about the relationships of the characters and the recurring theme of family. The humor was again perfect, and the actions scenes were fun as well. Guardians is definitely up there with my top favorites for the Marvel movies, and I'm glad that James Gunn will be doing the third film.