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Oct 17, 2016 09:02PM

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Is it in our biology to tell our stories of failure and mistake? I am a huge proponent of talk therapy, and know that wonderful joyful feeling of having a weight lifted off during a therapy session. When I’m in a safe space, I do feel lots better when I can talk about my fears and failures. But does that mean it’s part of my cellular make-up to want to confess easily and effortlessly?
Often I don’t feel safe and would prefer to hide my vulnerabilities. It doesn’t feel like self-care to open up myself up to judgment and criticism. Isn’t that need for protecting ourselves emotionally part of our humanness, too? I’m grateful to have people in my life who provide a safe place when I need to talk. But in my humble opinion, there are a lot of folks who can’t find that safe harbor.
Kristin wrote: "First, Jen, thanks so much for your willingness to go in the arena with this on-line book club. You are definitely a badass in my eyes!
Is it in our biology to tell our stories of failure and mist..."
I think you hit the nail on the head when you said it feels like self-care to NOT open yourself to judgment and criticism.
Or, maybe more like self-preservation. Where we will do anything to avoid potential pain or discomfort. If we hide our truths, shame or vulnerabilities, we protect ourselves.
But why do we care so much about what other people think of us? I cared a lot about that for many, many years. People pleaser to the MAX. But I do feel with age, especially since turning 40, I am being more and more open in sharing my struggles.
Because there really is nothing that makes me feel more connected to another person than when hearing someone share theirs - I truly feel the spiritual interconnectedness like she talked about during these times.
If we all let our guard down, and shared more openly, how would that change our relationships? A lot I believe.
Is it in our biology to tell our stories of failure and mist..."
I think you hit the nail on the head when you said it feels like self-care to NOT open yourself to judgment and criticism.
Or, maybe more like self-preservation. Where we will do anything to avoid potential pain or discomfort. If we hide our truths, shame or vulnerabilities, we protect ourselves.
But why do we care so much about what other people think of us? I cared a lot about that for many, many years. People pleaser to the MAX. But I do feel with age, especially since turning 40, I am being more and more open in sharing my struggles.
Because there really is nothing that makes me feel more connected to another person than when hearing someone share theirs - I truly feel the spiritual interconnectedness like she talked about during these times.
If we all let our guard down, and shared more openly, how would that change our relationships? A lot I believe.

One of the things that pushes all my buttons is receiving unsolicited advice. Maybe I don’t tell my story because I don’t want to hear someone (especially a loved one) tell me what I should do. And maybe that’s an area where I need to practice to courage. You think?
Is this just a matter of skillful communications? How does this come in to play with parenting? How do you teach your kids what and how to share – especially their vulnerabilities?

On page 4 Brown explains that "vulnerability is not weakness; it is our greatest measure of courage." I think we need to actually believe this, and then pass that belief on to our children.
I am not sure if our generation was really taught that there is courage in vulnerability. So, it is our duty to model vulnerable behavior for our kids.
In the intro, Brown gave an example of a parent saying aloud:
"Our family is really hurting right now. We could really use your support."
I think kids need to HEAR us saying things like that.
This is really something I can work on.
I am practicing vulnerability in my private life, but I am not sure I display vulnerability in front of my children enough.
It's a fine line I think. Kids need to be able to count on their parents. They need their parents to be consistent, steadfast, and emotionally grounded.
But it is important to be human too!
Angie wrote: "Kristin, I like your question about kids and how to teach them to be vulnerable.
On page 4 Brown explains that "vulnerability is not weakness; it is our greatest measure of courage." I think we nee..."
Angie, just had a huge aha moment right now. I am the same. Working on my personal vulnerability but not completely convinced I am modeling that to my kids. AS a mom we want to feel that we ALWAYS have things handled. But that is not always the case as we know. Thanks for that, made me really think...
On page 4 Brown explains that "vulnerability is not weakness; it is our greatest measure of courage." I think we nee..."
Angie, just had a huge aha moment right now. I am the same. Working on my personal vulnerability but not completely convinced I am modeling that to my kids. AS a mom we want to feel that we ALWAYS have things handled. But that is not always the case as we know. Thanks for that, made me really think...



Christie wrote: "Hi ladies, I'm a bit late to the dialogue but loving this topic and wanted to jump in. I agree that it's so important for us to model vulnerability for our kids. It feels like such a fine line most..."
Open communication is key, I so agree Christie. And I think one way we can encourage our kids to be vulnerable and share their feelings with us, is to work on listening without judgement or any immediate advice. Like Kristin said above, one reason she sometimes doesn't open up is for fear of unsolicited advice. That resonated with me, and I am sure that keeps kids from sharing things with their parents sometimes. Not wanting to hear advice, or "You should..." or immediate fixes.
I think it's good practice to know as a parent when to just listen, and when to step in. Thanks for the thoughtful comment.
Open communication is key, I so agree Christie. And I think one way we can encourage our kids to be vulnerable and share their feelings with us, is to work on listening without judgement or any immediate advice. Like Kristin said above, one reason she sometimes doesn't open up is for fear of unsolicited advice. That resonated with me, and I am sure that keeps kids from sharing things with their parents sometimes. Not wanting to hear advice, or "You should..." or immediate fixes.
I think it's good practice to know as a parent when to just listen, and when to step in. Thanks for the thoughtful comment.
Christie wrote: "Taite- this is something my mother didn't do with me either. She was afraid to be vulnerable, which made me afraid to be vulnerable and so now I am really committed to having that open communicatio..."
Oh my gosh, you guys, same here! My mom was never vulnerable in front of us. She was always strong, always positive. I loved this about her, because we had an idyllic upbringing, my mom was ALWAYS happy!
And by no means so I want to be criticizing her for that, because we were the number one in her life, and she wanted to protect us and make our lives the best ever. And she did!
But everything being OK and everything always being positive isn't real life. I remember having a lot of issues when I became a mother myself, because I didn't feel very positive a lot of the times! It's HARD, but my mom modeled this perfect version of motherhood. I remember thinking, my mom never struggled, my mom never yelled at us, my mom never...
So I am doing things a bit differently with my girls, and if I am feeling sad, or mad, or disappointed, or irritable, I am telling them and telling them why. I have had a lot of chances to show my emotions to them since my mom passed. I feel like it is important to show them I experience negative emotions like everyone does. It's how we work through them that matters.
Oh my gosh, you guys, same here! My mom was never vulnerable in front of us. She was always strong, always positive. I loved this about her, because we had an idyllic upbringing, my mom was ALWAYS happy!
And by no means so I want to be criticizing her for that, because we were the number one in her life, and she wanted to protect us and make our lives the best ever. And she did!
But everything being OK and everything always being positive isn't real life. I remember having a lot of issues when I became a mother myself, because I didn't feel very positive a lot of the times! It's HARD, but my mom modeled this perfect version of motherhood. I remember thinking, my mom never struggled, my mom never yelled at us, my mom never...
So I am doing things a bit differently with my girls, and if I am feeling sad, or mad, or disappointed, or irritable, I am telling them and telling them why. I have had a lot of chances to show my emotions to them since my mom passed. I feel like it is important to show them I experience negative emotions like everyone does. It's how we work through them that matters.