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Lance (sportsbookguy) | 12711 comments Mod
This thread is for any suggestions for general non-fiction books for discussion in December 2016. Previous suggestions that were not in a previous poll are fine.


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Brina | 8169 comments Mod
Bushville Wins by John Klima


message 3: by Lance (new)

Lance (sportsbookguy) | 12711 comments Mod
One that I am currently reading...if selected it will be well worth a replay.

The Selling of the Babe: The Deal That Changed Baseball and Created a Legend by Glenn Stout


message 4: by Brina (last edited Oct 06, 2016 05:40AM) (new)

Brina | 8169 comments Mod
There's a new book out about Cal, Lou, and the streak but I forgot the exact title.


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Brina | 8169 comments Mod
Cardboard G-ds: An All-American Tail Told Through Baseball Cards.


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Mike (mike9) | 6338 comments Cardboard Gods is a great book. I read it a few years ago and loved it.


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Lance (sportsbookguy) | 12711 comments Mod
Brina wrote: "There's a new book out about Cal, Lou, and the streak but I forgot the exact title."

The Streak: Lou Gehrig, Cal Ripken, and Baseball's Most Historic Record. It will be published July 2017


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Brina | 8169 comments Mod
I looked up the streak. I guess we can read it next summer when it comes out.


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Brina | 8169 comments Mod
Mike-- my son is obsessed with baseball cards and I still have mine. I would have never considered it but someone in another group I'm in marked it as currently reading. Sounds like something I will like.


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Brina wrote: "Mike-- my son is obsessed with baseball cards and I still have mine. I would have never considered it but someone in another group I'm in marked it as currently reading. Sounds like something I wil..."

Brina, I don't know how old your kids are or how "open" you are with them about certain R-rated subjects, and I have not completely read Cardboard Gods completely, but I think you need to research that book a little more before you consider allowing your kids to read it.

I believe the author is very talented, but his writing is definitely for adults; adult themes, alot of F-bombs and adult situations. He writes extensively about his parents who had an open relationship in the '60s in which basically his mom ran around with a bunch of other men while his father stayed at home. Might be hard to answer questions from inquiring little minds.

I believe a much, much better baseball card book is the classic, early-70s book: The Great American Trading and Flipping Baseball Card book, or something like that.


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Jim Kaplan | 15 comments Department of Shameless Self-Promotion: "CLEARING THE BASES: A Veteran Sportswriter on the National Pastime" by Jim Kaplan (www.levellerspress.com). My 14th baseball book, this potpourri of essays, articles and profiles draws on my 16 years at Sports Illustrated and 30 years of freelance writing.


message 12: by Brina (new)

Brina | 8169 comments Mod
FYI- for our Cubs book, Wrigleyville is more of an overview book. The rest of you will find it interesting maybe but for me it's bedtime stories I've heard my whole life. There's another book that sounds interesting- The Last Cubs Dynasty Before the Curse by Hal Bock. I'm supposed to pick the book but I'm leaving it up to you to choose between the 2.


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I have a suggestion for an upcoming read: Joe DiMaggio: The Hero's Life, by Richard Ben Cramer.

One of the best baseball biographies in my opinion.


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Harold Kasselman | 17753 comments I read it several years ago, but it was great. If you ever want to debunk a hero, let Ben Cramer write a bio.


message 15: by Lance (new)

Lance (sportsbookguy) | 12711 comments Mod
Jeff Pearlman, whose work I enjoy, does that as well. He did that to Roger Clemens pre - PEDs and also to Walter Payton. No one in the NFL brass ever read his book Sweetness: The Enigmatic Life of Walter Payton or else they would have named their Man Of The Year award after someone else


message 16: by Lance (new)

Lance (sportsbookguy) | 12711 comments Mod
Another book suggestion that was given to me for March was The Best Team Money Can Buy. I'd like to do this one as I read it before and liked. I think Harold read it as well


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Harold Kasselman | 17753 comments Lance wrote: "Jeff Pearlman, whose work I enjoy, does that as well. He did that to Roger Clemens pre - PEDs and also to Walter Payton. No one in the NFL brass ever read his book [book:Sweetness: The Enigmatic Li..." Gee that really surprises me about Payton. I never heard any negative adjectives about him. As for the Clemons book, I read that years ago too and he made a very convincing case of a narcissistic cheater
https://www.amazon.com/Rocket-That-Fe...


message 18: by [deleted user] (last edited Feb 11, 2017 06:50AM) (new)

Harold wrote: "I read it several years ago, but it was great. If you ever want to debunk a hero, let Ben Cramer write a bio."

Cramer lets us know on the first page that Joe and his people refused to cooperate--so you know it's time to buckle up, it's going to get nasty.

I found it very interesting that Sandy Koufax cooperated and even met with Jane Leavy for her book and she spared the gory details of his failed marraiges--basically she covered all of them with one short inclusive sentence saying something like they weren't interesting. Whereas Joe didn't cooperate, Cramer devotes more than a hundred pages on his failings as a husband and father (of course, one of his brides WAS a bit interesting).

The take home message is if you're ever asked to cooperate on your own biography you should accept so you can butter up the author so you won't get reamed.


message 19: by Harold (last edited Feb 11, 2017 07:42AM) (new)

Harold Kasselman | 17753 comments Doug wrote: "Harold wrote: "I read it several years ago, but it was great. If you ever want to debunk a hero, let Ben Cramer write a bio."

Cramer lets us know on the first page that Joe and his people refused ..."
So true and yet so enigmatic why the celebs won't cooperate. Example the hatchet job by Kitty Kelly of Frank Sinatra.
PS> Next time when you do a bio of a player, let him know "this can go two ways sweetheart. the easy way or the hard way"


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