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message 1: by Trevor (new)

Trevor (mookse) | 1859 comments Mod
Below, please rank the books on the longlist and, when it is announced, shortlist. When you read another book, simply edit your old post and avoid posting again. I'd like to keep this thread simple, so please only post rankings. Please discuss the books in the appropriate threads. If you want to talk to someone about their rankings, I think you can also do that in the appropriate book-specific or longlist/shortlist thread.

We will be tallying these up periodically throughout the process so we can monitor the forum favorites.


message 2: by Trevor (last edited Sep 07, 2016 11:39AM) (new)

Trevor (mookse) | 1859 comments Mod
Here's my reservation post!

1. Hot Milk
2. The Many
3. My Name Is Lucy Barton
4. Do Not Say We Have Nothing
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message 3: by Ang (last edited Oct 06, 2016 12:06AM) (new)

Ang | 1685 comments Fun fun!

1. My Name Is Lucy Barton - Elizabeth Strout
2. Hot Milk - Deborah Levy
3. Work Like Any Other - Virginia Reeves *
4. Serious Sweet - AL Kennedy
5. The Sellout - Paul Beatty
6. The Schooldays of Jesus - JM Coetzee *
7. All That Man Is - David Szalay
8. The Many - Wyl Menmuir
9. His Bloody Project - Graeme Macrae Burton
10. Eileen - Ottessa Moshfegh *
11. Do Not Say We Have Nothing - Madeleine Thien
12. The North Water - Ian McGuire
13. Hystopia - David Means **

* read (or ** abandoned) after shortlist announcement


message 4: by Ethan (last edited Nov 25, 2016 02:49PM) (new)

Ethan Devitius | 11 comments My Longlist Rankings:

1) His Bloody Project (Burnet)*
2) The North Water (McGuire)*
3) Work Like Any Other (Reeves)
4) All That Man Is (Szalay)
5) My Name is Lucy Barton (Strout)*
6) The Schooldays of Jesus (Coetzee)
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7) Hot Milk (Levy)*
8) The Sellout (Beatty)
9) The Many (Menmuir)*
10) Hystopia (Means)
11) Eileen (Moshfegh)
12) DNF - Do Not Say We Have Nothing (Thien)
13) DNF - Serious Sweet (Kennedy)*

* Tipped for shortlist


message 5: by Lascosas (last edited Aug 21, 2016 07:03AM) (new)

Lascosas | 456 comments As always, I'm in.

1. A.L. Kennedy: Serious Sweet
2. Wyl Menmuir: The Many
3. Ian McGuire: The North Water
4. Deborah Levy: Hot Milk
5. Paul Beatty: The Sellout
6. Graeme Macrae Burnet: His Bloody Project
7. David Szalay: All That Man Is
8. J.M. Coetzee: The Schooldays of Jesus
9. Ottessa Moshfegh: Eileen
10. Virginia Reeves: Work Like Any Other
11. Elizabeth Strout: My Name Is Lucy Barton
12. David Means: Hystopia
13. Madeleine Thien: Do Not Say We Have Nothing


message 6: by Carl (new)

Carl (catamite) | 137 comments I'm in! (Unless the list is rotten).

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message 7: by MisterHobgoblin (last edited Sep 11, 2016 01:40PM) (new)

MisterHobgoblin .
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1 Serious Sweet
2 The Sellout
3 His Bloody Project
4 The Many
5 The North Water
6 All That Man Is
7 Work Like Any Other
8 Hystopia
9 Eileen
10 Hot Milk
11 The Schooldays of Jesus
12 My Name is Lucy Barton
13 Do Not Say We Have Nothing


message 8: by Joe (last edited Sep 12, 2016 02:51PM) (new)

Joe (paddyjoe) | 76 comments Longlist ranking
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1. My Name Is Lucy Barton
2. His Bloody Project
3. All That Man Is
4. Hot Milk
5. The Many
6. The North Water
7. Eileen
8. Work Like Any Other
9. The Sellout
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message 9: by Doug (last edited Sep 11, 2016 10:07PM) (new)

Doug With barely a day to spare, I actually finished them all - and this is how I'd rank them. The asterisked ones are what I THINK will get the bump onto the short list - basically similar to the current Ladbrokes ranking, except am giving the nod to Thien in lieu of Coetzee. I must say, of the four years I've been doing this, this is by FAR the poorest selection of nominees - but still glad I read them!

*1. Hot Milk 5 *s
*2. Do Not Say We Have Nothing 5*s
*3. My Name is Lucy Barton 4*s
*4. His Bloody Project 4*s
5. Work Like Any Other 4*s
6. The Many 3*s
7. All That Man Is 3*s
8. The Schooldays of Jesus 3*s
*9. The North Water 3*s
10. Eileen 2*s
*11. The Sellout 2*s
12, Serious Sweet 1*
13. Hystopia 1*


message 10: by Louise (last edited Sep 11, 2016 02:45PM) (new)

Louise | 224 comments Longlist:

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3) Eileen
4) His Bloody Project
5) All That Man Is
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7) My Name is Lucy Barton
8) The North Water
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message 11: by Ann Helen (last edited Aug 14, 2016 06:58AM) (new)

Ann Helen (bergenslabb) | 41 comments My ranking

1) His Bloody Project
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3) The Many
4) The North Water
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7) The Sellout
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11) My Name is Lucy Barton
12) Eileen
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message 12: by Darryl (last edited Aug 22, 2016 09:18PM) (new)


message 13: by James (last edited Aug 30, 2016 04:33PM) (new)

James Pomar | 92 comments _
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1)Hot Milk
2)Eileen
3)Serious Sweet
4)The Sellout
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7)My Name is Lucy Barton
8)The Many
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message 14: by Antonomasia (last edited Sep 01, 2016 01:37PM) (new)

Antonomasia | 2629 comments .
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6) The North Water
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7= The Many
7= All That Man Is
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message 15: by Dan (last edited Sep 07, 2016 05:51PM) (new)

Dan 1) Do Not Say We Have Nothing
2) All That Man Is
3) Hot Milk
4) His Bloody Project
5) My Name Is Lucy Barton
6) Work Like Any Other
7) The Many
8) The North Water
9) The Sellout
10) The Schooldays of Jesus
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12) Eileen
13) Hystopia


message 16: by Matthias (last edited Aug 31, 2016 06:30AM) (new)

Matthias | 52 comments 1. The Schooldays of Jesus
2. Hot Milk
3. The Many
4. The Sellout
5. All That Man Is
6. My Name Is Lucy Barton
7. His Bloody Project
8. The North Water
9. Eileen
10. Work Like Any Other
11. Do Not Say We Have Nothing
12. Hystopia
13. Serious Sweet


message 17: by Lee (last edited Sep 01, 2016 06:05AM) (new)

Lee 1. Serious Sweet
2. His Bloody Project
3. Hot Milk
4. The Schooldays of Jesus
5. Hystopia
6. Eileen
7. All That Man Is
8. The Sellout
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13. Do Not Say We Have Nothing


message 18: by Amanda (last edited Aug 08, 2016 07:26AM) (new)

Amanda (tnbooklover) | 99 comments Longlist:


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2)Hot Milk
3) Eileen
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6) My Name Is Lucy Barton
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11) The Sellout
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message 19: by Viv (last edited Sep 16, 2016 12:20PM) (new)

Viv JM | 37 comments I'm not sure if I'll get to all of the longlisted, but I'll read as many as I can!

Longlist:


1) Hot Milk 5*
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5) Work Like Any Other 4*
6) Eileen 4*
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7) The North Water 3.5*
8) His Bloody Project 3*
10) The Many 3*
11) The Sellout 2.5*
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message 20: by Billy (last edited Aug 06, 2016 07:28AM) (new)

Billy  | 15 comments I doubt I'll get through the longlist before they trim it but we'll see how many I can plug away.

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message 21: by peg (last edited Aug 15, 2016 04:23PM) (new)

peg | 151 comments 1
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5 North Water
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7 Serious Sweet
8 Hystopia
9 Hot Milk
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11Work Like any Other
12 eileen
13Do Not Say we have Nothing


message 22: by Ang (last edited Aug 09, 2016 01:07PM) (new)

Ang | 1685 comments Just ranking by average at the moment gives the following (no Coetzee readers yet). I need to figure out how to copy a table of information and make it readable.

author average
1. Macrae Burnet 3.00 (5 readers)
2. Menmuir 3.38 (8 readers)
3. Levy 3.80 (10 readers)
4. Szalay 5.00 (3 readers)
5. McQuire 5.17 (6 readers)
6. Strout 5.64 (11 readers)
7. Beatty 5.80 (10 readers)
8. Kennedy 7.00 (1 reader)
9. Moshfegh 7.13 (8 readers)
10. Reeves 7.20 (5 readers)
11. Means 8.60 (5 readers)
12. Thien 12.00 (1 reader)
Coetzee -- (0 readers)


message 23: by Sara G (last edited Sep 12, 2016 06:58PM) (new)

Sara G | 166 comments 1. The Sellout
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6. Eileen
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message 24: by David (new)

David (goodreadscombooksniffer) | 27 comments 1. My Name is Lucy Barton
2. All That Man Is
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message 25: by Radz (new)

Radz Pandit | 1 comments My rankings:

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message 26: by John (last edited Sep 05, 2016 12:44PM) (new)

John Goddard | 43 comments OK. Time to join in...

1. The Sellout
2. Do Not Say We Have Nothing
3. His Bloody Project
4. The Schooldays of Jesus
5. Hot Milk
6. The Many
7. My name is Lucy Barton
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10. The North Water
11. All that man is
12. Eileen
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message 27: by Roland (new)

Roland Freisitzer (rolandf) | 68 comments With 5 read now, I'll join in too...

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4. The Many
5. Hot Milk
6. My Name is Lucy Barton
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11. Eileen
12. Do Not Say We Have Nothing
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message 28: by Jibran (last edited Aug 29, 2016 03:15PM) (new)

Jibran (marbles5) | 289 comments 1)
2) His Bloody Project
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5) All That Man Is
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7) The Many
8) The Sellout
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12) Hot Milk
13) My Name is Lucy Barton


message 29: by Will (last edited Sep 14, 2016 10:11AM) (new)

Will Longlist Ranking:

1. My Name Is Lucy Barton
2. The Sellout
3. Hot Milk
4. All That Man Is
5. The North Water
6. The Schooldays of Jesus
7. His Bloody Project
8. Work Like Any Other
9. Eileen
10. Serious Sweet
11. Do Not Say We Have Nothing
12. Hystopia
13. The Many


message 30: by Paul (last edited Sep 21, 2016 01:26PM) (new)

Paul Fulcher (fulcherkim) | 10281 comments Longlist ranking:

1. Hot Milk
2. Do Not Say We Have Nothing
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5. All That Man Is
6. The Many
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9. His Bloody Project
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13. The Sellout


message 31: by Amanda (last edited Sep 11, 2016 06:03PM) (new)

Amanda (north_by_northwest) | 14 comments 1. My Name is Lucy Barton
2. The Sellout
3. The North Water
4. All That Man Is
5. Eileen
6. Work Like Any Other
7. Hystopia
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message 32: by Neil (last edited Aug 26, 2016 02:21PM) (new)

Neil | 2053 comments Finished them all now! Here's my personal ranking with my predicted judges shortlist asterisked:

1. Hot Milk
2. Do Not Say We Have Nothing *
3. My Name is Lucy Barton *
4. His Bloody Project
5. The Sellout *
6. All That Man Is *
7. Work Like Any Other
8. Eileen
9. The Many
10. The Schooldays of Jesus *
11. The North Water *
12. Serious Sweet
13. Hystopia


message 33: by Ang (last edited Aug 22, 2016 12:09PM) (new)

Ang | 1685 comments This is the most people ever ranking (32 so far), so I think it was a good move to goodreads, Trevor!

author average
1. Levy 3.56 (18 readers)
2. Szalay 3.70 (10 readers)
3. Macrae Burnet 4.15 (13 readers)
4. Strout 4.91 (23 readers)
5. Menmuir 5.06 (17 readers)
6. Beatty 5.16 (19 readers)
7. Reeves 6.78 (9 readers)
8. McQuire 6.79 (14 readers)
9. Kennedy 7.00 (5 readers)
10. Coetzee 7.50 (2 readers)
11. Moshfegh 8.44 (18 readers)
12. Thien 9.25 (8 readers)
13. Means 10.33 (9 readers)

This is based on pure average ranking. I'm not sure I've done transferable vote with the longlist before but will give it a try soon.


message 34: by Hugh (last edited Sep 04, 2016 01:04PM) (new)

Hugh (bodachliath) | 3538 comments Mod
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message 35: by Jonathan (last edited Sep 09, 2016 02:48AM) (new)

Jonathan Pool 1. His Bloody Project *
2. Do Not Say We Have Nothing*
3. The North Water *
4. The Schooldays of Jesus
5. All That Man Is
6. Work Like Any Other*
7. The Sellout *
8. Eileen
9. My Name Is Lucy Barton
10. The Many
11. Serious Sweet
12. Hot Milk*
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Asterisk * denotes my forecast for 6 Shortlist


message 36: by Gumble's Yard - Golden Reviewer (last edited Oct 14, 2016 04:22AM) (new)

Gumble's Yard - Golden Reviewer | 6823 comments 1 Hot Milk
2 Do Not Say We Have Nothing
3 All That Man Is
4 My Name is Lucy Barton
5 The Many
6 Work Like Any Other
7 His Bloody Project
8 Serious Sweet
9 The Sellout
10 Schooldays of Jesus
11 The North Water
12 Eileen
13 Hystopia


message 37: by Nicole (last edited Sep 14, 2016 12:05PM) (new)

Nicole Roughton (electronicole) | 6 comments 1
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3 The Sellout
4 His Bloody Project
5 Hot Milk
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7 The Many
8 The North Water
9 My Name is Lucy Barton
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So far, my shortlist ranking fits quite nicely into my longlist ranking!


message 38: by Ben (last edited Sep 10, 2016 01:55PM) (new)

Ben Smith (ben_jsmith) | 5 comments 1 My Name is Lucy Barton
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message 39: by Ang (last edited Sep 10, 2016 04:29AM) (new)

Ang | 1685 comments Ranking Saturday 10-SEP-2016 10am

1 Levy 4.24 (25 readers) (6 first place)
1 Burnet 4.24 (21 readers) (2 first place)
3 Szalay 5.26 (19 readers) (0 first place)
4 Strout 5.65 (26 readers) (5 first place)
5 Menmuir 5.74 (23 readers) (0 first place)
6 Coetzee 6. (12 readers) (2 first place)
7 Beatty 6.04 (26 readers) (2 first place)
8 Reeves 6.47 (15 readers) (1 first place)
9 McQuire 6.75 (20 readers) (0 first place)
10 Kennedy 6.83 (12 readers) (3 first place)
11 Thien 7.63 (16 readers) (1 first place)
12 Moshfegh 8.7 (23 readers) (0 first place)
13 Means 10.45 (11 readers) (0 first place)


message 40: by Eric (last edited Jan 05, 2017 07:16AM) (new)

Eric | 257 comments Very limited to selection as I'm reading from the US library system, but what I've read, I'll rank.
1. The Sellout
2. Hot Milk
3. Work Like Any Other
4. My Name is Lucy Barton
5. His Bloody Project*
6. Serious Sweet*
7. Eileen
8. The North Water
*Read after announcement of winner.


message 41: by Ang (new)

Ang | 1685 comments Here it is, the forum ranking prior to shortlist announcement.

1 Levy 4.04 (28 readers) (7 first place)
2 Burnet 4.18 (22 readers) (2 first place)
3 Szalay 5.15 (20 readers) (0 first place)
4 Strout 5.23 (30 readers) (7 first place)
5 Menmuir 5.8 (25 readers) (0 first place)
6 Beatty 5.85 (27 readers) (3 first place)

7 Reeves 6.18 (17 readers) (1 first place)
8 Coetzee 6.38 (13 readers) (2 first place)
9 McQuire 6.59 (22 readers) (0 first place)
10 Kennedy 7.31 (13 readers) (3 first place)
11 Thien 7.56 (16 readers) (1 first place)
12 Moshfegh 8.32 (25 readers) (0 first place)
13 Means 10.45 (11 readers) (0 first place)


message 42: by Carl (last edited Sep 13, 2016 02:37AM) (new)

Carl (catamite) | 137 comments Thanks Ang

I think it's likely very skewed by the length of the books.


message 43: by Hugh (new)

Hugh (bodachliath) | 3538 comments Mod
I thought it might be interesting to compile the league table for these using my latest adjusted rankings calculation:

Pos, Book, Average, Adjusted, Count, First Places
1, His Bloody Project by Graeme Macrae Burnett, 4.29, 3.44, 24, 3
2, Hot Milk by Deborah Levy, 4.07, 3.51, 27, 7
3, All That Man Is by David Szalay, 5.18, 4.76, 22, 0
4, My Name is Lucy Barton by Elizabeth Strout, 5.45, 5.05, 29, 6
5, The Sellout by Paul Beatty, 5.85, 5.22, 27, 3
6, The North Water by Ian McGuire, 6.57, 5.30, 23, 0
7, The Schooldays of Jesus by J. M. Coetzee, 6.36, 5.38, 14, 2
8, The Many by Wyl Menmuir, 6.19, 5.52, 26, 0
9, Work Like Any Other by Virginia Reeves, 6.06, 5.66, 18, 1
10, Serious Sweet by A. L. Kennedy, 7.67, 6.95, 15, 3
11, Do Not Say We Have Nothing by Madeliene Thien, 7.56, 7.00, 18, 1
12, Eileen by Ottessa Moshfegh, 8.32, 7.73, 28, 0
13, Hystopia by David Means, 10.79, 10.18, 14, 0

In retrospect I was surprised by how many of you hated Do Not Say We Have Nothing, which I read after the shortlist announcement, and became my favourite from this list!

Using Paul's sorting algorithm we get
1, Hot Milk by Deborah Levy, 4.07, 94, 27, 7
2, His Bloody Project by Graeme Macrae Burnett, 4.29, 81, 24, 3
3, All That Man Is by David Szalay, 5.18, 35, 22, 0
4, My Name is Lucy Barton by Elizabeth Strout, 5.45, 22, 29, 6
5, The Sellout by Paul Beatty, 5.85, 21, 27, 3
6, Work Like Any Other by Virginia Reeves, 6.06, 15, 18, 1
7, The Schooldays of Jesus by J. M. Coetzee, 6.36, 9, 14, 2
8, The Many by Wyl Menmuir, 6.19, -5, 26, 0
9, The North Water by Ian McGuire, 6.57, -7, 23, 0
10, Do Not Say We Have Nothing by Madeliene Thien, 7.56, -24, 18, 1
11, Serious Sweet by A. L. Kennedy, 7.67, -33, 15, 3
12, Eileen by Ottessa Moshfegh, 8.32, -97, 28, 0
13, Hystopia by David Means, 10.79, -111, 14, 0


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