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Interstella5555 | 52 comments We're only human (well, most of us anyway), so I'm guessing you probably have at some point. It's a nasty habit I have and I keep doing it and I keep missing out on some great stuff.

let me give you some examples: I never used to love Doctor Who (yes I know Shock-Horror!) I used to think it wasn't up to all that much, probably because I'd been spoiled by better looking shows like Star Trek etc. then the show came back in 2005 and I fell in love with it and I'm even working my way through the back catalouge.

When the film Kick Ass was due to come out I saw the promotional pictures for it and I thought "Ugh, green costume, not for me. Then I saw the trailer and ended up seeing the film 3 times, bought the comic book and even the soundtrack.

Have you ever heard of a comic called Chew! When I was starting to get into comics in a big way and I was looking for things to buy I saw this and thought "Awful name, I'm not buying that". Then my local library got the trades in and I picked them up purely for something to read. Now im 9 trades in and I'm gutted that I know it's going to be ending soon.

Anyone else missed out on something good or came to something late and felt bad for missing out?


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Phil | 1173 comments I was similar with Doctor Who. I always thought it looked kind of lame but in the last couple years I had a friend who loved it so when I got Netflix last year I started watching it and got into it. Same with Sherlock. I also didn't start watching Buffy until about the 5th season so I had to catch up with the DVD's.


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Trike | 8788 comments Interstella5555 wrote: "Anyone else missed out on something good or came to something late and felt bad for missing out? "

Doing this specific thing -- deeming something unworthy without any knowledge of it -- isn't something I do. I can't wrap my head around that behavior.


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Phil | 1173 comments But there are far too many things to not dismiss some without real evidence.
Nobody has enough time to watch the first few episodes of every series to come on T.V. in order to judge whether they think it's worth their time. I personally don't bother watching soap operas or dating "reality" shows because just from the commercials and hearing others speak of them I don't imagine they would appeal to me. I also don't read Harlequin Romances, automotive guides for '72 Pontiacs, or Pokémon novels.


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Trike | 8788 comments I think there's a difference between assuming you wouldn't care for something and being prejudiced against it without foundation. The latter sounds like what the OP is about.

I don't read Harlequin romances but I *have* tried a few. That's how I know they're not for me. But I would never say, "Harlequin romances are junk because there's a shirtless guy on the cover." Especially if I haven't read it.


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John (Nevets) Nevets (nevets) | 1628 comments I know I've done this before. But as long as I don't let my ignorance of a title get in the way of others enjoying it I don't feel too bad about it. In that case I'm the only one loses out. I've also learned to give more thing's the benefit of the doubt, because I've done that in the past.

Example: I'm not a fan of horror, I have not given the "Saw" or "Purge" series a look, because I'm convinced they would not be something I'd enjoy. Even though a well written horror movie like "Scream" or "Cabin in the Woods" can transcend that for me. At the same time, I don't think it's necessarily a bad thing that there are people who do enjoy those movies, and I think it's cool that there are stories out there for fans of that genre. And I'm also not going to label them as bad movies (and possibly not even then) until I have seen them, but that is probably not going to be any time soon.

To answer the original question. IIRC I didn't give the "Stargate" tv series much of a chance, since I figured it was just going be a low budget version with recast main charcters from the movie. A few years later after it assimilated my much beloved "Farscape" cast, I gave it a proper shot, what do you know it was a decent series.


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Rick | 2902 comments Trike wrote: "I don't read Harlequin romances but I *have* tried a few. That's how I know they're not for me. But I would never say, "Harlequin romances are junk because there's a shirtless guy on the cover." Especially if I haven't read it.
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That's Phil's point though - people can't reasonably be expected to try a few books in every subgenre before saying "I don't think I'd like X."

HOWEVER... to me, the correct way to deal with those isn't to judge them - you can't, you have no knowledge of them - but rather to say to oneself that the thing doesn't look interesting to you and you're not going to bother trying out that genre/show/author. There's no judgement of quality there, just that, from what you know of the thing under consideration, it's not likely to be interesting to you.


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Elizabeth Morgan (elzbethmrgn) | 290 comments This is every TV show I have ever loved. I've never been a person who sits and watches a weekly show, so most of the time I have fallen in love after I've been able to sit and watch the whole thing at once when the mood takes me: Buffy, Gilmore Girls, Farscape, Scrubs, Dollhouse, Firefly. Being able to stream, legally or less-legally, has meant I see so much more than I otherwise would have bothered to give time to.

OR it has to be a show where you can pick up the gist without having seen it much; ST:TNG stands out for me here. Always loved it, but you don't need the backstory for each episode.

Books? Less likely to try something out of the zone I know I like, because of the sheer time investment, but Kindle has revolutionised that for me with samples - if I like the book by the end of the sample, I'll usually keep going.


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Trike | 8788 comments Rick wrote: "There's no judgement of quality there, just that, from what you know of the thing under consideration, it's not likely to be interesting to you. "

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Interstellar seems to be implying the former rather than the latter.


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Tassie Dave | 3658 comments Mod
I'm sure the Kardashian shows and The Jersey Shore can't be as bad as I , without ever having watched them, judge them to be. No show could be as bad as I think they would be ;-)

But I haven't got time to watch/read/play everything I want to, without trying shows I think I won't like.

So anything I judge to be bad, unfairly or fairly, will more than likely not get a chance to change my view.

The best I can think of are shows I just never watched in their original run that I found and loved after they were completed.
Like The Sopranos and The Shield.


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Fresno Bob | 593 comments Broccoli


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terpkristin | 4212 comments Fresno Bob wrote: "Broccoli"

With or without cheese?


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Fresno Bob | 593 comments without, but roasting it in the oven with olive oil and some red chili spicing is what changed it for me


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Tina (javabird) | 722 comments I know I have often done that. I guess Buffy is a good example - I had a negative opinion about it until my son started watching it regularly when in high school and then I became a fan.


Ruth (tilltab) Ashworth | 1970 comments Elizabeth wrote: "I've never been a person who sits and watches a weekly show, so most of the time I have fallen in love after I've been able to sit and watch the whole thing at once when the mood takes me: Buffy, Gilmore Girls, Farscape, Scrubs, Dollhouse, Firefly."

Funny you mention Gilmore Girls, as this one is mine. I have an irrational dislike of the show even though I know next to nothing about it, and the more people rave about it, the more I dislike it. Just shut up about it already - it's clearly terrible! I mean, it's called Gilmore Girls for goodness sake! Urgh. That's so twee! Just awful. And the pictures that pop up when you google the show - simpering idiots with awkward smiles and silly hugs. I can't imagine why anyone would ever like it!

I haven't so much as read a synopsis or watched clips - I certainly haven't seen an episode. But I have heard people talk about it, and there is nothing in those gushings that makes it sound the slightest bit decent...

...just possibly I am being a tiny bit unfair. :P


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J.J. Mainor John (Nevets) wrote: "To answer the original question. IIRC I didn't give the "Stargate" tv series much of a chance, since I figured it was just going be a low budget version with recast main charcters from the movie. A few years later after it assimilated my much beloved "Farscape" cast, I gave it a proper shot, what do you know it was a decent series. ..."
For me it was kind of the opposite. I got into Stargate with season 9 because it seemed like a good jumping on point, but at the time Farscape originally aired, the show did not appeal to me. Watching Browder and Black take on the roles in SG-1 was the impetus to give Farscape another chance and admittedly, the passage of time gave me a new appreciation for the kind of show it was.


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Trike | 8788 comments Ruth (tilltab) wrote: "Funny you mention Gilmore Girls, as this one is mine."

I'm widely regarding as The Guy Who Hates Everything and I genuinely like Gilmore Girls. I'm certainly not the target audience, so that's how good it is.


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Dara (cmdrdara) | 2702 comments Because Gilmore Girls is the best.


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Dara (cmdrdara) | 2702 comments Now that I think on it, I unfairly judged Battlestar Galactica when I first heard of it. I assumed it was a bad SyFy show. I was wrong.


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John (Taloni) Taloni (johntaloni) | 4215 comments I saw the first episode of Star Trek: The Next Generation and was horrified. I saw perhaps two episodes of the first season. Later on I got into it. But yeah, that first episode...it still sucks hard.


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Dara (cmdrdara) | 2702 comments John (Taloni) wrote: "I saw the first episode of Star Trek: The Next Generation and was horrified. I saw perhaps two episodes of the first season. Later on I got into it. But yeah, that first episode...it still sucks hard."

Oh I did that too then just skipped the first season.


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Keith (keithatc) The films of Yasujiro Ozu. I first learned about him when I was in college, and it was couched in the language of "the most delicate and Japanese of Japanese directors" and "acutely sensitive and exquisite" and all that other nonsense about how it is impossible to understand him without "studying the Japanese soul." I had an immediate, intense knee-jerk reaction to that rhetoric and instead of directed it at the professor saying those things, I directed it at Ozu and refused to ever watch his films.

A few years ago, when coming to terms with assorted dumb things I'd decided over the years, I watched an Ozu film. And found just about everything I'd been told was a load of nonsense. He was entertaining, universally relatable, enjoyed crude jokes, and was just fantastic. Now I count him as one of my favorite directors.


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Tassie Dave | 3658 comments Mod
Dara wrote: "Now that I think on it, I unfairly judged Battlestar Galactica when I first heard of it. I assumed it was a bad SyFy show. I was wrong."

Too bad it couldn't sustain it's great first season and a half.

The less said about the final episode the better.


message 24: by Kat (last edited Jul 21, 2016 01:12AM) (new)

Kat | 37 comments Breaking Bad.

I think that show is utter rubbish.

Of course I have zero facts to base this on.


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Fredrik (fredurix) | 221 comments There have been books I've resisted reading (some that I've gotten from eBook bundles, others that I've had suggested to me) because the title sounds dumb, but that after I got past my initia reluctance I really enjoyed.


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Elizabeth Morgan (elzbethmrgn) | 290 comments Trike wrote: "Ruth (tilltab) wrote: "Funny you mention Gilmore Girls, as this one is mine."

I'm widely regarding as The Guy Who Hates Everything and I genuinely like Gilmore Girls. I'm certainly not the target ..."


It's really one of those shows where you walk past while it's on the TV and all of a sudden you're sitting on the couch and have seen four episodes in a row. It happens to both my husband my brother-in-law all the time ;)


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Dara (cmdrdara) | 2702 comments Tassie Dave wrote: "Too bad it couldn't sustain it's great first season and a half.

The less said about the final episode the better."


True story. I loved the first two seasons. Liked the third. The fourth was so abysmal it almost ruined the show for me.


message 28: by Trike (new)

Trike | 8788 comments I gave Battlestar Galactica a number of chances. I never liked it.

I kept hearing about Breaking Bad, but I had missed the first few seasons. When it came on Netflix I gave it a try. I discovered it was as good as everyone had been saying. I lost sleep binge-watching it over a week.

My mom always said of food, "At least TRY it. If you don't like it then, fine." I apply that to everything in life.


message 29: by Keith (new)

Keith (keithatc) Escargot.


message 30: by Rick (last edited Jul 21, 2016 10:15AM) (new)

Rick | 2902 comments I truly don't understand how people can hold an opinion on the quality of something they've never tried.

I get how one can think "that sounds like something that doesn't interest me" or "Yea, I probably would/would not like X" but to think "I know nothing about this but I like/dislike it" seems odd.

For example, I don't do horror movies and when I first saw the trailers for the movie Saw I thought to myself "No way, that looks like nothing more than torture porn..." but I can't say I hated the movie, just that the trailer turned me off.


message 31: by Phil On The Hill (new)

Phil On The Hill (philonthehillexon) | 247 comments I think we all do it, sometimes subconsciously. It works both ways though. Sometime you think something will be great and it turns out to be pants.


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Kat | 37 comments Keith wrote: "Escargot."

/agree.


Ruth (tilltab) Ashworth | 1970 comments Rick wrote: "I get how one can think "that sounds like something that doesn't interest me" or "Yea, I probably would/would not like X" but to think "I know nothing about this but I like/dislike it" seems odd."

I completely agree. Of course, knee jerk, irrational dislikes are, by definition, odd - they wouldn't be irrational otherwise. :P


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Interstella5555 | 52 comments Ive only just caught up with SL ep 263 and realised I got a namecheck!!! :D

So coooool

Nice to know I'm not the only one out there with knee jerk reactions, dont think I've pre-judged something in the last few months. Must be doing good.



HA!

Cammy


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Stephen Richter (stephenofskytrain) | 1377 comments Star Wars Clone Wars really sucked for the first 6 episodes. I gave up but a friend told me it got better and he was right, I stayed away from Deadpool because I thought there was no way Marvel would get it right, but I was wrong . And I stayed away from The Name of the Wind because of the Kingkiller tag and I was kind of burned out over king killing thanks to George R.R. Martin. It was not until The Name of the Wind went on sale for $1.99 as an ebook and I brought it , loved it and The Wise Man's Fear became the first ebook I brought that was not on sale.


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George (georgefromny) | 70 comments Yes, the breakup of Yugoslavia.


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