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Erikson and Esslemont - Malazan > Midnight Tides [Sept 2017]

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message 1: by Scott , Karsa Orlong (new)

Scott  Hitchcock (lostinthewarrenofchaos) | 8082 comments Mod
Starting 8/6

In.


message 2: by Jenna, I'd be free if not for Temper & Edgewalker (new)

Jenna Kathleen (jennakathleen) | 4603 comments Mod
In!


message 3: by Scott , Karsa Orlong (new)

Scott  Hitchcock (lostinthewarrenofchaos) | 8082 comments Mod
So assuming it's just you and I any interest in moving this up to 8/1?

We should be done with The Price of Valour by then and I'd like to start
The Guns of Empire when it comes out on the 9th not having a Malazan hangover.


message 4: by Jenna, I'd be free if not for Temper & Edgewalker (new)

Jenna Kathleen (jennakathleen) | 4603 comments Mod
I would be good with moving it to the 1st.


message 5: by Scott , Karsa Orlong (new)

Scott  Hitchcock (lostinthewarrenofchaos) | 8082 comments Mod
Jenna wrote: "I would be good with moving it to the 1st."

Sweet.


message 6: by Scott , Karsa Orlong (new)

Scott  Hitchcock (lostinthewarrenofchaos) | 8082 comments Mod
I've finished up everything I've been reading and couldn't resist getting started.

OMFG NOBODY write prologues like Erikson!!

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message 7: by Jenna, I'd be free if not for Temper & Edgewalker (new)

Jenna Kathleen (jennakathleen) | 4603 comments Mod
Scott wrote: "I've finished up everything I've been reading and couldn't resist getting started.

OMFG NOBODY write prologues like Erikson!!


How can you not love the visual he paints with K’Chain Che’Malle (v..."


Now who's the one cheating?!


message 8: by Scott , Karsa Orlong (new)

Scott  Hitchcock (lostinthewarrenofchaos) | 8082 comments Mod
Jenna wrote: "Now who's the one cheating?! ."

Turnabout....


message 9: by Scott , Karsa Orlong (new)

Scott  Hitchcock (lostinthewarrenofchaos) | 8082 comments Mod
So let's just say I was lost a few times in chapter one like I've never been in this series not even GOTM. It was still really good but there's a few portions where he's talking about shit that's never been approached before and a lot of it is in cryptic poetic fashion. The dark imagery of it was still amazing but it made my head spin.

For the first time in a long time I had to read the entire TOR re-read for a chapter to be sure I had it down.


message 10: by Scott , Karsa Orlong (new)

Scott  Hitchcock (lostinthewarrenofchaos) | 8082 comments Mod
Also

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message 11: by Scott , Karsa Orlong (last edited Jul 31, 2016 03:51AM) (new)

Scott  Hitchcock (lostinthewarrenofchaos) | 8082 comments Mod
Chapter two

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message 12: by Scott , Karsa Orlong (new)

Scott  Hitchcock (lostinthewarrenofchaos) | 8082 comments Mod
Chapter three

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message 13: by Scott , Karsa Orlong (new)

Scott  Hitchcock (lostinthewarrenofchaos) | 8082 comments Mod
chapter 4

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message 14: by Jenna, I'd be free if not for Temper & Edgewalker (new)

Jenna Kathleen (jennakathleen) | 4603 comments Mod
Cheater.


message 15: by Scott , Karsa Orlong (new)

Scott  Hitchcock (lostinthewarrenofchaos) | 8082 comments Mod
Guilty.


message 16: by Jenna, I'd be free if not for Temper & Edgewalker (new)

Jenna Kathleen (jennakathleen) | 4603 comments Mod
Watch out - the Lady of Moon's Spawn will exact her revenge.


message 17: by Scott , Karsa Orlong (new)

Scott  Hitchcock (lostinthewarrenofchaos) | 8082 comments Mod
Jenna wrote: "Watch out - the Lady of Moon's Spawn will exact her revenge."

You'll catch me. I don't plan on ripping through it. Since we bowed out of Guns of Empire my August schedule allows me to relax and enjoy.


message 18: by Scott , Karsa Orlong (new)

Scott  Hitchcock (lostinthewarrenofchaos) | 8082 comments Mod
Chapter 5

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message 19: by Scott , Karsa Orlong (new)

Scott  Hitchcock (lostinthewarrenofchaos) | 8082 comments Mod
Chapter 6

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message 20: by Scott , Karsa Orlong (new)

Scott  Hitchcock (lostinthewarrenofchaos) | 8082 comments Mod
Chapter 7

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message 21: by Jenna, I'd be free if not for Temper & Edgewalker (new)

Jenna Kathleen (jennakathleen) | 4603 comments Mod
I am so behind and will comment on this discussion later today, I promise.


message 22: by Scott , Karsa Orlong (new)

Scott  Hitchcock (lostinthewarrenofchaos) | 8082 comments Mod
Jenna wrote: "I am so behind and will comment on this discussion later today, I promise."

I'm only 190 pages in and probably won't make much progress today so no worries. I'm working on another book which is a much easier read and I'm a bit worn down so I've been reading more of that.


message 23: by Jenna, I'd be free if not for Temper & Edgewalker (new)

Jenna Kathleen (jennakathleen) | 4603 comments Mod
Scott wrote: "I've finished up everything I've been reading and couldn't resist getting started.

OMFG NOBODY write prologues like Erikson!!"


Agree with literally everything you said in this spoiler - the prologue was brilliant, as always.


message 24: by Jenna, I'd be free if not for Temper & Edgewalker (new)

Jenna Kathleen (jennakathleen) | 4603 comments Mod
Chapter 2

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message 25: by Scott , Karsa Orlong (new)

Scott  Hitchcock (lostinthewarrenofchaos) | 8082 comments Mod
Jenna wrote: "Chapter 2

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message 26: by Scott , Karsa Orlong (new)

Scott  Hitchcock (lostinthewarrenofchaos) | 8082 comments Mod
chapter 8

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message 27: by Scott , Karsa Orlong (new)

Scott  Hitchcock (lostinthewarrenofchaos) | 8082 comments Mod
Chapter 9, otherwise known as the chapter where my faith in Erikson is rewarded. The chapter where I think oh you stupid idiot why did you not see that coming.

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message 28: by Scott , Karsa Orlong (new)

Scott  Hitchcock (lostinthewarrenofchaos) | 8082 comments Mod
Chapter 10

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message 29: by Scott , Karsa Orlong (new)

Scott  Hitchcock (lostinthewarrenofchaos) | 8082 comments Mod
Chapter 11........more epic

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message 30: by Jenna, I'd be free if not for Temper & Edgewalker (new)

Jenna Kathleen (jennakathleen) | 4603 comments Mod
I'm on chapter 5 now, but I really need to read the Tor re-read. There are so many new characters - I feel like this is GotM all over again. And everyone is someone's brother...


message 31: by Scott , Karsa Orlong (new)

Scott  Hitchcock (lostinthewarrenofchaos) | 8082 comments Mod
Jenna wrote: "I'm on chapter 5 now, but I really need to read the Tor re-read. There are so many new characters - I feel like this is GotM all over again. And everyone is someone's brother..."

This is the first book I was confused in. I hear the people who have read the books multiple times say certain books are better in the re-read. This is the first one where I believe it. There's some great chapters coming up though.


message 32: by Scott , Karsa Orlong (new)

Scott  Hitchcock (lostinthewarrenofchaos) | 8082 comments Mod
Chapter 12......there is some amazing imagery in this chapter and Erikson really calls out modern society. There's so much quotable material.

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message 33: by Scott , Karsa Orlong (new)

Scott  Hitchcock (lostinthewarrenofchaos) | 8082 comments Mod
Chapter 13..........So after a confusing start this is shaping up to potentially be the best of the series. SOOOOoooo many interesting plot lines interwoven that can go almost in any direction.

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message 34: by Scott , Karsa Orlong (new)

Scott  Hitchcock (lostinthewarrenofchaos) | 8082 comments Mod
Chapter 14.......Erikson is getting really good at flipping the switch where a scene starts out with absurd humor and WHAM series altering information. Since chapter 9 on this has been as good as it gets.

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message 35: by Lundos (new)

Lundos | 392 comments Thanks for all the comments Scott. I really need to read this again. I remember thinking it as one of the best in the series and even as a stand alone it is awesome.


message 36: by Jenna, I'd be free if not for Temper & Edgewalker (new)

Jenna Kathleen (jennakathleen) | 4603 comments Mod
Lundos wrote: "Thanks for all the comments Scott. I really need to read this again. I remember thinking it as one of the best in the series and even as a stand alone it is awesome."

I have a feeling this will be better when I re-read it. It's awesome so far, but not as great as the rest of the series for me. We shall see when I get a bit further.


message 37: by Lundos (new)

Lundos | 392 comments It's different from the first four that's for sure. For me the Tehol/Bugg relationship is amazingly written. And the book gives depth to the Malazan world.


message 38: by Jenna, I'd be free if not for Temper & Edgewalker (new)

Jenna Kathleen (jennakathleen) | 4603 comments Mod
Lundos wrote: "It's different from the first four that's for sure. For me the Tehol/Bugg relationship is amazingly written. And the book gives depth to the Malazan world."

Tehol is my favourite character so far in this book.


message 39: by Scott , Karsa Orlong (new)

Scott  Hitchcock (lostinthewarrenofchaos) | 8082 comments Mod
Lundos wrote: "Thanks for all the comments Scott. I really need to read this again. I remember thinking it as one of the best in the series and even as a stand alone it is awesome."

Thanks for reading them. There's no other series where I write so much in the spoilers because there's no other series with they myriad of thought provoking action going on.

Jenna wait until chapter 9. The world comes into focus and things start to go boom in the night........or is is shadow? :)


message 40: by Scott , Karsa Orlong (last edited Aug 05, 2016 02:03AM) (new)

Scott  Hitchcock (lostinthewarrenofchaos) | 8082 comments Mod
Chapter 15.........damn I totally got something earlier wrong.......

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message 41: by Scott , Karsa Orlong (new)

Scott  Hitchcock (lostinthewarrenofchaos) | 8082 comments Mod
Chapter 16

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message 42: by Scott , Karsa Orlong (new)

Scott  Hitchcock (lostinthewarrenofchaos) | 8082 comments Mod
Chapters 17 + 18 (shorter ones)

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message 43: by Jenna, I'd be free if not for Temper & Edgewalker (new)

Jenna Kathleen (jennakathleen) | 4603 comments Mod
Come Night of Knives, I will have my revenge on your speediness for this one.


message 44: by Scott , Karsa Orlong (new)

Scott  Hitchcock (lostinthewarrenofchaos) | 8082 comments Mod
I haven't been lighting it up and night of knives is only 370-ish pages so go for it. :)

Bone hunters is over 1200 so I'll set my sites there!


message 45: by Jenna, I'd be free if not for Temper & Edgewalker (last edited Aug 06, 2016 12:30AM) (new)

Jenna Kathleen (jennakathleen) | 4603 comments Mod
I just finished chapter 6 - I think this is the turning point for me - I'm really starting to love the story and the characters - especially Tehol and Bugg.


message 46: by Scott , Karsa Orlong (new)

Scott  Hitchcock (lostinthewarrenofchaos) | 8082 comments Mod
It's not that I didn't like the first 8 chapters. There were some brilliant moments and the writing, you can see how he's improved over time. I had the confusion many scream about with GOTM. I never had that with GOTM. I think a re-read of this book I would pick up so many things in those first 8 chapters that I missed the first time around.


message 47: by Scott , Karsa Orlong (new)

Scott  Hitchcock (lostinthewarrenofchaos) | 8082 comments Mod
Chapters 19+20 (shorter ones)

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message 48: by Scott , Karsa Orlong (new)

Scott  Hitchcock (lostinthewarrenofchaos) | 8082 comments Mod
Chapter 21

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message 49: by Scott , Karsa Orlong (new)

Scott  Hitchcock (lostinthewarrenofchaos) | 8082 comments Mod
Chapter 22, another short one as are 23 and 24 (I only checked their length I haven't read them yet) but 25 is mammoth.......which I'm hoping means epic ending.

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message 50: by Jenna, I'd be free if not for Temper & Edgewalker (new)

Jenna Kathleen (jennakathleen) | 4603 comments Mod
Scott wrote: "It's not that I didn't like the first 8 chapters. There were some brilliant moments and the writing, you can see how he's improved over time. I had the confusion many scream about with GOTM. I neve..."

Yeah, I was actually more confused than with GotM in this one. Probably because I wasn't expecting to be confused at this point in the series. Another Erikson surprise!


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