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message 1: by Scott , Karsa Orlong (new) - rated it 4 stars

Scott  Hitchcock (lostinthewarrenofchaos) | 8082 comments Mod
The Shadow Throne

Starting 7-12-16


message 2: by Scott , Karsa Orlong (last edited Jul 12, 2016 03:48AM) (new) - rated it 4 stars

Scott  Hitchcock (lostinthewarrenofchaos) | 8082 comments Mod
Prologue and Chapter 1

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Scott  Hitchcock (lostinthewarrenofchaos) | 8082 comments Mod
Chapter 2

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Dan (danstri) | 93 comments Scott wrote: "Chapter 2

You know, I actually thought the same as you about the princess when reading this chapter.


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Scott  Hitchcock (lostinthewarrenofchaos) | 8082 comments Mod
Dan wrote: "Scott wrote: "Chapter 2

You know, I actually thought the same as you about the princess when reading this chapter."


So you're saying we agree. :)


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Dan (danstri) | 93 comments I'm actually on chapter 10 right now but I wanna talk about this one:

Chapter 5:

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message 7: by Jenna, I'd be free if not for Temper & Edgewalker (new) - rated it 4 stars

Jenna Kathleen (jennakathleen) | 4603 comments Mod
I actually haven't started yet...I needed a day or two to recover after HOC and I also started Rise of Empire.


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Dan (danstri) | 93 comments That's fine Jenna, but what's HOC and why do you need to recover from it? Is it very emotional or something?


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Jenna Kathleen (jennakathleen) | 4603 comments Mod
Dan wrote: "That's fine Jenna, but what's HOC and why do you need to recover from it? Is it very emotional or something?"

Aaah, House of Chains from our Malazan read. Mostly I just read a lot in one day (~200-300pages) and I need to take a break, but it was very emotional at the end as well.


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Scott  Hitchcock (lostinthewarrenofchaos) | 8082 comments Mod
Dan wrote: "I'm actually on chapter 10 right now but I wanna talk about this one:

Chapter 5:]"


I finally made it through chapter 5. Much like Jenna I'm suffering from Post-Malazan-Syndrome and need chocolate and a hot bath. Those books are simply exhausting. I can't focus a few days after one of the books because they require so much concentration.

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Jenna Kathleen (jennakathleen) | 4603 comments Mod
Scott wrote: "Much like Jenna I'm suffering from Post-Malazan-Syndrome and need chocolate and a hot bath. Those books are simply exhausting. I can't focus a few days after one of the books because they require so much concentration. "

Lol! Well, I don't like chocolate and it feels like 40 degrees Celcius with humidity these days so I'll skip the hot bath too, but yes, I am exhausted and could possibly drown myself in a tub of ice cream.


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Scott  Hitchcock (lostinthewarrenofchaos) | 8082 comments Mod
I didn't realize Post-Malazan-Syndrome symptoms included literalness. :) I guess it makes sense after all the symbolism in the books.


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Scott  Hitchcock (lostinthewarrenofchaos) | 8082 comments Mod
Chapter 6

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message 14: by Jenna, I'd be free if not for Temper & Edgewalker (new) - rated it 4 stars

Jenna Kathleen (jennakathleen) | 4603 comments Mod
Scott wrote: "I didn't realize Post-Malazan-Syndrome symptoms included literalness. :) I guess it makes sense after all the symbolism in the books."

Yes, literalness is one of the very tramatic symptoms. I ate ice cream today so I should be back and reading very shortly. ;)


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Scott  Hitchcock (lostinthewarrenofchaos) | 8082 comments Mod
Through page 138 a general observation

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Dan (danstri) | 93 comments Scott wrote: "Through page 138 a general observation

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Scott  Hitchcock (lostinthewarrenofchaos) | 8082 comments Mod
Dan wrote: "Through page 138 a general observation."

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Dan (danstri) | 93 comments (view spoiler)


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Scott  Hitchcock (lostinthewarrenofchaos) | 8082 comments Mod
Dan wrote: ""

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message 20: by Jenna, I'd be free if not for Temper & Edgewalker (new) - rated it 4 stars

Jenna Kathleen (jennakathleen) | 4603 comments Mod
Sorry guys, I've been reading Riyria - I'll get to this soon, I promise :)


message 21: by Jenna, I'd be free if not for Temper & Edgewalker (new) - rated it 4 stars

Jenna Kathleen (jennakathleen) | 4603 comments Mod
Woohoo! I read up to chapter 9: (view spoiler).


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Scott  Hitchcock (lostinthewarrenofchaos) | 8082 comments Mod
Jenna wrote: "Woohoo! I read up to chapter 9:"

I'm only on chapter 10 so that didn't take you long.

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Scott  Hitchcock (lostinthewarrenofchaos) | 8082 comments Mod
Page 260.....a theory just hit me but I swear I'm right. If so a huge spoiler so read only if you want to. You can read before page 260 because it's not really certain.

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Scott  Hitchcock (lostinthewarrenofchaos) | 8082 comments Mod
Through chapter 14.......What a dumbass I am not not seeing this

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Dan (danstri) | 93 comments Scott wrote: "Page 260.....a theory just hit me but I swear I'm right. If so a huge spoiler so read only if you want to. You can read before page 260 because it's not really certain.


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Dan (danstri) | 93 comments Scott wrote: "Through chapter 14.......What a dumbass I am not not seeing this


Another thing that makes sense and this time I thought of it too, but I think it's a bit too obvious, don't you?


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Dan (danstri) | 93 comments Jenna wrote: "Woohoo! I read up to chapter 9:

Wow, you're reading fast, well done! Keep on reading fast please cause I'm about to finish the book myself and I'll want to talk about the ending with someone haha!

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Scott  Hitchcock (lostinthewarrenofchaos) | 8082 comments Mod
Dan wrote: Another thing that makes sense and this time I thought of it too, but I think it's a bit too obvious, don't you?"

Maybe. I think we are at least right that there's a tie-in even if we have the outcome incorrect. I'll actually be happier if he comes up with something more clever.


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Scott  Hitchcock (lostinthewarrenofchaos) | 8082 comments Mod
Dan wrote: ""

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Scott  Hitchcock (lostinthewarrenofchaos) | 8082 comments Mod
another theory....

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message 31: by Jenna, I'd be free if not for Temper & Edgewalker (last edited Jul 16, 2016 11:52AM) (new) - rated it 4 stars

Jenna Kathleen (jennakathleen) | 4603 comments Mod
Scott wrote: "Page 260.....a theory just hit me but I swear I'm right. If so a huge spoiler so read only if you want to. You can read before page 260 because it's not really certain. "

This totally makes sense. I think you might be right. I won't open any more of your spoilers for now because I'm on chapter 12.


message 32: by Jenna, I'd be free if not for Temper & Edgewalker (new) - rated it 4 stars

Jenna Kathleen (jennakathleen) | 4603 comments Mod
Up to chapter 16: (view spoiler).


message 33: by Jenna, I'd be free if not for Temper & Edgewalker (new) - rated it 4 stars

Jenna Kathleen (jennakathleen) | 4603 comments Mod
Jenna wrote: "Up to chapter 16: [spoilers removed]."

Really, I'm still laughing.


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Scott  Hitchcock (lostinthewarrenofchaos) | 8082 comments Mod
Jenna wrote: "Really, I'm still laughing."

He really can be obtuse.


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Dan (danstri) | 93 comments Obtuse is a kind word. I mean, I love the character but, my God, he's really blind when it comes to women!

By the way, I finished the book. 4.5 stars which I might round up to 5 in my review. It's not as perfect as the first but it's damn good as well.

Whenever you guys finish please let me know as I wanna discuss two connected things about the ending, and one of them is about your big theory Scott.


message 36: by Jenna, I'd be free if not for Temper & Edgewalker (new) - rated it 4 stars

Jenna Kathleen (jennakathleen) | 4603 comments Mod
Dan wrote: "Obtuse is a kind word. I mean, I love the character but, my God, he's really blind when it comes to women!

By the way, I finished the book. 4.5 stars which I might round up to 5 in my review. It's..."


I will probably finish tonight :)


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Scott  Hitchcock (lostinthewarrenofchaos) | 8082 comments Mod
I'll finish tomorrow.

Yes clueless is probably more fitting than obtuse.

It has been two books for me. The first 25% was a 3 and I'm at 80% now and the 55% since has been a 5. The ending will probably decide between a 4 and 5 for me.


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Scott  Hitchcock (lostinthewarrenofchaos) | 8082 comments Mod
BTW I simply love Janus as a character. Such a great blend of arrogance and eccentric.


message 39: by Jenna, I'd be free if not for Temper & Edgewalker (new) - rated it 4 stars

Jenna Kathleen (jennakathleen) | 4603 comments Mod
Scott wrote: "I'll finish tomorrow.

Yes clueless is probably more fitting than obtuse.

It has been two books for me. The first 25% was a 3 and I'm at 80% now and the 55% since has been a 5. The ending will p..."


I think the first part was a 4 for me and the rest a 5. I'm pretty generous with my stars though. Any POV chapter of Orlanko was a 3 though.


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Scott  Hitchcock (lostinthewarrenofchaos) | 8082 comments Mod
Orlanko sadly has been a disappointing chartacter. I thought after the thousand names he would be quite brilliant.


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Jenna Kathleen (jennakathleen) | 4603 comments Mod
Scott wrote: "Orlanko sadly has been a disappointing chartacter. I thought after the thousand names he would be quite brilliant."

I agree - without the Concordat, he would be nothing.


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Dan (danstri) | 93 comments I wanna weigh in on Orlanko but I can't until you finish the book!

Anyways, the book got better and better as it went and the next book has the potential to be quite explosive.


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Jenna Kathleen (jennakathleen) | 4603 comments Mod
Dan wrote: "I wanna weigh in on Orlanko but I can't until you finish the book!

Anyways, the book got better and better as it went and the next book has the potential to be quite explosive."


I just finished!! You can talk about him, just hide it with spoiler tags.


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Dan (danstri) | 93 comments Jenna wrote: "Dan wrote: "I wanna weigh in on Orlanko but I can't until you finish the book!

Anyways, the book got better and better as it went and the next book has the potential to be quite explosive."

I jus..."


You read so fast, I'm envious! Anyways, what did you think of:

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Jenna Kathleen (jennakathleen) | 4603 comments Mod
Dan wrote: "Jenna wrote: "Dan wrote: "I wanna weigh in on Orlanko but I can't until you finish the book!

Anyways, the book got better and better as it went and the next book has the potential to be quite expl..."


At first, I definitely thought (view spoiler)


message 46: by Scott , Karsa Orlong (last edited Jul 17, 2016 08:15AM) (new) - rated it 4 stars

Scott  Hitchcock (lostinthewarrenofchaos) | 8082 comments Mod
Dan I love your twist on my original theory! But.....

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Daniel Millard | 30 comments This book really didn't do much for me (see my review), I was just very frustrated with the character archetypes and inane behavior. I see The Price of Valour is next up on the docket for a group read, but although I want to get to it, I'm too weary of Wexler's last entry. Starting to understand why I see these bobbing up on the clearance rack at Half Price.


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Scott  Hitchcock (lostinthewarrenofchaos) | 8082 comments Mod
Daniel wrote: "This book really didn't do much for me (see my review), I was just very frustrated with the character archetypes and inane behavior. I see The Price of Valour is next up on the dock..."

No worries I wouldn't continue if I felt like you did after the first two books. I enjoyed reading both of the reviews which were very detailed. I also enjoyed your Name of the Wind review which I shared nearly all the same issues with.

Hopefully you'll join us for something else. If you want true epic go for Malazan.


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Dan (danstri) | 93 comments Jenna wrote: "Dan wrote: "Jenna wrote: "Dan wrote: "I wanna weigh in on Orlanko but I can't until you finish the book!

Anyways, the book got better and better as it went and the next book has the potential to b..."


Sorry I couldn't reply to this earlier but I had a busy last couple of days!

I started reading the next book last night, I hope he hints at our theories in this book, I'm really curious if we were spot on about any of it!


Daniel Millard | 30 comments I realize I sound really cranky above. I think I was just disappointed because I expected more out of book 2. I loved the army maneuvers and combat in book 1, and that's what sucked me in, but The Shadow Throne was a pretty different book.

I'm hoping for Lies of Locke Lamora in August!


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