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Policies & Practices > Advice sought please - TIA

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message 1: by Beth (last edited Jun 18, 2016 09:21AM) (new)

Beth | 20 comments Dear dedicated librarians - I'm keen to avoid any sniff of self-promotion, but I've recently been informed by a potential publisher that I should convert my private webpage to a promo-site for all my books. I'd very much like to ask the GR community for any comments specifically about the functionality of my revised site - how easy it is to click between sections, etc. I certainly won't do this if you consider it self-promotion, but the feedback I must admit would be truly helpful. Thanks for your consideration. Here's the link: http://www.womenstuff.org


message 2: by lethe (new)

lethe | 13730 comments The Librarians Group is not the right place for this. Maybe the Author Feedback Group?


message 3: by Beth (new)

Beth | 20 comments lethe wrote: "The Librarians Group is not the right place for this. Maybe the Author Feedback Group?" Not sure why you think my asking advice from the Librarians shouldn't be in the Librarian Group? As someone fairly new to GR I'm seeking their expertise/ruling about whether or not to post my notice in the Author Feedback Group. I'm NOT suggesting posting it anywhere else. Please can you explain your comment. Thanks in advance.


message 4: by Elizabeth (Alaska) (last edited Jun 18, 2016 03:10PM) (new)

Elizabeth (Alaska) | 6662 comments Librarians maintain the database. We are volunteers. I agree with Lethe that the Author Feedback group might be a better place for you to get some perspective and advice on how to proceed.


message 5: by Beth (new)

Beth | 20 comments Elizabeth (Alaska) wrote: "Librarians maintain the database. We are volunteers. I agree with Lethe that the Author Feedback group might be a better place for you to get some perspective and advice on how to proceed." Thanks, Elizabeth [and lethe!] -- The Librarians have been very helpful to me in past weeks about Policies and Practices -- I'm sceptical that Readers are privy to fundamental GR policies. Surely, they'd just be guessing. If the Librarians aren't able to provide an authoritative voice about this matter, perhaps you'd be kind enough to point me in the right direction of a group which can. I really am trying to do the right thing, here.


message 6: by Abcdarian (new)

Abcdarian | 19392 comments Two librarians have already suggested that you try the Author Feedback Group. We are not authorities on GR policies or website functionality.


message 7: by Beth (new)

Beth | 20 comments Abcdarian wrote: "Two librarians have already suggested that you try the Author Feedback Group. We are not authorities on GR policies or website functionality."Thank you, of course I will try that. I was merely trying to see whether someone knew of a more authoratative voice for GR policy. It does sound as though your tone is a bit peremptory. As I've said, I'm trying to do the right thing without offending anyone or breaking the rules. So sorry to have bothered you.


message 8: by lethe (last edited Jun 19, 2016 02:24AM) (new)

lethe | 13730 comments Beth wrote: "Not sure why you think my asking advice from the Librarians shouldn't be in the Librarian Group? As someone fairly new to GR I'm seeking their expertise/ruling about whether or not to post my notice in the Author Feedback Group. I'm NOT suggesting posting it anywhere else. Please can you explain your comment."

Your asking advice shouldn't be in the Librarians Group because librarians are members (readers) who have volunteered to help out with improving the database/catalogue. We are not here to give advice on people's websites (per your original request), and since we are not staff, we do not have the authority to issue rulings.

Beth wrote: "-- The Librarians have been very helpful to me in past weeks about Policies and Practices -- I'm sceptical that Readers are privy to fundamental GR policies. Surely, they'd just be guessing."

The Policies & Practices folder in this group is to discuss/ask questions about/propose amendments to existing policy concerning the catalogue, and nothing more. As stated before, librarians are not staff.

If I understand you correctly you modified your original question into asking librarians whether you should post this in the Author Feedback Group. I appreciate you are trying to do the right thing, but since you are an author, I (and the other librarians who commented) would think the Author Feedback Group is the first place you should seek advice for questions like these.


message 9: by Beth (new)

Beth | 20 comments lethe wrote: "Beth wrote: "Not sure why you think my asking advice from the Librarians shouldn't be in the Librarian Group? As someone fairly new to GR I'm seeking their expertise/ruling about whether or not to ..." Sorry lethe, I did NOT modify my original request, though may not have expressed it clearly enough. I also tried to find the answer to my question about GR policy elsewhere on the site before posting. May I suggest that when someone, like myself, fairly new to the site sees the phrase Policies & Practices they may logically assume that means for the site as a whole. I certainly didn't intuit it to mean policies/practices about the DB.

As I've already said yesterday I did post my original request in the Author Feedback Group, though have scant hope anyone will be privy to the legal side of GR. As I further asked in my Reply 5 - I asked, politely, whether any Librarian might point me in the right direction to discover official GR policy on the matter.

I do honestly appreciate all the help I've received since I became a GR author - I believe you'll find my past queries have been to learn better how this site works and how it and I can be of mutual benefit. This thread is the only one that has left me feeling less a member of the helpful community of folk with common interest, and more as though I've dared overstepped some invisible line.

I don't deserve that - I've treated you with enormous respect. Dunno whether or not you actually saw the post I wrote specifically praising the Librarians - and which was endorsed by so many writers. I repeat - I do not deserve your implied opprobrium.

I apologise if what I've said has been so misinterpreted - I don't believe that's wholly down to me. I consider this matter closed and sincerely hope I don't have to trouble any of you again.


message 10: by Paula (new)

Paula (paulaan) | 7027 comments Librarians have (should have ) a good understanding of policies relating to the way GR catalogues books and expects book data to be maintained. Your question does not related to that.

The people who decide general policies are GR Staff. If you want an answer to a non book cataloging / book data question then you need to ask GR support.

You can contact them using the Contact Us link on the help page to ask your question


message 11: by lethe (new)

lethe | 13730 comments Beth wrote: "This thread is the only one that has left me feeling less a member of the helpful community of folk with common interest, and more as though I've dared overstepped some invisible line."

I am very sorry about that, but I think the misinterpretation must be both ways, because it was definitely not my intention to attack you.

If my initial reply (#2) seemed curt, it was because I was typing on my tablet and did not have much time last night. (I especially turned on my computer today in order to give you a more elaborate response to your later questions :) )

"May I suggest that when someone, like myself, fairly new to the site sees the phrase Policies & Practices they may logically assume that means for the site as a whole. I certainly didn't intuit it to mean policies/practices about the DB."

I understand that, that's why I explained what the Policies & Practices folder is for, and what the Librarians Group as a whole is for.

As I've already said yesterday I did post my original request in the Author Feedback Group, though have scant hope anyone will be privy to the legal side of GR.

The Author Feedback Group was created specifically for authors to give feedback and ask questions about how best to make use of the site and how best to market your books. It is moderated by specialist staff. If they can't help you, I don't know who can.

Dunno whether or not you actually saw the post I wrote specifically praising the Librarians - and which was endorsed by so many writers.

I didn't (not a member of the Author Feedback Group), but I looked it up just now. Thank you, it is very much appreciated!

But please don't put us on a pedestal and think we are all-knowing beings, we aren't. Our expertise is limited. And when someone asks a question that is better asked elsewhere, we try to refer them to the appropriate place, be it Support, or the Feedback Group, or the Author Feedback Group.

If you have questions about your books or anything else catalogue-related, you're very welcome to ask them here.


message 12: by rivka, Librarian Moderator (new)

rivka | 42435 comments Mod
As has been mentioned, this is not a Librarians Group issue, but one for the Author Feedback Group. Or you may wish to use the Contact Us link on the Help page. Librarians can help with issues pertaining to specific book records or most related issues, but have no control over general site functionality or author issues outside of fixing book or author listings on Goodreads itself. Closing thread.


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