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message 1: by Kimber (new)

Kimber Cross (KimberCross) | 1 comments A data scientist put together some numbers on the size of Shakespeares' unique vocabulary compared to Hip Hop artists today with some pretty interesting results.

Have a look:

http://rappers.mdaniels.com.s3-websit...


message 2: by Michael (new)

Michael Kneeland | 8 comments Kimber wrote: "A data scientist put together some numbers on the size of Shakespeares' unique vocabulary compared to Hip Hop artists today with some pretty interesting results."

The idea behind the analysis is interesting, but it is far too exclusive to mean anything we can use. For instance, Daniels, the data analyst, only uses the first 5,000 words of only seven of Shakespeare's thirty-seven plays, and he doesn't include the sonnets or any of the five major poems. A real analysis that will tell us anything about the comparison of Shakespeare's lexicon vs. those of contemporary hip-hop artists needs to include all of the analyzed artists' written works.

I realize the time necessary for such an analysis, but it is the only way to get an accurate picture. As it is, this analysis gives us an intriguing idea that has yet to be fully realized.


message 3: by Candy (last edited May 30, 2014 05:31PM) (new)

Candy | 2557 comments Mod
I looked at this too...and sort of thought similar things as Michael. However I think it's an amazing idea for a study.

I have read both Wu-tangs and Jay-Zs books on their lexicon and symbology...they were excellent books.

http://www.amazon.com/The-Wu-Tang-Man...

http://www.amazon.com/Decoded-Jay-Z/d...


message 4: by Phil (new)

Phil Jensen | 97 comments I'm not a hip hop fan, but it is a form that emphasizes verbal fluency. Slackers (like Lil John) are mocked for having lightweight vocabularies. I find it believable that hip hop artists can come close to or even surpass the size of Shakespeare's vocabulary for an equivalent amount of text. The thing they can't top, however, is the variety and staying power of his neologisms.


message 5: by Bob (last edited Mar 29, 2016 06:49AM) (new)

Bob Zaslow | 26 comments Hello-

If you teach Shakespeare to young people, please check out my book, "Rap-Notes: Shakespeare's Greatest Hits" on amazon.com or B&N.com. And listen to a sample of each ten-minute rap, which tells the story of five of my favorite plays, on iTunes.

I'd love to read your reactions. Thanks.
Mr. Z


message 6: by Candy (new)

Candy | 2557 comments Mod
Good thoughts here...


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