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May 2014: Hunter's Claim > WTF did I just read?: Hunter's Claim (Spoilers)

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message 1: by Adelaide (last edited May 01, 2014 01:08AM) (new)

Adelaide Blair So that was just about the most ridiculous thing I have ever read, and yet some how I kind of enjoyed it. The dialogue was bad, emotions were way over the top, and the sex scenes were kind of crazy. My favorite part was when Jesse goes to an alien planet she knows nothing about to successfully rescue her mate. And the "race car with wings." And the love, oh the love. So bad it's good? As near as you can get.


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Geohyde | 22 comments I just finished it as well and it strongly reminded me of a typical romance fanfiction written by a teenage girl.

There wasn't a lot of depth to most of the characters, just about every character was paired off, there was next to no conflict within the main couple with the hardened warrior pretty much chickening out every time an argument would have started and everyone seemed completely happy that one member of the future ruling cast picked up three alien women and brought them home with him. Not even the different cultures seemed to cause much of a problem – and with the role females have in a warrior culture I would have expected some conflict there especially when Jesse basically found herself married to an alien she didn’t even know a days before. Also, nothing she did had serious consequences for her or her family. They were always saved just in the knack of time or instantly forgiven for her deeds. It was a sugary tale of happily ever after.

That said, I read through it in less than six hours and I quite enjoyed myself. After last month’s pick I rather liked reading about a female character that had everything going in her favour for once. Sure, it wasn’t the least bit realistic but sometimes realism is overrated. ;)


message 3: by Nemi (new)

Nemi I wasn't able to start this book yet, but the blurb kind of made me think of Mass Effect Fanfiction for some reason? Given some of the comments on here, I guess that hoping for those kinds of cool aliens will remain wishful thinking.


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Saron | 2 comments I felt that there was no substance to this book. After 4 long years of pain and hardship, she takes less than a week to being ok with being owned.
In comparison to a book (sevenwaters) which had lots of character development and true relationship development and allowing a young woman to overcome her hardship-this tale fails. It had great potential: alien romance with a near werecat species and a strong-willed woman. I feel as though the timeline ruined it for me. If the author had spent more time developing the relationship between Hunter and Jesse and giving Jesse's sisters the ability to disagree just once...It was hard to believe that a woman would shed the skin of 4 years of hardship in less than a month.
It was good escapist fiction, but I was sadly reminded of the poor writing style of twilight and the lack I consequences screamed teen fantasy where everyone dances into the sunset...or stars.
All that being said I read it in 3 hours and blushed happily at the first scene of romance. Learning more about their culture could have been cool too.
On to the alternate! :)


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Carolyn Cochran | 164 comments I got about 4 pages in to the book, and I just .. can't. The writing and editing is just too terrible for me to be able to concentrate on the actual story. I was excited about having a short book (and hopefully quick read) this month, too - and the reviews seems overwhelmingly good. Suspiciously good.


message 6: by Tereza (new)

Tereza This book is really bad, but hilariously so. I have already encountered alien abduction fantasy books so I was not surprised by how little thought is given to actually building a believable framework to the story. But I would wish for some sort of story outside the (presumably) hot sex.

There were actual mistakes in spelling in my kindle copy, eg. violation instead of volition. I suspect there was no editing done on the book, otherwise I can't explain why the pile of clothes in one of the sex scenes was strewn all over the floor. Unless the room was very, very small, naturally. Or the amount of unrelated darkness to voices, bodies, eyes, etc.

The story had all the emotional depth of mild porn. It was said that the characters feel something but I just couldn't picture why they would feel like that. The book felt very flat, with little to no substance and I quite agree with the commenter comparing it to teenage girl fanfiction (thanks Geohyde!)

That said I have to confess that I couldn't put the book down. I don't think it was author's intention for me to enjoy the book the way I did, but hell, I paid for it. I'm still a little undecided on whether paying money for it bothers me or not. Perhaps I would have rather bartered it for a story from my teenage atempts at writing. I think that would have been a fair trade.

Anyways, for you out there who might wish to explore this specific sub-genre I recommend this book - Close Liaisons. It is free on amazon and it at least provides a better background story. Be warned, though, the book left me intensely angry and not at all amused as Hunter's Claim did.


message 7: by Hannah (new)

Hannah Marae I'm interested in what everyone thinks about the treatment of women in this book. On the one hand you had the Trivators gushing about family and Jesse's bravery and their respect for women but on the other is the fact that Hunter married Jesse against her will and took her away from her home without giving her a choice. Saber constantly told the fifteen year old girl she 'needed her ass spanked' and there was a lot of talk about men 'not being able to help themselves.' *gag*

Also, was it ever explained just why the Trivators appeared on earth? I assume it was glossed over so that Jesse wouldn't have a reason to despise them and so she could blame her own planet for its downfall. Maybe I missed something though.


Cassandra Stryffe | 33 comments I bought the book this morning. Finished it in about two hours. And it was bad. Really really bad. That being said, I actually liked it. Of course I spent of book laughing so hard that my face now hurts, which I'm sure is not what the author intended.

But it was literally, laughably bad.


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Lori J (silkspectre) | 17 comments I really couldn't stop laughing as well, and I rolled my eyes about 50 times during this book. I agree with Hannah, women are treated awfully in this book. And all of the alien dudes had names like Razor and Dagger, it reminded me of that scene in The movie Dodgeball when Ben Stiller introduces the guys on his team as 'Blazer, Laser, ect'.


Cassandra Stryffe | 33 comments I've never seen that movie. But the names were terrible, you're right about that. And I'm not even going to mention my opinion on how the women are treated. I'd just wind up on a soapbox, ranting away like a mad woman.


I think if the author had just embraced the innate campyness (I know that's not a real word!) of the book, it might have been a whole lot better.


message 11: by Geohyde (new)

Geohyde | 22 comments Adding to my earlier comments, I have to confess that the treatment of the women in the book didn't really bother me - especially not compared to some of the other books we've read in the last few months alone. While the guys talk quite a lot none of them really follow through with those words. Hunter waits until Jesse basically throws herself at him (after how many days? *eye roll*), Saber might threaten spanking Taylor but he never does it (and I think it has more to do with him trying to push her into the "she's still a little child" corner in his mind)and for a military ship that has next to no females on board all the other warriors seem pretty tame.

In fact, I thought the sisters seemed rather self-assured for this kind of genre.


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Tegan (joggiwagga) | 276 comments I kind of want to read it b/c it sounds so ridiculous, but neither of this month's books are available through my library system, or any of the different library ebook systems I have access too. I don't think I want to read it quite bad enough to buy it with what I've been reading on the forums.


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Adelaide Blair Tegan wrote: "I kind of want to read it b/c it sounds so ridiculous, but neither of this month's books are available through my library system, or any of the different library ebook systems I have access too. I..."

It's one of those things you have to be in the mood for. I thought it was worth my $3.99 only because I needed something silly after a tiring day. And it was silly, but epically so. Some of the books we read in this club are pretty bad, but this was more fun than a lot of those. But, 4 bucks is 4 bucks, and if you are not in the mood for it, you're just not. I recommend checking it out on Amazon if you are unsure; you can either download a sample or "look inside the book" to get the flavor.


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Erin (erincrites) | 17 comments I'm glad I'm not the only one! I am one chapter in and I don't know if I can go on! The writing is so poor and repetitive and the dialogue is really bad. I was hoping that there would be some substance after the exposition heavy first chapter that would help me overlook these flaws, but from the sound of these comments perhaps that's wishful thinking.


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Natasha Silver | 3 comments I shall respond to this book with silliness. It makes me feel better that I spent the money and time.

All the aliens had the personalities of dogs, "Digger, Vince and Shredder, mush!" I wish they had physically looked as they behaved as it may of forced the sisters to react appropriately. If only they were a hi-tech alien invading animalistic race. A truley other being that that the sisters could unravel and befriend. The sex would of been alot more intriguing!

I could go on and on, but I wont. I'm more interested if anyone else has specific plot points or characters they wished happened to make this book more satisfying? A new thread perhaps?


Cassandra Stryffe | 33 comments *Spoilers*!


I wish the author hadn't just brushed off the ONE thing that might have book a little better. At one point Hunter wondered if their whole society had the wrong idea about the way they handled first contacting other worlds. And then he just decided to go screw Jesse instead of continuing that line of thought.

Could have had all sorts of interesting things resulting from that thought, but noooo....It only led to "Me gonna go smell woman! Huh!"


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Natasha Silver | 3 comments Cassandra wrote: "*Spoilers*!


I wish the author hadn't just brushed off the ONE thing that might have book a little better. At one point Hunter wondered if their whole society had the wrong idea about the way th..."


Yes I agree, I mainly found it frustrating as there were possible conflicts but the easy option was always taken. Perhaps the culture/ethics of invasion/cross species breeding etc will have implications in later books.


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PointyEars42 | 476 comments Natasha wrote: "I wish they had physically looked as they behaved as it may of forced the sisters to react appropriately.If only they were a hi-tech alien invading animalistic race. A truley other being that that the sisters could unravel and befriend. The sex would of been alot more intriguing!

If you're seriously looking for a book in that vein, you must give The Last Hour of Gann a try. Human/alien first contact; romance only after having to unravel the thinking & behaviour of 2 very different species; sex only after figuring how all the differing body parts work... and it can stand alone without the romance as a science fiction 1st contact novel. (Trigger warning for rape & slavery - although both are contextual and understandable and not gratuitous and are NOT used to force any personality growth - and length (its >400,000 words/ 900ish pages). The treatment of differing religions was wonderful, the hero was swoon-worthy, the writing was great... and did I mention that the humans are the odd-looking aliens in this book? Yeah.


message 19: by Alicia (new)

Alicia Wow - an alien culture that is just like ours! I'm going to make pizza for the neighbour's kids before I go perform surgery, disguise myself as the enemy, pull out some Ninja moves and then win a Pulitzer Prize!

http://www.interrobangstudios.com/com...


message 20: by Joanna (last edited May 02, 2014 09:37AM) (new)

Joanna | 33 comments *Spoilers*

This was one of the worst books I've ever read guys. It's badly written, the dialogue is completely unbelievable (no contractions? Why? What is this a graduate thesis?). The alien worlds had NO description to speak of, it's basically America: In Outer Space! The aliens understand perfect English, including all colloquialisms perfectly, also, it's so easy to find ingredients to make pizza in an alien world y'all!

Also, spoiler but... umm she got pregnant by an alien? No worries about whether that's even possible or even maybe dangerous to Jesse?

And yes, I did finish it. More because it was a train wreck and I could not look away. I rolled my eyes so hard I had a headache when I was done. I can't wait for the girls to tear this piece of crap apart!


message 21: by Alicia (new)

Alicia Joanna wrote: "*Spoilers*

Also, spoiler but... umm she got pregnant by an alien? No worries about whether that's even possible or even maybe dangerous to Jesse? ..."


Well, after a passing thought that he had to be careful not to hurt her, they weren't remotely worried about a 7' tall alien having pretty vigorous sex with a woman repeatedly described as "small", so why fret about a little thing like species compatibility?


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Ative | 9 comments *spoilers*

Guys, did any one of you laugh at "He had a family. It was small and strange but it was his..."? Because it sounds just like that quote from Stitch.
And yes, the book was horrible, which is a shame, because the idea at the beginning seemed interesting enough. I really wanted it to get better.


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Katie (ilovebettymcrae) | 36 comments Saron wrote: "I felt that there was no substance to this book. After 4 long years of pain and hardship, she takes less than a week to being ok with being owned.
In comparison to a book (sevenwaters) which had l..."


I thought Jesse's "giving up" with earth was explained well.. But yes, it was definitely too easy to win over Jesse and turn her from a constant protector to a constant protectee.. I think a lot of that was just her admiring Hunter's form and his gentleness though and her sexual drive sayin' hey. Jesse never actually turned into the kind of person who wouldn't go save her family and fight for the people she loved. She just realized that maybe Earth was worse than anything else given the current state of things.

Even though this book was rather simple, I did always have the impression that if Jesse decided she didn't really like Hunter anymore, her and her sisters would just inject some needles and hop a hover-craft to anywhere-but-here. The book was funny that way.


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Katie (ilovebettymcrae) | 36 comments The only thing I can truly compare this book to is videogames and shows like Star-Crossed. It's a world put together on-the-fly and you just gotta go with it to enjoy it. There is definitely potential for this world (especially the alien planet of jumalalaland) to be built-up and shaped into something a lot more complex but as it stands now it's rather simple, it tells a story, it has it's themes, and it's doin' the things other stories do but in a NOT SO AMAZING sort of way.

I am always skeptical of any story where the aliens look almost exactly like humans because ew, lame, why? no. give them powers and stuff... bigger muscles, tattoes, and semi-lion face does not count as "different." *DID YOU HEAR ME STAR-CROSSED?!*

WHY DID HE BITE HER DURING SEX? WAS THAT A VAMPIRE THING? WHAT EVEN?

I want to read a whole book about Jordan. How the heck did Jordan figure that crap out about Dagger McStabby Friend? What the heck?! Jordan is now Cosima and I must know everything about her.

Yeah... I found this book amusing...

I did hate that the whole planet Earth turned into planet rapey. Not sure why the girls would want to live there or why they hadn't found there way to the cabin yet. How could anyone conduct school on planet rapey?! What was that? How was their school even held? No social services anymore?

I'm confused... The book confused me.

The whole, he can't jack-off thing was hilarious and odd. Why wouldn't he just do it anyway? Where did he think his sperm was going to go? Is there going to be a later book where someone does that and someone else steals the sperm and it's A BETRAYALLLLLLLL?

Also, what's with all the rape and the animal-like feramones? All the men jumping to join-in on the sexy times when Hunter and Jesse first kissed? Is this going to be one of those stories? Is this going to eventually be mass-orgy's because they made it sound like once you get an AMATE no one can A-MATE with that AMATE and yet all those guys were ready to just jump Jesse... and also in the beginning it seemed that the aliens were also really rapey so why? Why can the aliens be rapey but also have these high standards about tattoo time?

There are a lot of questions to be asked about this story... Which is fun since it was such a short book.

I liked how the girls were so crafty and how Jesse saved Hunter more than once and saved Saber. I really did like that about it. I liked that all the men were like "silly strong women and their silly strong ways" *shakes head forever* it was kind of the opposite of "boys will be boys" in that it was like "Oh you women with your guns and murder and survivin' it all." *chuckles*

It was a strange story.

I don't know what else to say.

I am confused.


message 25: by Alicia (new)

Alicia Ative wrote: "*spoilers*

Guys, did any one of you laugh at "He had a family. It was small and strange but it was his..."? "


I didn't laugh, because I didn't recognise it. I just thought it was weird that with all that emphasis on having a family, it turns out he has really involved parents and rafts of siblings. I thought they'd been playing an orphan card for him too.


message 26: by Felicia, Grand Duchess (new)

Felicia (feliciaday) | 740 comments Mod
PointyEars42 wrote: "Natasha wrote: "I wish they had physically looked as they behaved as it may of forced the sisters to react appropriately.If only they were a hi-tech alien invading animalistic race. A truley other ..."

FOR THE RECORD, Gann was Veronica's first choice for next month, and I felt that the rape themes would be a bad followup given last month's choices. SO just defending her a little haha


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Lori J (silkspectre) | 17 comments Felicia wrote: "PointyEars42 wrote: "Natasha wrote: "I wish they had physically looked as they behaved as it may of forced the sisters to react appropriately.If only they were a hi-tech alien invading animalistic ..."

There was a lot of sexual assault in this book, too, though - particularly when they were on earth, it seemed like the author just threw it in because she wanted to create peril that the girls needed to be rescued from, which annoyed me quite a bit. Gann sounds like a better book, even though I'm pretty tired of reading books with women being attacked.


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Jessica | 27 comments Was I the only person that was visualizing the Na'vi in this thing? But like, a misogynistic, obnoxious species of them?
How, How, How did it never occur to these creatures that the planets they go to might be better off without them, when there is literally war on every planet they show up on?
Why, why, why do they keeping putting these three guys together for missions when they apparently get captured on a fairly consistent basis?

And can we talk about the fact that the main character who has been in survival mode for years, literally took off to an unknown planet where she can't even be sure that SHE CAN BREATH THE AIR? But she's plucky, which causes all the men-folk to smile at her in patient amusement when she tries to flex her little kitten claws, so it's cool.


message 29: by Alicia (new)

Alicia Jessica wrote: "Was I the only person that was visualizing the Na'vi in this thing? ..."

Tails might have been more interesting. I was picturing Worf from Star Trek.


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Katie (ilovebettymcrae) | 36 comments Jessica wrote: "Was I the only person that was visualizing the Na'vi in this thing? But like, a misogynistic, obnoxious species of them?
How, How, How did it never occur to these creatures that the planets they..."


I did find myself picturing the na'vi at one point!


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Crisp (crispi) | 120 comments This was just Terribly written -


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Crisp (crispi) | 120 comments Argh damn ipad app.

I was going to say that I don't think the author bothered at all with trying to craft a good story. Full of cliches and skimmed-over plot points and horrible dialog that reminded me of poor Amidala and Anakin's scenes in Episode II. Never mind even making a token attempt at the world being believable. Jesse goes from looking at Hunter as a stranger to hugging him and then sexing him in what felt like one day? And her taking care of her sisters on earth translate to her being able to survive on alien territory? I really tried but couldn't accept such a stretch - like trying to span the Grand Canyon with a string of panties knotted together.

After reading this I was so dissatisfied I went surfing on amazon and found a much better written book: Heroic Abduction by Eve Langlais. Much better crafted, very humorous, tongue-in-cheek take on the alien romance angle. Clearly written with an awareness of how ridiculous it is but who-cares-this-is-an-alien-scifi-romp-in-space with lots of pretty raunchy sexy times.


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Gretchen (gretchen_bens) | 41 comments I read this book pretty fast-- and at the end I just kept wondering? Is there some magical part that I missed where humans and aliens are ridiculously genetically compatible? The main couple got pregnant faster than most people I know that have tried. And there was no medical worry from any character over the health of babu or mom. Maybe they have some uber-technology that fixed everything, which the author forgot to mention it?


Cassandra Stryffe | 33 comments Crispina wrote: like trying to span the Grand Canyon with a string of panties knotted together.

O.O

I'm totally stealing that saying.


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Lori J (silkspectre) | 17 comments Jessica wrote: "Was I the only person that was visualizing the Na'vi in this thing? But like, a misogynistic, obnoxious species of them?
How, How, How did it never occur to these creatures that the planets they..."


I just remembered the air thing! I was thinking that as I was reading the book!


message 36: by Nemi (new)

Nemi I kind of smiled to myself at all the XTRMELY BADASS names. It just kind of seemed a bit juvenile. I guess that's the problem with having names in a language the reader can actually understand. I think I would have preferred made up names or at least names with the same meaning but sourced from a dead language?


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Lori J (silkspectre) | 17 comments Nemi wrote: "I kind of smiled to myself at all the XTRMELY BADASS names. It just kind of seemed a bit juvenile. I guess that's the problem with having names in a language the reader can actually understand. I t..."

Exactly, like they could've used their alien language for names - they have that word 'Amate' (which is a really badly veiled mish-mash of 'a mate') but still. Why would they use English to name alien creatures that hadn't been in contact with humans until recently?


message 38: by Nemi (last edited May 04, 2014 12:07PM) (new)

Nemi Amate could also be a bastardization of the Italian word amante, meaning lover. At least that was my first thought. *is Italian*
But yeah, as some people mentioned here and in the other threads the whole concept of this alien species is a bit... lacking? To me the Garrus romance in Mass Effect was a good middle ground between being alien and being familiar.
Also: Claiming someone while they are unconcious. Very classy, Hunter.


message 39: by Hannah (new)

Hannah Marae What about how throughout the whole story everyone's treating Hunter as a normal 'person' when he really happens to be a member of the royalty or whatever?? It really seems like she just threw that in there in the end. No one treated him any different and they seemed far from concerned when he was missing on the other alien planet.

Wouldn't an alien prince have some rules in picking a mate? I find it hard to believe his parents were cool with him shacking up with a random earth girl. >.<


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Kamil | 938 comments Hannah wrote: "What about how throughout the whole story everyone's treating Hunter as a normal 'person' when he really happens to be a member of the royalty or whatever?? It really seems like she just threw that..."

They're a war-like species, right? so the royalty would be made of the strongest, am I right? If Hunter couldn't handle an alien planet, he wouldn't be fit for the position he has in their society. And Hunter sound more like a battlename.


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Cas (elventempest) | 90 comments Yeah, nothing against men with names like blade and hunter, but it's not... comforting. I really wanted to enjoy this because I've been looking for an alien human romance for YEARS, that isn't gross. And... I never find it... I just want a book that is between this and the last pick. Like anywhere between scary and sad, and bad and awkward.


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Frakki Karu | 509 comments The men in the book tried to treat the sister badly, but in truth they didn't. The sisters stood up against any action to treat them as property and/or control their behavior.

The Thundercats (name snerched from drinking game thread) were such adorable male chauvinist piggy cats. How could you not want to roll the over and rub their bellies until they were putty in your hands?


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Jo | 69 comments When I heard the names I immediately thought they were carrying on the cat theme. They seemed like the names the kids would give the family cats.


message 44: by Nemi (new)

Nemi Erin wrote: "When I heard the names I immediately thought they were carrying on the cat theme. They seemed like the names the kids would give the family cats."

Please tell me that one of the most badass warriors is called Mittens.


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Julie England (tehluhlah) | 13 comments Yeah, I tried really hard to find something to like about this book and I failed. Soooo over the top and not sci-fi at all, really. The hero and his friends were way too alpha for my taste, and the love scenes were kind of weird. Worst VF pick for me so far, but I've skipped some of the others that got bad ratings ;-)


message 46: by Frakki (last edited May 05, 2014 06:51PM) (new)

Frakki Karu | 509 comments I think that this has become the official discussion thread.

This is about the third book I've read that didn't allow men to self-pleasure themselves after finding their mate. It makes me think of two things;

- they are writing this for women who are sick of their partners always jerking off
- the song "Every Sperm Is Sacred"

Just downloaded The Last Hour Of Gann. Hopes are high.


message 47: by Alicia (new)

Alicia Is Gann the one that had the big following a few years ago with men looking for real life slave girls?


Cassandra Stryffe | 33 comments Alicia wrote: "Is Gann the one that had the big following a few years ago with men looking for real life slave girls?"

I think those were "Gor" As in 'Priest-Kings of Gor', 'Warrior or Gor', Captive of Gor' I had the misfortune to read one of them once, and please just trust me that they're just not worth it.


message 49: by Alicia (new)

Alicia Cassandra wrote:

I think those were "Gor" As in 'Priest-Kings of Gor', 'Warrior or Gor', Ca..."


Oh yes! I think you are right.


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Any (zanya) | 9 comments I found the story interesting and quite enjoyed it, though it could've been a bit better written; since the book is fantasy/sci-fi I'm not going to hold it to the same standards that I would hold a drama book (with being realistic). It is the first fantasy romance I've read so I'm not sure how the others hold up compared to this one.


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