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Rosemarie wrote: "I nominate The Odd Women by George Gissing. Originally published in 1893,"
The Odd Woman
The Odd Woman
Here is a description of The Odd Women. From the back cover:
In its fierce criticism of a society that encouraged the oppression of women and consequently the arrogance and cruelty of men, The Odd Women was astonishingly ahead of its time and vividly reminds us that feminism is not a new concern. It is also an unflinching examination of the dliemma of choosing between one's desires and one's principles.
I have not read this novel, but I have read another novel by Gissing. The "odd women" are spinsters, i.e. women without husbands.
In its fierce criticism of a society that encouraged the oppression of women and consequently the arrogance and cruelty of men, The Odd Women was astonishingly ahead of its time and vividly reminds us that feminism is not a new concern. It is also an unflinching examination of the dliemma of choosing between one's desires and one's principles.
I have not read this novel, but I have read another novel by Gissing. The "odd women" are spinsters, i.e. women without husbands.


In its fierce criticism of a society that encouraged the oppression of women and consequently the arrogance and cruelty of men, The Od..."
Woman
Sounds similar to Hardy's themes

I second Esther Waters. Would love to read it.


Woman
People could end up with the wrong book.
Rochelle wrote: "Abigail wrote: "I’ll second The Odd Women. Sounds like a good companion read to one of my favorite classics, Lolly Willowes."
Woman
People could end up with the wrong book."V
Post number 5 has link to book
Woman
People could end up with the wrong book."V
Post number 5 has link to book

I just finished this one and it's a terrific read! I highly recommend it.

Fathers and Sons was nominated last month (not by me), and did well, but didn't win.
So, I'm going to nominate it again.

Woman
People could end up with the wrong book."V
Post number 5 has link to book ."
If the intention was, as I assume it was, to nominate the George Gissing book, then the link in Post 5 is to a bad edition of the book with the wrong title. It actually IS The Odd Women. Here's a link to a correct copy of it (Oxford World's Classics). I've read it -- it's a fine book about several odd women. I won't say more about why they're odd since that would be a spoiler, but
The Odd Women

There is a book with the title The Odd Woman, but it's by Gail Godwin who was born in 1937 and is way outside our time period.
Everyman wrote: "Deborah wrote: "Rochelle wrote: "Abigail wrote: "I’ll second The Odd Women. Sounds like a good companion read to one of my favorite classics, Lolly Willowes."
Woman
People could end up with the w..."
Weird because I chose Gissing when I created link
Woman
People could end up with the w..."
Weird because I chose Gissing when I created link
A similar thing happened when I requested a book from the library. I expected a certain book and got a different one altogether--same title, different author.

Oops, I'm sorry, I fell in the hole, and I owe 2 of you an apology.
Books in the GR main catalog are submitted by members, so can be imperfect. I've found some weird stuff like the same edition under several names, and writers of the foreword listed as authors, which is very common. There's an Editors Group where you can submit errors in the catalog without having to join that group. I'll look for the URL.

https://www.goodreads.com/group/searc...
Rosemarie: at a library, I'm surprised, since they still use the Dewey call numbers even though the card catalogs are gone. They're using more volunteers these days to cut back on paid staff.
My daughter works at one of the 100 branches of the Toronto Public Library. From what she tells me, some employees pay more attention to detail than others. In libraries, details are important.
Rochelle wrote: "Deborah wrote: "Weird because I chose Gissing when I created link ."
Oops, I'm sorry, I fell in the hole, and I owe 2 of you an apology.
Books in the GR main catalog are submitted by members, so..."
No apologies needed
Oops, I'm sorry, I fell in the hole, and I owe 2 of you an apology.
Books in the GR main catalog are submitted by members, so..."
No apologies needed

Don't know whether you consider me one of the two, but if so, no apology at all is needed.

https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/...

Turns out GR has gotten its book list from Amazon, not the other way around. The tens of thousands of errors that the Librarians fix are from Amazon's catalog. Looks like, by buying GR, Amazon got some 15,000 workers who don't have to be paid.
Rochelle wrote: "I'll always remember this book, even if we don't read it. :-(
Turns out GR has gotten its book list from Amazon, not the other way around. The tens of thousands of errors that the Librarians fix ..."
Wow. That's pretty nasty.
Turns out GR has gotten its book list from Amazon, not the other way around. The tens of thousands of errors that the Librarians fix ..."
Wow. That's pretty nasty.

Wow. That's pretty nasty. "
About as nasty as the poverty wages they pay their own workers and the work load they expect from them. They undersell everyone for the same reason that Walmart does.
My error, it's 58,000 Librarians although in practice, not everyone who joins just to make a correction, like me, is a Librarian.

Renominating Hardy's Wessex Tales.
Has anyone else seen this reading of Hardy's letter regarding critics?
https://www.goodreads.com/videos/2808...

Has anyone else seen this reading of Hardy's letter regarding critics?
https://www.goodreads.com/videos/2808..."
Very interesting letter. It's seldom we see Hardy's humorous side coming out, but this is something that Mark Twain could have written.

Anything by Hardy is worth seconding, though I would have chosen one of the novels rather than the stories. But I'll happily support it anyhow. It's Hardy!!

According to the "read" bookshelf, the only one we've done is Jude. And, of course, A Pair of Blue Eyes.
Looking at the Archives folder, we didn't do any in 2014, or in 2013, or in 2012. I didn't go further back than that because there are a lot of new faces here who might be interested in reading books even if they were done before 2012.
Rochelle wrote: "May I make a 2nd nomination?"
Rochelle That's up to Silver. If you want, nominate your second book and indicate which one you would choose between the two. Silver then has the option of including both or using the one which is most important to you.
Rochelle That's up to Silver. If you want, nominate your second book and indicate which one you would choose between the two. Silver then has the option of including both or using the one which is most important to you.

I will allow a 2nd nomination and when it is time for the poll I will decide based on how many nominations we have whether or not to use both nominations.
So as Deborah states please let me know your top choice.

Rosemarie wrote: "How do I get to the poll link on an Ipad?"
Rosemarie go to the main page and scroll down. It will be near bottom of page
Rosemarie go to the main page and scroll down. It will be near bottom of page
I can't find it. Is there an email link you can give me? I have an ipad mini and have issues finding things at times. I am still discovering new functions every day.
Hi, again. In one of my other groups I was able to access the poll through the link on the thread(in the comments).

Here is a link to the poll, hopefully it helps.
https://www.goodreads.com/poll/list/3...
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Please nominate the book you would like to read for our April group read.
You will have until the end of the month to nominate so Feb. 29 will be the last day for nominations.