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All This and More by Mary Karr (22nd February, 2016)
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To be honest, I'd never heard of Karr before, though I looked on Wikipedia, and she's received many rewards in addition to writing 3 books of poetry and a national bestseller memoir (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_...). She also wrote a treatise on poetic style "Against Decoration."
It seems this is about a near death experience, and not the happy tunnel of white light kind! One of my offline friends actually claims to have had one of those. Very creepy! The poem is quite vivid and direct. I found it quite affecting!
It seems this is about a near death experience, and not the happy tunnel of white light kind! One of my offline friends actually claims to have had one of those. Very creepy! The poem is quite vivid and direct. I found it quite affecting!


About this poem: This being the near death experience sheds much light on the poem. In fact, I was not aware of it till you mentioned. I thought of this poem as the last moment examination of one's own life. It is always better to live a good life in order to avoid bad memories at the end of one's own life. But connecting this poem with the near death experience enlarges the reading. The last line gets a completely new meaning. Thanks.
@Leslie: 'sort of evil Lazarus' - in a sense we are all evil Lazarus. We all claw back to life avoiding all that was unpleasant. Being a near death experience (chiming in with Greg) this expression (evil Lazarus) sits very pretty and apt.
@ Diane: "Gives one something to think about for sure." Can not contradict you. Completely agree.

I find the juxtaposition of your blossoming cherry tree icon with the snowman in your name interesting!

Now I might be entirely wrong, but reading this poem again after this interview really altered my view on it, and made a lot of sense in the context of someone describing there own personal hell of addiction and the Doppelgänger it had turned them into.
Jenny wrote: "So I've read this for the third time now, cause I am equally fascinated and puzzled by this. And then I stumbled upon an interview in which she talks about how she recovered from alcohol and drug a..."
That's interesting Jenny - perhaps it's a metaphorical near death experience then. She's clawing her way back to life from her own personal hell. I like that reading.
When I first read it, I'd assumed: the narrator of the poem had gotten near death (or perhaps for a few moments actually died - on the operating table or whatever). Then during these moments of "death", she'd experienced a glimpse of the afterlife, in her case hell instead of the white tunnel of light happy experience some people claim to have. Then she struggled back to life, remembering those awful images that she'd seen when she was near death. Incidentally, a friend of mine actually claims to have had one of those negative near death experiences - I won't let her tell me about it too much though because it really freaks me out!!!
But I agree with you - the poem reads equally well treating this 'hell' as all metaphoric, an expression of an extremely destructive mental state that she clawed back from.
That's interesting Jenny - perhaps it's a metaphorical near death experience then. She's clawing her way back to life from her own personal hell. I like that reading.
When I first read it, I'd assumed: the narrator of the poem had gotten near death (or perhaps for a few moments actually died - on the operating table or whatever). Then during these moments of "death", she'd experienced a glimpse of the afterlife, in her case hell instead of the white tunnel of light happy experience some people claim to have. Then she struggled back to life, remembering those awful images that she'd seen when she was near death. Incidentally, a friend of mine actually claims to have had one of those negative near death experiences - I won't let her tell me about it too much though because it really freaks me out!!!
But I agree with you - the poem reads equally well treating this 'hell' as all metaphoric, an expression of an extremely destructive mental state that she clawed back from.

Karr's specialty also rests on her courageous take on modern world (material world) in its own language. The use of the image of TV and the feature presentations in it to drive home a point is a clear example present in this poem.
Dhanaraj wrote: "Karr's specialty also rests on her courageous take on modern world (material world) in its own language. The use of the image of TV and the feature presentations in it to drive home a point is a clear example present in this poem. .."
I agree Dhanaraj! In her essay "Against Decoration," it sounds like she's agruing for a less artificial poetry more diectly from modern life as it is, less "fuzzy" as she calls it. I can certainly see that in the poem.
I agree Dhanaraj! In her essay "Against Decoration," it sounds like she's agruing for a less artificial poetry more diectly from modern life as it is, less "fuzzy" as she calls it. I can certainly see that in the poem.

Here is a different poem by her that reveals all the more her style. Check this out if interested. The poem is titled as THE OBSCENITY PRAYER. The link: http://www.poetryfoundation.org/poetr...
The Devil's tour of hell did not include
a factory line where molten lead
spilled into mouths held wide,
no electric drill spiraling screws
into hands and feet, nor giant pliers
to lower you into simmering vats.
Instead, a circle of light
opened on your stuffed armchair,
whose chintz orchids did not boil and change,
and the Devil adjusted
your new spiked antennae
almost delicately, with claws curled
and lacquered black, before he spread
his leather wings to leap
into the acid-green sky.
So your head became a tv hull,
a gargoyle mirror. Your doppelganger
sloppy at the mouth
and swollen at the joints
enacted your days in sinuous
slow motion, your lines delivered
with a mocking sneer. Sometimes
the frame froze, reversed, began
again: the red eyes of a friend
you cursed, your girl child cowered
behind the drapes, parents alive again
and puzzled by this new form. That's why
you clawed your way back to this life.