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James Morcan | 11246 comments When Muammar Gaddafi was known to have doubles ala Saddam and other world leaders, how do we know the Gaddafi they say they killed was the real Gaddafi? :)

Is anyone else suspicious or am I just crazy?


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James Morcan | 11246 comments HOW MANY OF GADDAFI’S DOUBLES DID THEY ACTUALY KILL? -- http://libyasos.blogspot.com.au/2011/...

ANALYSING ‘GADDAFI’S KILLED’ VIDEOS:
1. On the videos which were allegedly recorded in Sirte, sun is shining, dust everywhere.. however ,in reality,just a day before -Sirte was FLOODED.

2. In two different parts of the same video..we can see that the ‘Colonel’ has two different hair colors.. in one part he has light-brown hair, in the other he has black hair.

3. In one of the videos ‘dead Colonel’ has bumpy nose, looks broken in a strange way, in other videos where this man is dead, his nose is straight

4. In the early videos (from Sirte) his face looks very young, and we all know how wrinkled he was.

Moammar Al Gaddafi ?
5. They said that he was shot in the legs, and that he bled to death.. but this captured ‘Colonel’ is standing while they are pushing him around. In addition, lower part of the body is not covered with blood.

6. Naked uper part of body of the ‘Colonel’ is young, with no signs of aging in the videos, but real Colonel is a 70 years old man. Do you know how the body of a 70 years old man looks like, especialy of a man who have spent all his life in a desert.

7. Some of the released videos were recorded a day before, on 19th of october (!!)

8. According to one of their propaganda stories, they found ‘him’ in a sewer. And yet ‘he’ appears freshly shaven, his beard trimmed on the videos etc..

9. There is another strange detail in the video in Sirte also, one black woman- a civilian- stands and watches the show , seeming very relaxed. A black civilian woman in Sirte on the side of the rats (!?). This is impossible. Everyone knows what NATO Al Qaeda rats are doing to black men, women and children in Libya. They hang, lynch and behead them. Especialy Sirte black women, IF there are ANY left in Sirte (which I highly doubt) would never be on the side of the racist rats. This is realy strange.

10. On one video Gaddafi is covered with blood when they are placing him on a pick-up, on another with the same ‘action’ his face is clean like he is headed to a wedding.

11. Fact: Massive demonstrations against NATO and NTC were being prepared, unified counter-attack, uprising has already started on 14th of october.

Moammar Al Gaddafi?

12. Just days after Hilary came and said she wants Gaddafi dead, ‘he’ got killed.

13. Not just him, his sons and every high-official person they could remember of ‘got killed on the same day IN SIRTE’, although it is known that Gaddafi and his sons were leading different brigades at different fronts around Libya. (note: Libya is the size of 1/3 of Europe, and Sirte is just one small town which was for months under siege)

14. Gaddafi’s daughter Aisha says he is alive.

15. Gaddafi has 12 doubles.


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James Morcan | 11246 comments MI6 HELPED GADDAFI ESCAPE FROM LIBYA? -- http://aangirfan.blogspot.com.au/2013...

On 27 September 2013, The Daily Telegraph reveals the MI6 plot to help Gaddafi escape from Libya http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknew...

According to The Telegraph:

1. The plan was drawn up at the highest levels of the British Government.

2. Andrew Mitchell, a UK government minister, was sent to make certain contacts with the government of Equatorial Guinea.



3. There has always been speculation that Gaddafi left Libya around October 2011, the time when Gaddafi was allegedly killed.

4. Matthew d'Ancona, a top journalist at The Telegraph, interviewed key UK government figures.


"CIA agent Edwin P. Wilson recruited Gadaffi in 1977, and the CIA shipped Libya over 2000 pounds of explosives," says former CIA agent Lester Coleman. (DIA Agent's Book, Trail of the Octopus - From Beirut To Lockerbie.)

According to The Telegraph:

5. In 2011, MI6 prepared to move Gaddafi to Equatorial Guinea, which does not recognise the International Criminal Court.

6. The Cabinet Office and MI6 "prepared an exit strategy for Gaddafi in case it was necessary to strike a deal and to end the conflict."

7. UK cabinet minister Andrew Mitchell "was able to assist the officials tasked with these delicate contingency plans, helping make the necessary contacts in the capital, Malabo, and elsewhere".

Equatorial Guinea "was chosen as a prospective retirement home".


Top Freemasons. GADDAFI'S CIA CONNECTIONS

According to The Telegraph:

8. In 2004, Old Etonian Simon Mann made an unsuccessful coup attempt in Equatorial Guinea.

The 'Wonga Coup' failed after the mercenaries were arrested in Zimbabwe.

9. It is believed that some of the mercenaries involved in the Equatorial Guinea coup were also involved in the attempt to help Gaddafi escape.

MI6 plot to help Gaddafi escape from Libya


A Mansion in Harare.

"Sibanengi Dube ... is ... adamant that Zimbabwe’s airforce, in August 2011, flew Muammar Gaddafi into Zimbabwe and that Gaddafi was seen in a Harare Gunhill suburb house."

(MDC journalist still claims Gaddafi went to Zimbabwe)

"Gaddafi staged a nocturnal entry into Zimbabwe aboard a Zimbabwe Air force jet that landed at Suri-Suri Airbase in Chegutu....


Gaddafi with David Berg whose name has been linked to pedophilia and the CIA's MK ULTRA brainwashing. (RELIGIOUS MIND-CONTROL CULTS)

"Gaddafi was quickly whisked to a sprawling mansion in Harare’s Gunhill suburb under the cover of darkness with members of MDC VAA in a secret pursuit.

"We kept a hawk’s eye on the house ... and we don’t doubt even for a second that the fallen despot is now a ‘unique guest’ to Robert Mugabe.

"The house is encircled by uniformed army personnel of the Zimbabwe National Army and is swarming with plain clothes policemen and dreaded CIO operatives.

"They said all indications were confirming what they saw, including heavily armed female blonde body guards of Libyan origin patrolling around the house where the former despot is holed up...

(It's Official: Col Muammar Gaddafi Is In Zimbabwe - The Mutare Times)


Gaddafi Double

The SteveLendmanBlog points out the Mixed Messages on Gaddafi:

1. Leaders at times have doubles.

Saddam reportedly had 12. To this day, it's not clear if he or a double was executed.

Gaddafi also had them. Was one of them killed, not him?


Above - a body from the so called 'bin Laden' house in Abbottabad.


Same body used by the CIA to represent Gaddafi.

2. On October 21, Mathaba.net headlined, "Qaddafi Not Dead,"saying:

Washington, Britain and France desperately needed something resembling victory, even if fake, not real.

http://www.progressiveradionetwork.co....


The real Gaddafi

The man seen in the 'Gaddafi capture videos' is not Gaddafi.

The man in the videos is Ali Majid Al Andalus.

The person you were shown was not Muammar Al-Gaddafi /Originally published here


Gaddafi Double

"According to reports reaching us, the person presented as Gaddafi, in the recent 'capture' videos, has been identified as Ali Majid Al Andalus.

"Ali Majid Al Andalus was an inhabitant of Sirte and was famous for his resemblance to Gaddafi.

"The man in the photo with the bullet hole in the head was not Muammar al Gaddafi, but his double.

"The psychopathic criminals ... used this innocent man solely for their psychological operation by having him lynched by armed thugs of the TNC before the cameras."

Mathaba Libya News


Mystery man Gaddafi - Website for this image.

Gaddafi was apparently put into power by MI6 and the CIA.

The CIA and its friends controlled many people in Gaddafi's Libya.

From The Africa Report (Libya: Who owns the revolution? - The Africa Report):

The CIA's clandestine supporters made it easy for NATO to take over Tripoli.

"According to Brigadier General Abdulsalam Alhasi, who commanded the rebel's headquarters in Benghazi, the role of the clandestine supporters - soldiers, policemen, intelligence officers and even ministers who had been working for Gaddafi - was critical in taking Tripoli."

In other words, it wasn't just Gaddafi, or his double, who had worked for the CIA and MI6.

(Was Britain Behind Gadaffi's Coup in 1969?)


The CIA's Marty Martin, who had a plan for Gaddafi to leave Libya, reportedly.

The CIA's Marty Martin led the CIA's Qaeda department from 2002 to 2004

The CIA's Marty Martin was part of a US group that offered Gaddafi a $10m deal to flee Libya

The group included a Belgian named Dirk Borgers, Neil C Livingstone a terrorism specialist who wants to be governor of Montana, Neil S. Alpert who has worked for the Republican National Committee and the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, and Randell K. Wood, a Kansas City lawyer.

GADDAFI DOUBLE WAS KILLED / WHERE'S GADDAFI?


Gaddafi

The CIA put Nasser into power in Egypt and put Saddam into power in Iraq and put the Ayatollahs into power in Iran.

(GADDAFI, SADDAM AND THE CIA / NASSER OF THE CIA/
IRAN IS RUN BY THE CIA)

There is a belief that it was the CIA and Britain's MI6 who put Gaddafi into power in 1969.

According to the article entitled: Was Britain Behind Gadaffi's Coup in 1969?:

A secret 1960 US National Security Council Report explained: "There is little loyalty to him (British puppet King Idris) among the younger urban elements who do not have significant political power now, but who will have such power in the future."

The US and UK needed a replacement for King Idris and apparently chose Gaddafi.


Reportedly, this is a Gaddafi mansion in New Jersey in the USA

In 1965, Britain's Colonel Ted Lough reportedly made a series of reports on Gadaffi for British intelligence.

In 1966, Gaddafi spent four months in Britain, training with the British military.

In 1969, Gaddafi carried out a peaceful coup, apparently with the blessing of the USA and UK.

Gaddafi turned Libya from being the poorest country in the world into being the most prosperous country in Africa.

But, he did not always cooperate with his CIA backers.


Preziosi and Gaddafi

Does Gaddafi have Corsican roots?: Voice of Russia

Muammar Gaddafi may be the son of French Air Force officer Albert Preziosi.

There is a close likeness between Albert Preziosi and a young Muammar Gaddafi.

In 1941, pilot Albert Preziosi made an emergency landing in a Libyan desert.

He came across a tribe of Bedouins.

Reportedly, after Preziosi had a relationship with a women of the tribe, Muammar Gaddafi was born on 19 June 1942.

The French airbase used for recent operations against Libya is officially called BA-126 Captain Preziosi. Located in Upper Corsica, it is named after Captain Albert Preziosi.


message 4: by Thiago (last edited Feb 13, 2016 06:55PM) (new)

Thiago S. (thiagos) James, I would love to agree with you, but unfortunately I'm pretty sure that the Brother Colonel was killed by the scum.

Ive collected a lot of material, watched hours of his videos, and until I saw the footage of him captured and being beaten, I believed that his death was another hoax of that dirty campaign. But when I saw it I became very sad and disturbed, and there were moments that he, at least for me, was perfect recognizable. It must have been a hell of a great double, almost a clone.

But at the end of day, its more comfortable to think that this man really picked his destiny. He died like a martyr as he predicted and look death in her eyes. That guy had balls.


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James Morcan | 11246 comments Thiago wrote: "James, I would love to agree with you, but unfortunately I'm pretty sure that the Brother Colonel was killed by the scum.

Ive collected a lot of material, watched hours of his videos, and until I ..."


Clones cannot be discounted, Thiago!
Remember that book/movie The Boys from Brazil? Fiction, but could be inspired by something, you never know...

But seriously you could be right, although it does seem like Gaddafi had a hell of a lot of connections to the CIA and MI6...

Am equally suspicious about Saddam's and Osama's "deaths"...


message 6: by Thiago (last edited Feb 13, 2016 07:14PM) (new)

Thiago S. (thiagos) I cant even accept that CIA put him on the throne in 1969. Some of the facts you listed above remember me the story of Obama birthplace issue: a decoy raised to divert the attention in order to dismiss some serious issues that could be raised about the subject.

The part of Guinea is the more credible... but again, I dont believe that wasnt him in the videos. And, after all, I cant see why West would help him. They didnt need to. It was indeed more interesting to see him dead. Nicolas Sarkozy, as an example, allegedly was very relieved when he died, because he feared that, if interrogated, he could give some sensible info about business Libya ran with France.

At the end, even if he softened his words on his last decade ate the helm of Libya, Gaddafi was a declared anti-zionist and one of the focus of resistance against NWO, and its not plausible that it was only the biggest cover story that we ever saw.


message 7: by James, Group Founder (last edited Feb 13, 2016 07:41PM) (new)

James Morcan | 11246 comments Well if we look at the West's or Global Elite's interests in Saddam and Osama (and extensive financing and assistance to both especially early on), it seems like the elite need to have enemies or perceived enemies to create wars or at least to create enough fear to finance their Military Industrial Complex etc.

Would be interested to read your book one day as I also strongly suspect most of the terrorism blamed on Gaddafi was not done by him but rather false flag activity.

And keen to see what others in this group suspect or believe about Gaddafi's death.


message 8: by Thiago (last edited Feb 14, 2016 04:38AM) (new)

Thiago S. (thiagos) I think we follow a wrong path if we put Gaddafi on the "same basket" as Osama and Saddam. The last two were CIA assets, valuable allies and in a certain moment of history became unconvenient or dismissable. BTW when you read my book you'll see that Gaddafi didnt support Hussein in the first Gulf War and his relationship with Al Qaeda was very far from being a healthy one.

Gaddafi, in the western point of view, was more like his friend Hugo Chávez: the two were charismatic flamboyant leaders, with dangerous ideas about independence and "socialism" that unfortunately happened to sit on the top of a tasty oil reserve so they had to be treated carefully until the time was right to get rid of them. And yes, I believe that Chávez aggressive cancer may have been triggered by a kind of advanced biological weapon.


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James Morcan | 11246 comments TARGET LIBYA http://www.deepblacklies.co.uk/target...
Behind the politics & dirty tricks that demonised Libya's Colonel Qaddafi


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